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Mitsche91
Hired Hero
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posted July 02, 2023 07:36 PM |
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So another small update with screenshots from HotA team at the championship. It seems that there have been some changes in design of Factory‘s castle as well as some other hints.
https://forum.df2.ru/index.php?s=9dc91f03be00c316403bf8a75eadcc11&showtopic=37363&st=3940
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted July 02, 2023 08:11 PM |
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LordInsane
Known Hero
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posted July 02, 2023 09:52 PM |
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Looks like at least one of Factory's heroes will be a dark elf (Wynona, for those not familiar with MM8). Explicit confirmation there won't be any new neutral creatures, too, which I actually hadn't seen stated before.
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Hourglass
Supreme Hero
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posted July 02, 2023 10:15 PM |
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Okay, let's start breaking down what information we can draw from those screenshots and from posts:
! 1.7 patch will introduce no new artifacts, banks or neutral creatures. (info given by lazy person)
Screenshot 1)
- It appears we can see the final(?) version of the Factory Castle(?)
- Agar's picture has been updated, for the better if you ask me. No more mister nice guy.
Screenshot 2)
- The small picture we have seen couple of years ago appears to be Victoria, hero with Basic Wisdom + Basic Learning. Specializes in Land mine. Intresting! (well, nto the learning part, if it's the same old one.  )
- The standard Factory army seems to be 10-20 Halflings, 4-6 Mechanics and 3-5 Armadillos.
- According to this, the Artificer starting statline seems to 0 1 2 2 (same as Witches) This has been changed along the way, as it was 0 0 1 3 originally.
Screenshot 3)
- New type of tree decoration seems to be introduced.
- A new building can be seen in the down right corner. As there is no flag, this building isn't a dwelling. Wonder what it's going to do?
Screenshot 4)
- New hero Wynona can be seen. Interestingly, this hero is pictured with very specific kind of creatures, I wonder if this is actually a normal roster hero, or someone we can meet in the campaign.
- Some new button has been introduced next the select hero image. A "cave button" of some sort. In this picture it's active, but in other pictures where UI can be seen, it doesn't seem to be clickable. So, it's safe to assume that some criteria has to be met before it's toggled on, so we're most likely talking about some kind of new feature altogether.
Screenshot 5 (battle)
- A very action packed, completely staged battle screen. Weird explosions seems to happening near the minotars and Ogres. We can also see the final version with Engineer, and we can also see the repairing taking place.
Screenshot 6 (Cove siege)
- Nothing new here I assume?
Screenshot 7
- If I'm not horribly wrong, the final version from the Mechanic dwelling can be seen in picture.
Screenshot 8 (Factory siege)
- Factory siege in action. Not sure if they're just pure decoration, but some sort of paths can be seen inside the castle.
Btw, this siege screen was one thing that was not completed for a while ago, great to see it's also been finished now.
Screenshot 9)
- Upgraded small prison can be seen, also a new type of bridge decoration in the left.
Screenshot 10)
- Well, we already knew Sam was going to be Mechanic specialist.
- Just like with the Agar picture in the first screenshot, it appear the starting stats for Mercenaries would 3 1 1 1. Another change they have apparently done, since it was 2 1 1 2 originally.
- Slightly changed Wrathmont hero potrait.
Screenshot 11)
- Engineers are guarding some sort of new building, I think it's either for the Automatons, or for the Dreadnoughts?
- At down left corner there's another tower-like dwelling(?). Seems kinda oddball if you ask me. Could this be for the Automatons, since we know nothing about them yet?
- Another building, some sort of military tent can be seen in be seen down in the picture. At first sight it would appear to have grey flag on top of it indicating it could controlled by the player, but on second time looking at it, I think the flag is just decoration, and it's unclear what this object really does.
- Final version of the Halfling dwelling can be seen guarded by the Sea men.
Screenshot 12)
- The strange building from the picture 4 can be seen in very top right corner. Other than that, in case there aren't any new pieces of decoration, it seems there's nothing we haven't covered yet.
Screenshot 13)
- Since there will be no new neutrals, have they just refreshed the the Arch magi's map image? Or is this another upgrade for Magi? Tower getting Cove treatment?! 
Screenshot 14)
- Map image for Bellwether Armadillo can be seen.
