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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted September 17, 2014 07:53 AM |
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DarkLord said:
with the new artworks it seems that devs are trying to forse Fury as a first option to choose
as there are no artworks of Unicorns or Phoenixes
Man, you guys really are paranoid.
As I said in the comments the article focuses on the new creatures, or the ones about which there was confusion (Green Dragons as walkers for instance).
We didn't feel we had to explain to Heroes fans what's an Elven Archer, a Druid or a Unicorn... 
As for "forcing" the vote, personally I would rather see Strength win than Fury (yes, I actually want to have Unicorns in Sylvan) so no, we're not forcing anything... We'll live with whatever the end result is.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted September 17, 2014 07:59 AM |
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DarkLord said:
and sudden jump of Fury from last place to first one leaves me very suspicious
Yeah, especially if the quantity of votes are very low, it makes it easier for someone to cheat and vote many times using different user names...4,000 votes would be difficult, a couple 100 easy....
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted September 17, 2014 08:58 AM |
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Marzhin said:
We didn't feel we had to explain to Heroes fans what's an Elven Archer, a Druid or a Unicorn...
TBF Ashan creatures tend to come with a twist.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 09:44 AM |
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Quote:
It's interesting how Cleglaw fails to understand that if people were hacking votes in favor of Fury, both Strength and Balance would have dropped percentages. Instead of that we've seen only Strength dropping, while Balance maintained a percent of 36%. And now it's at 39%.
Takes you a lot of nerve to make such false accusations.
Wow, someone besides me actually said this. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend this argument.
But in reality it's not that, is it? It's that auto-victimization wins votes, right? Great electoral strategy. These balance voters with 40% dare accuse us of cheating when they're leading the vote. What? It happened too fast? So what about it? No one said ANYTHING when Strength took the lead, did they? Or are you intentionally ignorant of that fact too?
You wanna know what happened? PEOPLE CHANGED THEIR MIND! That's why Balanced stayed at 36% all along while that changed happened. If only Fury was receiving votes because of hacking, both Strength and Balance would have dropped simultaneously in percentages! It fits the facts better, and it's a ton more reasonable!
So your accusing of Fury voters is nothing more than a campaign for votes based on trickery! You lost a lot of face here. Facts speak better than your lies.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted September 17, 2014 09:56 AM |
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I feel like someone was actually legitimately upset when typing that.
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vitirr
Known Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 10:05 AM |
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Marzhin said:
vitirr said:
Only that strictly speaking there's not really a 'dwarf' theme or is it?
As I said before there's a music track that Rob & Paul composed for the Dwarves, named Tinkering with the Dwarves, and it will definitely be used somewhere in the game, just not as the Fortress theme since Fortress wasn't voted.
Sorry I missed that. It thought other theme would be used for dwarves, one that is not named after dwarves.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 10:06 AM |
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To be honest I liked the first poll, but not this one. Its just too dividing. As it stands right now whatever line up wins 2/3(most) of the players going to be unhappy about it! I feel it would be best to leave the line up to proffesionals. And also, some of the desicions desicions baffle me.. Treant is preset in every proposed lineup but Unicorn is in only one?? Why?
Ok, so for me, there are two ways to go about this vote. From a position of long time heroes fan, its great to see Phoenix back with the elves, as in Heroes 3 Rampart or Heroes 2 Sorceress. But from a position of a Heroes 5-6 player, and in regards with Ashan lore, the most fitting line up would be the Strength. It has Dryads, workinf in symbiosis with mighty Treants, Druids, Unicorns and Dragons. Lovely lineup. The Balance is a fall back choice for me.. The absolute worst for me is the Fury. Dryads and Pixies together? Meaely blade dancers instead of Emerald knights? Seriously, the only somewhat good about this lineup is the Sun Deer. Nice concept but not enough to save Fury in my eyes.
So please, vote for the Strength! See, it is the real Elven lineup, Elves are not supposed to be aggressive like their Dark brothers, they suppose to stay back in their safe forests and hold enemies at bay whilst destroying them with arrows and spells. In Ashan, phoenix belongs with the Wizards, as they do in Clash of Heroes.
Strength has it all in my opinion, although I would miss Sprites
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Pavijan
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 10:07 AM |
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AcidDragon said:
This is an excerpt from the Ashan Compendium:
"Elven Cavalry is mostly light cavalry, again designed for speed and maneuverability over shock power. Only the elite Unicorn Riders - the closest the Elves come to the knights of the Holy Empire - will use large shields and lances to drive their point home."
