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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 05, 2015 09:40 PM |
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You guys know all coments everywhere are 100% subjective, right?
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 05, 2015 09:55 PM |
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Edited by EnergyZ at 21:58, 05 Aug 2015.
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kiryu133 said:
You guys know all coments everywhere are 100% subjective, right?
I wouldn't say they all are, for some are official announcements. Just see some posts from Ubi-Nox.
Just saying that because it is subjective does not necessarily reduce its importance. Well, mostly, since there are some that don't bring anything interesting or aren't on-topic.
Just claiming here that we shouldn't be so dismissive of others, like some do. What I just did was to take it back, for some actually claim they won't listen because it is entirely subjective and to "their" opinion.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 05, 2015 09:55 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
I'm a bit surprised that no one recorded dungeon duel and leaked it by now 
Not really, wasnt the Sylvan leak because a semidecent page accidently uploaded the video before the proper date after all?
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted August 05, 2015 10:04 PM |
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I mean, there are people playing duels with dungeon at the Gamescom. I'm just surprised that no one recorded his play with cellphone or camera and put it on YouTube. Its fairly common thing.
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@EnergyZ
I actually agree. I can appreciate some well thought opinion that is not in line with mine. What I can't stand is constant claiming that something "sux", is broken or ruining the game and overreacting every time new blog post arrives. Same group of people always find something to complain so I just skip those posts.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted August 05, 2015 10:10 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
I mean, there are people playing duels with dungeon at the Gamescom. I'm just surprised that no one recorded his play with cellphone or camera and put it on YouTube. Its fairly common thing.
How many videos did we get from E3 and Sylvan.. One? I havn't seen more.
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Elvin 
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 05, 2015 10:40 PM |
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Raenus said:
I may be wrong but I am afraid that they are putting way too much stock in multiplayer and balance and sacrificing gameplay to do so. Just my two cents.
I can see why you might think so but all things considered I do not agree. Chat? Eternally bugged. Connectivity issues? Plenty. Dynasty weapons? Bad for a competitive environment. Sim turns? Never was a priority. Balance? Poor. General Stability? Who is him??
If H6 was aimed at multiplayer it would(or should?) have prioritized the above instead of a uniform skill system and boring hero specials.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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icefield
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 05, 2015 10:52 PM |
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I rather got the impression that Heroes 6 was aimed at multiplayer (comparing with H5), but it became a big failure of project management, plain and simple. For single-player, there was a campaign but obvious deficiencies in strategic depth and content.
Single and multi/online players have so different priorities nowadays that it would be a miracle if both groups can be satisfied by a single game.
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 05, 2015 11:00 PM |
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Edited by Hex at 23:07, 05 Aug 2015.
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While waiting for Dungeon reveal:
If only Dragon looks in the game like this Malassa statue it wouldn't be bad at all.
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted August 05, 2015 11:16 PM |
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Yea...minus the butterfly wings, h6 dragon head/overall design, and that purple glow that is strangely coming from within it....then the dragon wouldn't be THAT bad 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 05, 2015 11:19 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 23:19, 05 Aug 2015.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted August 05, 2015 11:27 PM |
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Stevie said:
Just from what I can see in the background, that townscreen looks fairly good.
My exact thoughts.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 05, 2015 11:37 PM |
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Stevie said:
Just from what I can see in the background, that townscreen looks fairly good.
the purple glitter-party?
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 05, 2015 11:39 PM |
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I think likewise, it seems the two voted factions will feature the best Townscreens (they won't be flawless, but that can't be helped).
We need to see the full TS to judge it well tho
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted August 06, 2015 12:16 AM |
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Edited by Zeki at 00:21, 06 Aug 2015.
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My report:
Unit's outward appearence:
I would call it solid. There are some good and some bad things, but that's highly subjective of course.
What i liked were the medusas, look just as they should and don't remind me of nagas as the lore suggests, which i approve of.
The Strider has a very interesting design. First of, it doesn't have anything to do with insectoids for anyyone fearing that. But on the other side it is a kinda twisted creatures which might have come from a japanese horror movie xD. The Striders/Soulless are humanoid like and wear the faceless' masks and have very long and twisted extremities. While i do think that they fit dungeon they don't really seem like elite creatures but quite fragile actually. Furthermore i think they might interfere with Necropolis' nightmarish theme that the city of undead (should) have.
The two elven units look very much alike, at first i thought one was the upgrade of the other untill i remembered the actual lineup^^. I hope somebody switches the shooting elf with a beholder per mod if possible.