Screenshot 15)
- Well, I don't see anything. Seems to be some sort of test, Henrietta is having nearly 1000 mana.
Screenshot 16)
- A teaser for the Factory town screen.
- Some upgraded images for Halflings and Armadillo
- Most interestingly thou, this town has income of 1500, which is not something you can acquire with traditional towns. This would indicate that Factory has some sort of building that is giving them more money.
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pellish
Famous Hero
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posted July 03, 2023 12:11 AM |
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Hourglass said:
Screenshot 9)
- Upgraded small prison can be seen, also a new type of bridge decoration in the left.
Also all of the mountains are new. Which is pretty cool.
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HornOfTheBison
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2023 03:38 AM |
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I have a VERY crazy theory that they will make a bonus campaign with the original Forge. First, look at this screen:
https://i.imgur.com/b5LUFHw.png
We see a new terrain which at first glance might look like a lava. But it has a different mountains and a normal river instead of a lava. The four units on the screen are also from the original Forge from the NWC. And the three artifacts on the screen were used for making the Armageddon's Blade in the original campaign. Coincidence? I think not.
https://i.imgur.com/LEnY6VK.png
The second screen also has all units from the original Forge and the Overlord hero from the E3 promo screen. So I'm guessing there will be at least one bonus campaign about the Forge. Maybe Forge avaible in the campaign only seems unbelievably, but don_ko tried making this city in the past. So maybe he will use his old materials as a small bonus for the Might and Magic fans? Who knows...
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HornOfTheBison
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2023 04:13 AM |
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My second theory is that the new terrain is just a Shadowspire and they inserted all the Forge units just of out of their stupidity (Hey, look, our wild west mumbo jumbo is the spiritual successor of the Forge!).
In that case, the screenshots were supposed to show us which parts of Jadame we'll see in the campaign:
https://i.imgur.com/cJHhS4J.png
https://i.imgur.com/szCormU.png
https://i.imgur.com/g03gqol.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XiyRCPf.png
https://i.imgur.com/wxKGEGK.png
https://i.imgur.com/DPpwKsv.png
Quote:
- Factory siege in action.
And a 6-level unit as a wall shooter. Crazy.
Any idea what is this thing at the top of the castle? It looks like a cable organizer in the Ikea desk:
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted July 03, 2023 07:09 AM |
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Details in your screens are hardly visible, can you please make them bigger? A bison size would be appreciated.
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HornOfTheBison
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2023 07:37 AM |
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Yes, the images aren't scalling on this forum and the URL tag don't work. I edited my post and sorry for broking the size of the thread.
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czilera
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2023 08:07 AM |
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Quote:
- Factory siege in action.
And a 6-level unit as a wall shooter. Crazy.
Any idea what is this thing at the top of the castle? It looks like a cable organizer in the Ikea desk:
it is like a mud / sand river, just a decoration which is for some reason not used in popular HotA templates.
I am very happy we had opportunity to present these screens
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HornOfTheBison
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 03, 2023 08:18 AM |
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I meant this weird disk-like roof of the castle.
And I think that this sand river look like a path on the first glance. If the wastelands has a light blue lakes, why it doesn't also has a light blue river?
Quote:
Not sure if they're just pure decoration, but some sort of paths can be seen inside the castle.
Same paths were int the old promo screens from RoE:
Maybe they will add them again to the original castles?
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pekute99
Known Hero
The prettiest I must say
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posted July 03, 2023 02:57 PM |
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A bunch of new photos just got out and they still haven't showed us the Automaton. I wonder what's so special about this creature that keeps them from hiding us for too long ?
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MurlocAggroB
Hired Hero
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posted July 03, 2023 05:19 PM |
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I've noticed that the Steel Golem is in a lot of these screen shots, including part of the castle siege. I wonder if Steel Golem is going to become Factory's tier 4 creature and Automaton is just the name of its upgrade.
I also agree that it's really interesting that so many creatures associated with Forge show up in these screenshots. I don't know if it's just the team being cute or if they're remaking the original AB campaign but with Factory creatures. I highly doubt we're getting a whole surprise second town, but getting neutral Cyber Zombies or something would be cool.
EDIT: Also, I'm very happy to see non-volcanic mountains for lava terrain. Heroes 4 has a similar set, and it looks so much better for making terrain that's meant to be scorched rather than an active volcano.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted July 03, 2023 06:44 PM |
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Victoria seems like a really terrible hero, unless they have buffed Learning and/or Land Mine.