Can we just PLEASE say that Emerald Knights will ride Unicorns? Then Earth's Perfect Balance takes the gold, we have the most awesome Sylvan lineup, being a combination of Heroes I/II and III/V lineups and I can just sit back and relax, knowing that there will be at least one faction I will like to play with  .
+1000
Perfect idea is there, they should just take it and bring it to life. It isn't that hard, really.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 17, 2014 10:51 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 10:52, 17 Sep 2014.
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Marzhin said:
We didn't feel we had to explain to Heroes fans what's an Elven Archer, a Druid or a Unicorn...
Or a Phoenix 
Getting to see all three lineups with all artworks would be nice, if it is not too much to ask..
Stevie said:
No one said ANYTHING when Strength took the lead, did they?
No one will find suspicious HoMM fans will vote for Unicorns lol
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NACHOOOO
Known Hero
Pessimistically optimistic
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posted September 17, 2014 01:06 PM |
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@Stevie
Strength isn't winning anymore so it's obviously got to be hacking. It's what I've voted for so it's the only option and anyone who disagrees has to be wrong!
But seriously vote Strength cause I really like it
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted September 17, 2014 01:40 PM |
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DarkLord said:
Marzhin said:
DarkLord said:
with the new artworks it seems that devs are trying to forse Fury as a first option to choose
as there are no artworks of Unicorns or Phoenixes
Man, you guys really are paranoid.
As I said in the comments the article focuses on the new creatures, or the ones about which there was confusion (Green Dragons as walkers for instance).
We didn't feel we had to explain to Heroes fans what's an Elven Archer, a Druid or a Unicorn...
As for "forcing" the vote, personally I would rather see Strength win than Fury (yes, I actually want to have Unicorns in Sylvan) so no, we're not forcing anything... We'll live with whatever the end result is.
Hah, sorry Marzhin, i just love conspiracy theories
But hearing your comments will take my words back and guess i am really a bit paranoid and there is no "forcing" going on.
as me and everyone else here trusts you )
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted September 17, 2014 01:56 PM |
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Hermes said:
So please, vote for the Strength! See, it is the real Elven lineup, Elves are not supposed to be aggressive like their Dark brothers, they suppose to stay back in their safe forests and hold enemies at bay whilst destroying them with arrows and spells. In Ashan, phoenix belongs with the Wizards, as they do in Clash of Heroes.
Strength has it all in my opinion, although I would miss Sprites
Couldn't agree more 
Strength of the Forest all the way. Ranged attacks with good defense. Yes please.
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Raelag84
Famous Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 02:38 PM |
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War-overlord said:
It does begg the question where all these Fury voters are coming from? Are they fans who don't subscribe to the fan-fora? Is it realy due to cheating?(I never put much faith in that rumour, even though I still think it should be investigated.)
Or they are people like me who just didn't feel the need to explain their vote.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 17, 2014 02:50 PM |
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@Stevie
Unless balance also increased at the same time? For all you know, the current difference between strength and balance could be that the latter got more new voters rather than people switching. I am not making any accusations but according to math this is a possibility.
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Raelag84
Famous Hero
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posted September 17, 2014 03:44 PM |
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Elvin said:
@Stevie
Unless balance also increased at the same time? For all you know, the current difference between strength and balance could be that the latter got more new voters rather than people switching. I am not making any accusations but according to math this is a possibility.
It is just as possible that people are cheating in favor of the balance line up. At any rate this discussion is useless. How are we going to know who's cheating, and how are we going to stop them?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 17, 2014 03:48 PM |
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Exactly, we can never know without an official response But much as info services' post might have been questionable, he had a good point. How can you tell if the post from an ip is made from a public pc or from a personal one? It could be a pc where someone is making multiple accounts or it could be a pc where multiple people have access to..
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 17, 2014 03:50 PM |
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Raelag84 said:
It is just as possible that people are cheating in favor of the balance line up. At any rate this discussion is useless. How are we going to know who's cheating, and how are we going to stop them?
Well if Ubisoft doesn't investigate this, we'll never know indeed.
But if it is found out true, an equal ammount of votes to the ones cheated should either be dretracted or given to both other options to nullify them.
But this all hinges on it being investigated by the owners of the site and it actually being possible to be found out.
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Vote El Presidente! Or Else!
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted September 17, 2014 03:51 PM |
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i think re-voting is a bad choice!
there should be option to vote only once, so people will choose more wisely and will take time to make their decision
rather then jumping from one option to another
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 17, 2014 03:54 PM |
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Or we can declare the entire experiment fundamentally flawed and put in Fortress instead.
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Vote El Presidente! Or Else!
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted September 17, 2014 04:00 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Or we can declare the entire experiment fundamentally flawed and put in Fortress instead.
Hell yeah I definitely want this to happen!!!
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