Troglodytes don't look very much like in h3. They seem more beast like and have only grey color. I don't like that, it's too bland.
Minotaurs were allright i think. They are less bulky than in h5, dunno how they looked in h6 lol.
The hydra looks good, too. Still colouring is very grey-heavy. I don't like that as it's very boring. Almost the same color as the bricks on the battlefield.
Blackies..hmm. I actually like the wings, they atleast have some color and have an interesting design. But the rest of the dragon is waay too small in comparison to the wings so they really resemble a butterfly a little bit.
Skills:
I'm sorry but i don't remember that much. What i know is as following:
Shades can poison and deal damage as high as the stack's numbers. Each round the damage increases by the amount of this same stack. It is not clear, wether or not the actual size of the stack in each seperate round is meant or the stack's size when the effect was triggered. As already voiced by other members the descriptions in this game are vagualely and strangely worded, on english and german(btw german translated names sound sooo stupid, i'll never play heroes in german xD).
Troglodyte's are immune to earth damage i think(or only higher resistance?). They are also blind so for example the spell "blind" would have no effect on them. I am sad to say that i didn't notice them having a burrowing movement, one can only hope that it wasn't implemented yet in this build (or i am blind just like them^^).
Strider and Soulless are of course constructs. The Soulless also has an effect where itself and allied units around it become immune to light spells and ,on the other side, neighbouring hostile creatures are more vulnerable to darkness spells.
Medusas can mesmerize (i think that's what it was called) rendering affected units turnless untill they are attacked or after the effect wears off (forgot after how many turns, but not many). This effect is triggered by a lucky hit. Furthermore they are mobile shooters so they can move before or after attacking (might me upgrade only).
Black dragons are immune to spells and their attack also deals some kind of damage in the next round(s) (sorry, don't remember exactly). Also their attack hits a very wide area; like 5x3 area or something like this. was nowhere described.
Resume
All in all dungeon's allright. Could be better but also worse. I liked the medusa very much^^ Black dragons are more of an aoe damage dealer now which i personally like but they are not tanky enough. Black dragons need to be very tough for me but they die more ore less like flies actually. A stack of ~80 Ork meele guys (forgot their name ) could kill three blackies. By the way i could easily crush sylvan and stronghold but necro destroyed me very badly. I don't know wether this might be this "one faction's better against another" or it was simply because the necro fight was the first and i did rather poorly.
General Heroes stuff
The game was still kinda buggy which worries me as release comes nearer and nearer.
The units are way better recognisable in-game than on the screenies. Dunno wether it was the duell maps that don't have so much eye candy around the battlefield or they actually tweaked unit's sizes n stuff.
Battles really do feel a bit ... soulles? It's just that the lack of many special abilities makes units feel interchangable/missing in personality.
I wasn't at this presention with devs. i missed it. Dunno wether anything usefull was said there or not. I only was at another presentation at the nvidia booth (which began 15-20 minutes later than sheduled because Erwan wouldn't get his butt over to the other hall xD had more important buddhist spider god duties. On the other side the anno guy was also late so it meght just be general ubi problem xD) by the way when i wanted to play the pc showed a warning that windows needed to be activated xD you see, ubisoft cares very much for their side-brands 
I think that's all for now. If i remember anything else when i'm not exhausted and tired anymore tomorrow i'll post it
Edit
yes, i also like sylvan'stown screens the most. Btw at this nvidia thing they very briefly showed dungeon's town screen. It's in a cave and very purple but still nice (and purple). Just what you would expect from 50 shades of purple dungeon. Still better than the gray creatures in the lineup though
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 12:17 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
Stevie said:
Just from what I can see in the background, that townscreen looks fairly good.
the purple glitter-party?
there is also green and something like lava on front.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted August 06, 2015 12:23 AM |
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Hex said:
While waiting for Dungeon reveal:
If only Dragon looks in the game like this Malassa statue it wouldn't be bad at all.
yes, the body-wing ratio of the statue is great^^
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 12:31 AM |
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How does the Medusa look?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 06, 2015 12:34 AM |
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Thank you for the report, Zeki 
It's more or less what I expected. In the line of the game.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted August 06, 2015 12:37 AM |
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They reminded me alot of the h3 medusa but a little thinner i guess and they are using a staff as weapon. The hair/snakes had more diverse colors than h3 though. Can't really tell you more as i didn't really zoom in much and i also didn't know how to rotate the map
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 06, 2015 12:40 AM |
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its ok darling. I assume they were green or bronze.
I actually wished they were purpleish, like Himiko's portrait but an H3 shout-out is nice too.
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