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War-overlord
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posted September 20, 2014 07:42 PM |
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Valen-Teen said:
And Heroes 4 ;-)
Infernopolis does not count.
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posted September 20, 2014 07:50 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Infernopolis does not count.
WE'LL GET DUNFERNO 
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fuChris
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posted September 20, 2014 07:52 PM |
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Damn. Now I want to play H4 again...
Which campaign to start? I already did the Gauldoth campaign on champion this year.
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posted September 20, 2014 08:29 PM |
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fuChris said:
Damn. Now I want to play H4 again...
Which campaign to start? I already did the Gauldoth campaign on champion this year.
Play all of them! 
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posted September 20, 2014 08:50 PM |
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Protolisk said:
Stormcaller said:
Anything but Sylvan. There is a thread about it, and yet it somehow spread into other threads.
And as I said, I'm doubtful we'll see demons. Dungeons is yet another fan favorite race.
Most likely because it is the topic on everyone's mind, and has a countdown till it is completed.
And, as much as I love Inferno, this is probably the case. Even more so, trying to shoehorn-in Inferno among the council seems a little forced. Why would a demon be there? Didn't a demon start all these problems? Why would an Angel (hates Faceless, and demons), a Asha-fanatic (Necromancers are the order to the demonic chaos), and a orc (Don't 99% of orcs HATE demons cause of that "empty cradle" incident?) let a demon in the same room? I am not certain about the Wizard's view point, but they probably hate them, as well as the Elf.
If it was Dungeon, most likely only the Sylvan Elf and the Angel (but she might be against the angelic Elrath church, so maybe she'd be okay with a Faceless/Dark Elf at the table) would not like them. It would fit more, story wise (unless they figure out a great way to implement the demons otherwise.) This saddens me.
Easy kiril griffin its already hinted that he might be Ivan's demon informant how else did Ivan get the information on Jezebeth's location and Ivan would not reveal where he got the information from. Plus Anastasya the necropolis counciler would not hate him either since they are siblings. Of course the others would take convincing but if both her and Ivan vouch for him I am sure it would be okay.
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War-overlord
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posted September 20, 2014 08:52 PM |
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lokdron said:
Easy kiril griffin its already hinted that he might be Ivan's demon informant how else did Ivan get the information on Jezebeth's location and Ivan would not reveal where he got the information from.
Is that hinted anywhere else? Cause that's just your speculation.
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posted September 20, 2014 09:00 PM |
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War-overlord said:
lokdron said:
Easy kiril griffin its already hinted that he might be Ivan's demon informant how else did Ivan get the information on Jezebeth's location and Ivan would not reveal where he got the information from.
Is that hinted anywhere else? Cause that's just your speculation.
Yes its speculation but if dungeon and inferno is going to be the next vote who else can they put on the council? Plus where would Ivan get information on Jezebeth's movements? Why would he not reveal where he got this information to the other duchies?
Only a demon would have this information and the only one I can think of that would give such information is Kiril and it won't look good on Ivan if he told the duchies ooh right I got the information from a demon. That would blow his chances to the throne completely. Plus Kiril is known to still help his family even if he is a demon.
He is the only councillor that I could think of that would make sense. I mean if you have a theory on who possible councillor inferno would get and would make sense I am happy to hear your theories.
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War-overlord
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posted September 20, 2014 09:13 PM |
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lokdron said:
Yes its speculation but if dungeon and inferno is going to be the next vote who else can they put on the council? Plus where would Ivan get information on Jezebeth's movements? Why would he not reveal where he got this information to the other duchies?
Only a demon would have this information and the only one I can think of that would give such information is Kiril and it won't look good on Ivan if he told the duchies ooh right I got the information from a demon. That would blow his chances to the throne completely. Plus Kiril is known to still help his family even if he is a demon.
He is the only councillor that I could think of that would make sense. I mean if you have a theory on who possible councillor inferno would get and would make sense I am happy to hear your theories.
Very well. Suppose a dear friend or family-member, not Kiril or Anastasya, belongs now or has belonged to a Demon-Cult. Since there's always a few of those around, that's possible.
Suppose that particular cult worships a different demon-lord then Jezebeth serves. Since Demons are in an eternal rat-race with one another, that is possible.
It would therefor serve the purpose of this particular cult to have Jezebeths plans thwarted.
So this friend/family uses his/her connections with this cult to learn of Jezebeth's location. Tells this to Ivan, so Ivan can be the Hero of the Day.