Like Fire Wall AI is also not able to cast Land Mine, unless they changed that.
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Kilkakon
Hired Hero
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posted July 03, 2023 07:23 PM |
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Thanks to the team for the updates! I will admit I had fallen in love with the previously revealed castle design for the factory, it was a really cool art style which I will miss. I imagine it was inevitable when the cannon unfurling animation concept proved no longer feasible.
The new one does look more industrious to be fair, and reminds me a little of Battersea Power Station, just with a hotplate on top. The other graphics do look very nice, the red trees are especially lovely.
I did call a Land Mine specialist, although I was hoping they would have done more with Victoria like being able to place the mines manually or having more of them, but I guess we can't win them all, and if there are any spicy ones that they're keeping them secret for us. Nice art though.
Thanks again team, all the hard work is paying off 
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Hourglass
Supreme Hero
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posted July 03, 2023 07:37 PM |
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pekute99 said:
A bunch of new photos just got out and they still haven't showed us the Automaton. I wonder what's so special about this creature that keeps them from hiding us for too long ?
I think there are a bunch of reasons to be honest. First of all, they're clearly wanting to leave many surprises for the end. Secondly, if I'm not mistaken, the Auromaton will play some sort of bigger role in the town, and some other features are bound to that creature. And lastly, it is a creature that was made by Docent Picolan himself, I've read that he was just able to finish it before he past away.
phoenix4ever said:
Victoria seems like a really terrible hero, unless they have buffed Learning and/or Land Mine.
Like Fire Wall AI is also not able to cast Land Mine, unless they changed that.
Agreed, if everything is going to stay the same. When presented like this, the only thing Victoria is really providing is an occasional, singular battle where you're trying to hopelessly get value out of mines. Also, similarly to Zilare and his Forgetfulness, this is adding another spell for Scholars to teach, making the spell slightly less rare, and thus someone might consider using it, due it being more accessible in the early game.
Personally, I think adding a Land mine specialist is a great idea, I remember suggesting it myself. Sadly, the Learning just completely blows the air out of this hero. However, I'm really really hoping that this time, Phoenix, we're finally seeing an upgraded version from Learning. Note that they did not give either Learning or Eagle Eye for Cove heroes, so as we're seeing one of them on a Factory hero, I don't think it's too wild assumption, that this time, something is different. Fingers crossed.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted July 03, 2023 07:41 PM |
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Well HotA can do what they want, I already buffed both Learning and Land Mine myself, so she would'nt be THAT terrible, in my version of the game. Still I think AI should be able to use the special too, same with Luna.
Zilare I never understood, make Forgetfulness last 60 turns, instead of 30, like what is the point? Only thing about him is that he starts with Forgetfulness, which is somewhat unique.
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culgil
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 03, 2023 10:42 PM |
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Great new screenshots! New castle design looks good!
Hourglass said:
Screenshot 4)
- Some new button has been introduced next the select hero image. A "cave button" of some sort. In this picture it's active, but in other pictures where UI can be seen, it doesn't seem to be clickable. So, it's safe to assume that some criteria has to be met before it's toggled on, so we're most likely talking about some kind of new feature altogether.
This seems to be a button dedicated to revisit a map location (while still standing on it), which so far was only accessible via space bar. That would explain why it is always greyed out, except on screenshot 4.
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MurlocAggroB
Hired Hero
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posted July 03, 2023 10:54 PM |
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Even if Victoria is terrible, I'm perfectly okay with Factory having a dud hero. Most other towns have really bad heroes that you would never pick and only exist to take up space in the tavern, and I think that's a good thing. I used to play a lot of Hearthstone, and one of the reasons I stopped playing is they don't print very many trash cards anymore. That sounds weird, but it's almost like a balancing mechanism when lowrolls exist. It keeps random stuff from being competitively consistent. Bad tavern rolls are similar, so you can't get good heroes all the time every game.
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HornOfTheBison
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 04, 2023 07:19 AM |
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I looked at that explosion on the battlefield and my imagination went wild. I recalled the old fanart made by don_ko for the first concept of the Factory:
Is automaton really a steampunk motorcycle? I doubt. But I still see the similarity.
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