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posted July 03, 2020 03:11 AM |
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posted July 03, 2020 08:25 AM |
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Blizzardboy said: That's the problem. Too many civil liberties
My friend once said the more liberties you give to people the more crazy they get. But that's probably a no-no.
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posted July 03, 2020 04:44 PM |
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Not sure whether the students in Alabama have too many civil liberties, but they certainly are getting crazier.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted July 03, 2020 04:49 PM |
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A lot of college kids are total morons in this country.
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posted July 03, 2020 04:52 PM |
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Restaurants and indoor parties are like a petri dish for COVID.
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posted July 03, 2020 05:04 PM |
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Blizzardboy said: Restaurants and indoor parties are like a petri dish for COVID.
*inserts "your momma" joke*
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posted July 03, 2020 07:46 PM |
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JollyJoker said: Not sure whether the students in Alabama have too many civil liberties, but they certainly are getting crazier.
Wait a second... so in America if you're COVID-positive they won't immidiately force you to go to quarantine (like home arrest)? I belive you can get a big fine if you break the quarantine...
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Blizzardboy
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posted July 03, 2020 07:52 PM |
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@blob2
In theory they can get in trouble, but I don't think it is being widely enforced for residences. The local and state orders are mostly concentrated on businesses, but many of those are slipping through the cracks as well.
People just don't give much of a ****. To be frank I consider myself part of that category despite my brain telling me I should behave, although if I did test positive in the future I would of course self-quarantine.
Culturally and politically, USA is not well-adapted for a pandemic.
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posted July 03, 2020 08:09 PM |
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If i were to test positive for any potentially life-killing illness, my plan is to quarantine myself on top of a mountain far away from people. Not a bad place to go, in case you do.
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Salamandre
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posted July 03, 2020 08:13 PM |
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Covid is not life threatening, I had it and was barely a scratch. But it can become if you present other symptoms, however that's the case with hundreds of illnesses. Don't be obese, train regularly, don't smoke or take drugs, then you are fine against most of bad things circulating out there.
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posted July 03, 2020 08:42 PM |
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Yes. And don't get old. And don't be born with a genetic defect. And don't get caught while you are ill with something. And don't come near anyone vulnerable, because you may kill them.
Oh, and don't be an a$$hole.
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Salamandre
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posted July 03, 2020 08:52 PM |
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Thanks for extending my list with your first hand experiences and sorry to hear about.
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Oh, and don't be an a$$hole.
Now that explains how you got your TDS, it had to enter by somewhere enough large.
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posted July 03, 2020 09:28 PM |
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Doctor Salamandre's "list" of simple rules to survive covid and most everything else ... just be done with it. You are a good Trump disciple, I'll give you that.
And I got my TDS the same way I got my SDS - by using common sense, something that seems to elude you.
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Blizzardboy
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posted July 04, 2020 12:36 AM |
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fred79 said: You know, this thread started out as a pretty good read 6 years ago. I like reading from the beginning and seeing where my mind was back then. It's like a journal of sorts. One thing i got right back then, was my prediction that things would get so much worse during this presidency. Another being that our country's image went further into the toilet than when bush jr. was president.
Although, the reasons for both are certainly different.
And me making the same prediction as before, about how much worse than before the next 4 years are going to be, will certainly ring true again.
Face it, i'm a Seer.
I glanced over this post. Problems are problems. They're not insurmountable. When a country faces polarization there are promising ways of handling it.
https://carnegieendowment.org/2019/10/01/how-to-understand-global-spread-of-political-polarization-pub-79893
A lot of research shows how populist and illiberal leaders are putting democracy in danger. But it rarely addresses what we feel is a more fundamental, underlying problem: severe political polarization.
Polarization is tearing at the seams of democracies around the world, from Brazil and India to Poland and Turkey. It isn’t just an American illness; it’s a global one.
We wanted to know: Why has polarization come to a boil in so many places in recent years? Are there any telling similarities in the patterns of polarization across different countries? And perhaps most importantly, once societies have become deeply polarized, what can they do to start healing their divisions?
We focused on nine diverse countries grappling with the problem: Bangladesh, Brazil, Colombia, India, Indonesia, Kenya, Poland, Turkey, and the United States. We assembled a group of scholars with deep local expertise on these countries, and they produced in-depth case studies...
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...several promising efforts to limit polarization have focused on institutional reforms, such as decentralizing political power or changing electoral rules. Kenya, for instance, adopted a new constitution in 2010 that sought to ease ferocious competition for national office by giving regional officials greater autonomy and control over state resources. But important reforms don’t always require changing a country’s constitution: in the United States, for example, Maine passed legislation in 2016 to enact ranked-choice voting, a system that favors centrist candidates and discourages negative campaigning.
Other efforts have involved legal or judicial action to limit polarization and majoritarianism—the idea that the feelings and rights of the minority should not constrain leaders with majority support. In India, for example, the Supreme Court has spoken out in defense of democratic institutions and demanded greater accountability for hate crimes and political violence.
Political leadership can also play a crucial role in de-escalating partisan divides. In Ecuador, President Lenín Moreno has rejected the polarizing tactics of his predecessor, even though the two come from the same political party. And in Turkey, opposition parties have achieved modest success by uniting to form a coalition: their candidate for mayor of Istanbul won a resounding victory in 2019 with a campaign that emphasized overcoming divisions.
Still, these initiatives are small compared to the larger forces driving polarization. Democracies will need to rise to this challenge in new and determined ways if they are to swim successfully against the swelling global current of polarization.
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posted July 04, 2020 12:42 AM |
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As far as the USA goes: our aristocratic voting system that was created when dragons roamed the Earth encourages polarization and it's hard to change that, but it can happen more easily on a state-level. Also *knock on wood* I still think there's good reason to believe that Trump is a uniquely divisive president and it's unlikely we'll get another one on his level anytime in the near future.
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posted July 04, 2020 02:09 AM |
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Don't be naive, Blizzard. The dividends is only going to get worse from here on out. Unless it is a landslide, both candidates will claim cheating and create major unrest.
And the media outlets will laugh all the way to the bank.
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posted July 04, 2020 03:03 AM |
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OmegaDestroyer said: And the media outlets will laugh all the way to Hell.
Ftfy.
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JollyJoker
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posted July 04, 2020 10:13 AM |
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posted July 04, 2020 10:54 AM |
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It has been absolutely devastating towards the elder, and the people with health problems background. So while it is true a majority of people catching it won't die from it and even won't even get any symptoms, it still has been a sufficient threat to basically shut down the economy worldwide for a few months... I do not find it smart to minimize it, it is a pandemic after all.
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posted July 04, 2020 11:32 AM |
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First, they didn't shut economy because it was such big threat, but because they were not prepared - remember that for 3 months we couldn't find a single mask, nor medicinal alcohol in stores. If a fire declares in your basement but during constructions you ignored both installing a water supply and a phone, all you can do is run away, that doesn't mean people should always run away and leave properties burn to the ground once a fire is declared, right?
But wait and see how it will economically backfire, and it will at such proportions that people will realize how lethal the decision of locking everyone was.
Secondly, I don't minimize but recall rather basic things: stay healthy if you want to go through most bad things. Is that easy, I don't think so. Training regularly, eating properly and staying at the right body index, is quite a luxury for nowadays people, they want to eat junk, smoke weed and lay on the couch playing games. From times to times, is good to recall basic principles instead of pushing doom narratives.
How you live is your responsibility.
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