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Avonu
Avonu


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Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted March 28, 2015 12:58 PM
Edited by Avonu at 13:10, 28 Mar 2015.

alcibiades said:
Go ahaid, I know you want to!




My presumtions:

Basic skill has 3 abilities to choose

Advance skill has 2 abilities to choose

Expert skill has 1 ability to choose

Each class has 3 main skills: Chieftan has Bloodrage (Orc racial skill), Diplomacy and one more. Each of main skills has also Ultimate ability (the larger one at the center) - it's Father Sky's Fury for Bloodrage

You not only pick up abilities, you probably need also upgrade skills (level 2 and 3) to unlock new abilities and have to buy new skills (level 1 to unlock new skill tree and its basic abilities).


However this is only my theory based on this screenshot and some Q&A about how skill system will work in Heroes 7.


EDIT:
alcibiades said:
Problem is we don't see any skills where there is more than one unlit level - and hence we don't know whether interface will show all available levels as unlit when not picked (which would be logical, but then again, you never know ...), or only will show the next unlearned level as unlit.

There is nice button called "Show all" in the righr corner, as Elvin already said


alcibiades said:
On a similar note: In the screenshot, we see that this class has access to 10 skills: 3 at expert level, 3 at advanced level, 4 at basic level. Are these the only skills this class has access to? If that's the case, we have a total of 3x6 + 3x4 + 4x2 = 38 skills and abilities, plus possibly some ultimate ability - still, we are in the vicinity of 40 skill options, which means your hero build will always be 75 % identical within the same class, once (if) you reach level 30. Can this really be true? If this is so, it's extremely lame, and a critical issue that needs to be addressed!

10 x 3 basic abilities + 10 x 2 advanced abilities + 10 x 1 expert abilities = 60 abilities in total + 3 ultimates per class.
That's if all skills has expert level per class.

ANd yes, my main problem is what you pointed - this is the same boring system as in H6, when you nearly always choose the same skills and ablities per hero class. This will kill replayablity and make horo progress boring.
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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
posted March 28, 2015 01:10 PM

Stevie said:
The leaking is real


You thought it wasn't? ^_^
For gamers I think it's huge leak. Just looking at the table of contents: it has Witcher 3 (titlestory), AC: Rogue, Minecraft, Dungeons 2 etc.
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Ubi-Nox
Ubi-Nox

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M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
posted March 28, 2015 01:12 PM
Edited by Ubi-Nox at 13:16, 28 Mar 2015.

Hello guys,
Well it seems that some screenshots from a particular game were published a bit in advance

Unfortunately, you will have to wait until the beginning of the week for better quality pictures and details about them

We are not able to comment at the moment but all information will be available on the website very soon!

Until now, we will wait in the shadows and observe.


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ThatRedSarah
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Adventuring Hero
posted March 28, 2015 01:14 PM

I really like the Stronghold townscreen! After the first three i wasnt expecting much, but this is pretty nice.

But where do the behemoths live? :/

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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted March 28, 2015 01:17 PM

ThatRedSarah said:
I really like the Stronghold townscreen! After the first three i wasnt expecting much, but this is pretty nice.

But where do the behemoths live? :/

I agree. This is the best one yet.
Since this is a Stronghold Village, I doubt the Behemoth dwelling is built yet.
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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
posted March 28, 2015 01:19 PM

I must say that it looks like it has some civilian buildings (tents). And it's so multi-colored... yeah, the best one so far.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted March 28, 2015 01:21 PM

I wonder if this is original town screen (created when Haven, Academy and NecroArachnopolis screens were created) or was created after fans "feeedback"?

However, UI looks ugly on town screen - bar with heroes and their armies eclipses town screen itself. In H1-4 UI was under town screen itself, not on it and there was not such a problem.
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Kronos1000
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posted March 28, 2015 01:25 PM
Edited by Kronos1000 at 13:25, 28 Mar 2015.

The Stronghold townscreen is pretty nice indeed! It seems to be at a different angle than the others, which is something.