Now this puts Ivan on the spot. Telling anyone of this friend/family or this information will be bad for both of them, on top of Ivan owing the friend/family for the information. This is of course assuming that allowing this friend/family to live isn't payment enough.
If anyone learns that Ivan's friend/family is or was a cultist, the inquisition would kill the friend/family and possibly Ivan for heresy and in Ivan case colluding with Demon-Worshippers. Let alone it ruining his Imperial Aspirations.
Good enough for ya?
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posted September 20, 2014 09:42 PM |
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That is indeed good but the problem is why create a whole new character when we have someone who is a family member and has good reasons to help Ivan plus he opposes Kha-Beleth? Lets not forget he still has a good relationship with Anastasya.
I believe kiril would make a better candidate as councillor than a random new character/demon cultist. Plus the campaign format according to Marzhin is now the Councillor telling Ivan of events and stories Kiril is old enough to see the rise of kha-beleth and a host of other events considering how old he is now.
Plus it would help the whole issue of why would the other races let them at the table which kiril has story justification to avoid since another family member is there.
Plus these people must have knowledge of war and leading a host of people which Kiril has knowledge of. Apologies if I seem passive aggressive I am not aiming to do that if you get that feeling.
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War-overlord
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posted September 20, 2014 10:15 PM |
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lokdron said:
That is indeed good but the problem is why create a whole new character when we have someone who is a family member and has good reasons to help Ivan plus he opposes Kha-Beleth?
Because people greatly dislike the griffin siblings? Especially Kyril, who was regarded as whiny.
Seriously, Anastasya was the best of the 5, but that ain't sayin' much.
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posted September 20, 2014 10:31 PM |
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War-overlord said:
lokdron said:
That is indeed good but the problem is why create a whole new character when we have someone who is a family member and has good reasons to help Ivan plus he opposes Kha-Beleth?
Because people greatly dislike the griffin siblings? Especially Kyril, who was regarded as whiny.
Seriously, Anastasya was the best of the 5, but that ain't sayin' much.
People disliked kiril? Really? Hmm I see I personally don't see him as whiny and I quite like him. Still don't see a reason to make a new character the writers should improve him if many feel that way.
I do agree Anastasya is the best talking to most people who played the game majority of them go blood with her, well I went blood as well since I find her more awesome that way.
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Lexxan
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posted September 20, 2014 10:31 PM |
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False. IRINA is the best Griffin Sibling by far. (Anastasia <3 though.)
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DarkLord
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posted September 20, 2014 11:14 PM |
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i disliked all of them!
hope none of those kids will return in Heroes7
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Royin
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posted September 20, 2014 11:19 PM |
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DarkLord said:
i disliked all of them!
hope none of those kids will return in Heroes7
Referenced possibly, I think they're all dead by now aren't they?
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War-overlord
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posted September 20, 2014 11:21 PM |
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Royin said:
Referenced possibly, I think they're all dead by now aren't they?
Anastasya is undead, so unless killed.....
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posted September 20, 2014 11:31 PM |
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As you're talking about these h6 siblings, i realized that i haven't actually played the h6 campaigns yet. So i wanted to ask if it's worth the time and if the game is in a similar state as when released? Btw i only have the basic game without any adventure packs or the dungeon expansion, if it makes any difference..
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War-overlord
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posted September 20, 2014 11:33 PM |
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It's better then released, but still not entirely stable. Experiences vary between people and rigs.
But the adventure-packs were the best if you're looking for a story.
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posted September 20, 2014 11:41 PM |
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Royin said:
DarkLord said:
i disliked all of them!
hope none of those kids will return in Heroes7
Referenced possibly, I think they're all dead by now aren't they?
in Heroes7 campaigns are about "tales of the past"
so can be any time from mythic age literally
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posted September 20, 2014 11:53 PM |
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War-overlord said:
It's better then released, but still not entirely stable. Experiences vary between people and rigs.
But the adventure-packs were the best if you're looking for a story.
Thanks! should it run mroe or less properly i might get danse macabre then.. 
How long do you think would an averagely good player need to get through the campaigns without rushing through it or anything?
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posted September 20, 2014 11:56 PM |
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DarkLord said:
Royin said:
DarkLord said:
i disliked all of them!
hope none of those kids will return in Heroes7
Referenced possibly, I think they're all dead by now aren't they?
in Heroes7 campaigns are about "tales of the past"
so can be any time from mythic age literally
Yup indeed.
Well Anastasya is the necropolis councillor we see her with blue beak sitting on her chair. Still has Marzhin said the campaigns are not about them but about their faction so to speak. So we can almost see any event on the timeline dealing with said faction.
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