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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted September 16, 2014 08:41 PM |
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Stevie said: The bewilderment after realizing people are talking about the art like it's the game itself. I'm not even sure if some people even saw that the post has words in it.
Which is the reason why most game developers won't approach any community board or forum. The loss of Sanity Points would be too high. I can testify to that...
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 16, 2014 08:45 PM |
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Which once more reminds me of this famous quote:
Ben Crosshaw aka Yahtzee said: Maybe if the original creators of something don't want to continue it then you should listen to them, because otherwise you're only making it to please the fans. And why would you want to do anything for fans? I mean, I'm a Silent Hill fan and I've just spent the whole review whining like a broken motor. Fans are clingy, complaining d1psh1ts who will never ever be grateful for any concession you make. The moment you shut out their shrill, tremulous voices, the happier you'll be for it.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted September 16, 2014 08:47 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 20:49, 16 Sep 2014.
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VOKIALBG said:
No, no, no the ultimate line-up is Unicorn and Phoenix in one line-up. No knights and stags and etc...
good luck than.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted September 16, 2014 08:52 PM |
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Quick and short.
Pixie - great
Dryad - ok
Stags - awesome
Dragons - meh... Even I, who actually likes Ashan, think that GD can be done better. I support the idea of walking Earth dragons, I just don't like Sylanna's art. There's, however, one cool Earth dragon art on Compendium.
Emerald Knigths - female is just gorgeous.
Root snakes - perfect.
Overall, Ubi, good work.
Now, as a huge Dwarf fan, I just beg for Dwarf line-up. Something like consolation prize. Please.
And if you do (I hope), look how many people will say WE WANT THEM, THEY ARE BETTER THAN TINY ELVES!!!
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Arugaf
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 08:54 PM |
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Marzhin said: I'm pretty positive the Dwarven theme will definitely be used somewhere in the game, even if the Fortress faction itself isn't there.
Thank you! It's good to hear for my dwarven heart.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted September 16, 2014 09:16 PM |
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Marzhin said:
Stevie said: The bewilderment after realizing people are talking about the art like it's the game itself. I'm not even sure if some people even saw that the post has words in it.
Which is the reason why most game developers won't approach any community board or forum. The loss of Sanity Points would be too high. I can testify to that...
Take everything with a pinch of salt on these forums! I am sure you do.
Also, just like developing H5 skills the way you want them to, there's an art to filtering constructive comments from all the mindless chatter and rudeness!
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 16, 2014 09:30 PM |
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War-overlord said: Which once more reminds me of this famous quote:
Ben Crosshaw aka Yahtzee said: Maybe if the original creators of something don't want to continue it then you should listen to them, because otherwise you're only making it to please the fans. And why would you want to do anything for fans? I mean, I'm a Silent Hill fan and I've just spent the whole review whining like a broken motor. Fans are clingy, complaining d1psh1ts who will never ever be grateful for any concession you make. The moment you shut out their shrill, tremulous voices, the happier you'll be for it.
Ah, I just love this guy.. hope he makes one rewiev for HVII. He would die on this game
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 16, 2014 09:33 PM |
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Dave_Jame said: Ah, I just love this guy.. hope he makes one rewiev for HVII. He would die on this game
He made one for M&M X, so who knows. It needs to be released first though.
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 09:37 PM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 21:51, 16 Sep 2014.
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first of all, thanks for the informative act developers! i wish we could have seen same act before for sylvan vs fortress election. dwarves may had a real chance. people imagined dwarves as if they are H5 dwarves during the vote.
Anyways, lets head to line-up arts. OK now, this may take long to read, prepare yourselfes
1-pixie is perfect, those camouflaged plant look pretty much tell all we need, just the way i imagined them!
2-i liked the dryad. it really catches the feeling of "becoming something else". although it also looks a bit too much "ghostly". maybe adding some solid material to its biology results better in terms of design? maybe dozens of little branches may spread from his heart like veins? or woord branches covering his first half?
3-female emerald knight's belly is open, it should be covered with armor just like the male version. its pointless to see his belly... it reminds me those"trying-to-be-sexy-WoW-elves". and her hair is way too long to fight. do this realistic approaches to the female, and it will be awesome, have no doubts!
male version is awesome, he needs no change at all. no flaws!
4-twilight stag is a good name, i'm glad they thought a new name. now about the creature.. it has awesome meaningfull shape detail in his head, i loved it. but still it also lacks some details, it doesnt seem like an intelligent beign. what should be done about it? i dont know...
5-dragons! although i love those stones-vegetation-blue crystal shards, the artwork should be improved. those features were intruduced to us with earth elementals in MM:H6 if i remember correctly. i love those features because it tells me what this dragon is about/sylanna? emerald dragon? both?).if feels like they are representing aspects of nature! BUT! it definietly needs improvement because the way they look now, is just reminds me of a sculpted earth element. maybe adding some emerald scales to body and maybe adding some organic-flesh parts do the job?.. anyway, i dont want old boring green sprey painted dragon from h5, and i think this design shows us that they are moving on a right path.