@Avonu: Are you sure all 6 abilities for one particular skill are available? Explorer lists its mastery at level 2, but there are no abilities, same with Defence. This would imply that this hero class cannot select any abilities beyond level 2 for those particular skills.
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ThatRedSarah
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posted March 28, 2015 01:26 PM

War-overlord said:
I agree. This is the best one yet.
Since this is a Stronghold Village, I doubt the Behemoth dwelling is built yet.


Oh you might be right! So maybe we get even more buildings in the townscreen... this is pretty exciting. I cant wait

I if recall correctly, Stronghold was your favorite faction so what do you think of the line-up in general? I think it seems nice

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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted March 28, 2015 01:27 PM
Edited by Avonu at 13:28, 28 Mar 2015.

Kronos1000 said:
Are you sure all 6 abilities for one particular skill are available? Explorer lists its mastery at level 2, but there are no abilities, same with Defence. This would imply that this hero class cannot select any abilities beyond level 2 for those particular skills.

I am not sure but:
Explorer is still level 1 - see its number 2 - it isn't red (highlighted) as Warfare on left of it.
Defense - as above
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properkheldar
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posted March 28, 2015 01:32 PM

The behemot dwelling is probably the cave in the middle, with the blue "shine", like in H3.
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Kronos1000
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Frysln Boppe
posted March 28, 2015 01:34 PM

Avonu said:
I am not sure but:
Explorer is still level 1 - see its number 2 - it isn't red (highlighted) as Warfare on left of it.
Defense - as above


I see what you mean, but when looking at Air Magic, the indicator is completely dark. This could also mean that level 2 Air Magic is unavailable. Anyway, we won't know for certain until we receive the official explanation.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted March 28, 2015 01:37 PM

ThatRedSarah said:
I if recall correctly, Stronghold was your favorite faction so what do you think of the line-up in general? I think it seems nice

It is my favorite.
So far, the units ain't half bad. Despite the pic quality which is.
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Articun
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As i dream, so shall it be!
posted March 28, 2015 01:39 PM



There are Towns and villages in Ashan not build on cliffs??????


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Avonu
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posted March 28, 2015 01:39 PM
Edited by Avonu at 13:40, 28 Mar 2015.

Kronos1000 said:
I see what you mean, but when looking at Air Magic, the indicator is completely dark. This could also mean that level 2 Air Magic is unavailable. Anyway, we won't know for certain until we receive the official explanation.


Yes, indeed.
But on the other hand, how often we couldn't choose something in campaign bacause developers didn't want us to do that (Yog's campaign in H3:SoD for example).
Can someone post a screenshot with "Show all" button marked?
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Articun
Articun


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As i dream, so shall it be!
posted March 28, 2015 01:41 PM

So...

Core:
Gnoll
Goblin riding basilisk (or lizard)
Brute

Elite
Centaur
there was mention of Wyvern though i didn;t see it
???

Champion
Behemoth
Cyclops

War Machine
Enraged or deformed Cyclops
????
????

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ThatRedSarah
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posted March 28, 2015 01:42 PM
Edited by ThatRedSarah at 13:45, 28 Mar 2015.

properkheldar said:
The behemot dwelling is probably the cave in the middle, with the blue "shine", like in H3.


Hmm that did cross my mind too, but it seems a bit too small... I doubt they could fit in there and live comfortably... Maybe its a window

War-overlord said:
It is my favorite.
So far, the units ain't half bad. Despite the pic quality which is.


That is good to hear and yeah it will be a really long couple of days until next week, while waiting for the proper pictures and info.

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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
posted March 28, 2015 01:43 PM

Goblin riding a lizard is in elite, for core we have Harpies with Dervish faces.
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Articun
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posted March 28, 2015 01:45 PM

Sandro400 said:
Goblin riding a lizard is in elite, for core we have Harpies with Dervish faces.


I did not see the Harpies then!
Though i'd much prefer harpies to get a rank up to elite than having some goblin to elite! :/

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Dave_Jame
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posted March 28, 2015 01:48 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:49, 28 Mar 2015.

Sandro400 said:
Goblin riding a lizard is in elite, for core we have Harpies with Dervish faces.

Or the goblin is the one large core and the Brute is an Elite? But most likely not, so my line-up prediction was rather accurat.

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