GENDERS
distribution of genders should be planned, and it will be planned.. but how it will be? which ones should be male and which ones should be female, and finally which should be "genderless"? pixies looks genderless but i think it should be genderless already. treants & pixies & snakes, all are originating from plants so it seems logical to me to see them as sort of"genderless"
dragons and phoenixes are also not humanoid therefore they look genderless to our eyes. they feel same.
that leaves us hunters, emerald knights, druids, bladedancers to deciede about. how should we seperate them? it should be equal in my opinion.
i wanna start with druid. i think druid should be in female-elf side, because of mother-nature & gaia feels. i dont know why, but nature is generally portreyed as "she". even dragon goddess sylanna is a "she".
hunter is a classic old traditional creature always portreyed as "he", so i think this may result better to stay that way.
so 1 male, 1 female to this point. continuing on...
strenght --- hunter, druid, emerald knight
balance --- hunter, druid, emerald knight
fury---hunter, druid, blade dancer
all factions have 3 elves, that leaves me to think that we should pick last elf as a male too[in generally, slyvan is a "she" heavy faction(regardless of their creature type, humanoid/non-humanoid)].
2 males, 1 female for each faction should feel more balanced.
this means emerald knight and bladedancer will be "he"(according to my guess/theory). so in the end it goes like this:
strenght --- hunter(male), druid(female), emerald knight(male)
balance --- hunter(male), druid(female), emerald knight(male)
fury---hunter(male), druid(female), blade dancer(male)
PHEWWW finally im done writing.
i am about to fall in love with ashan and its unique music and graphic design. please continue to develop this amazing, unique world, MM:H7 deserves to have their own music and own creatures!
TL;DR i liked all shown creatures, but they need to be improved.
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AcidDragon
Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
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posted September 16, 2014 09:49 PM |
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This is an excerpt from the Ashan Compendium:
"Elven Cavalry is mostly light cavalry, again designed for speed and maneuverability over shock power. Only the elite Unicorn Riders - the closest the Elves come to the knights of the Holy Empire - will use large shields and lances to drive their point home."
Can we just PLEASE say that Emerald Knights will ride Unicorns? Then Earth's Perfect Balance takes the gold, we have the most awesome Sylvan lineup, being a combination of Heroes I/II and III/V lineups and I can just sit back and relax, knowing that there will be at least one faction I will like to play with .
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 16, 2014 10:02 PM |
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24-39-37 Damn it why is Fury so strong
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:16 PM |
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Galaad said: 24-39-37 Damn it why is Fury so strong
A lot of Russians voting, and Fury describes them well... they are angry, very very angry.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted September 16, 2014 10:17 PM |
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we still got less than 9 days now so everyone might win
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:21 PM |
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Galaad said: 24-39-37 Damn it why is Fury so strong
i think i know why. russians-polands met series with fifth game: H5.
no matter whatever developers show, most of them vote for H5 line up. they want another H5.
sadly they are large part of the new-found fanbase.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted September 16, 2014 10:23 PM |
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RMZ1989 said:
Galaad said: 24-39-37 Damn it why is Fury so strong
A lot of Russians voting, and Fury describes them well... they are angry, very very angry.
lol
It's true that Russia and Poland are probably the two biggest M&M fanbase countries, but it's weird the majority of them agrees
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yogi
Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
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posted September 16, 2014 10:28 PM |
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AcidDragon said: This is an excerpt from the Ashan Compendium:
"Elven Cavalry is mostly light cavalry, again designed for speed and maneuverability over shock power. Only the elite Unicorn Riders - the closest the Elves come to the knights of the Holy Empire - will use large shields and lances to drive their point home."
Can we just PLEASE say that Emerald Knights will ride Unicorns? Then Earth's Perfect Balance takes the gold, we have the most awesome Sylvan lineup, being a combination of Heroes I/II and III/V lineups and I can just sit back and relax, knowing that there will be at least one faction I will like to play with .
+1
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"Lol we are HC'ers.. The same tribe.. Guy!" ~Ghost
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Kurush
Known Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:29 PM |
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cleglaw said:
Galaad said: 24-39-37 Damn it why is Fury so strong
i think i know why. russians-polands met series with fifth game: H5.
no matter whatever developers show, most of them vote for H5 line up. they want another H5.
sadly they are large part of the new-found fanbase.
Na-ah Russia and Poland have got one of the oldest and most classic hotseat heroes communities.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted September 16, 2014 10:31 PM |
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RMZ1989 said: A lot of Russians voting, and Fury describes them well... they are angry, very very angry.
pure gold!
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AcidDragon
Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
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posted September 16, 2014 10:37 PM |
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cleglaw said: i think i know why. russians-polands met series with fifth game: H5.
no matter whatever developers show, most of them vote for H5 line up. they want another H5.
sadly they are large part of the new-found fanbase.
You have no idea, what you're talking about, right?
Two out of three biggest Polish M&M sites are concentrated mostly around the older games. The Behemoth's Lair (which BTW is older than Google) revolves mostly around Heroes III, and my own home, Acid Cave went as far as to have a sub-site about Might & Magic I. If anything, we're not big fans of Ashan, but just try to come to us and say something bad about Heroes II, for example. I dare you .
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 16, 2014 10:39 PM |
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AcidDragon said: This is an excerpt from the Ashan Compendium:
"Elven Cavalry is mostly light cavalry, again designed for speed and maneuverability over shock power. Only the elite Unicorn Riders - the closest the Elves come to the knights of the Holy Empire - will use large shields and lances to drive their point home."
Can we just PLEASE say that Emerald Knights will ride Unicorns? Then Earth's Perfect Balance takes the gold, we have the most awesome Sylvan lineup, being a combination of Heroes I/II and III/V lineups and I can just sit back and relax, knowing that there will be at least one faction I will like to play with .
Yes, I agree, we must press this issue, when it's even consistent with their own lore, there is a loophole to sneak in the Unicorn through the back door without admitting they were wrong.
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