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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 25, 2015 08:40 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
And who ever put the inferno theme on autoplay...  Shame on you! It really isnt nice to get scared like that all of a sudden. My volumes were left pretty high for some reason.. nearly pissed my pants
It's Fortress theme from H3... or main theme from MM6. Either way, no placing it to Auto Play, might give those "marketing experts" new strategies to force ads on us.
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 08:42 PM |
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Being able to change some secondary colors is a neat idea, as long as it can be turned off. I prefer my wyverns to not be striped like a where's Waldo shirt  that looks absolutely ridiculous.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 25, 2015 08:46 PM |
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If I read correctly, people will have to install the base game at path, whose size equals the sum to nearly 25 Gigabytes? That's waaaay too high for such a game.
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 08:46 PM |
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agent_catnip said:
Purple dungeon has nothing to do with this. H6 problem was the unified colour palette for all of a faction's creatures, not just some coloured bits and pieces.
I think its basically the same. Units are coded with the same color and it bothers me :/
EnergyZ said:
It's Fortress theme from H3...
Weird... I turned on the volume again to listen and it is Fortress theme now. But it was Inferno when i first heard it thou :/ You can see it on Maurice's comment above where he quoted it.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted September 25, 2015 08:49 PM |
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Don't ever edit out this one, Herry. Let Necropolis play over and over! 
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted September 25, 2015 08:50 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
Weird... I turned on the volume again to listen and it is Fortress theme now. But it was Inferno when i first heard it thou :/ You can see it on Maurice's comment above where he quoted it.
It's in Herry's post, the one that I quoted. He has embedded a YouTube player with dimensions of 0x0 in his post. So you don't see it, but since he also put it on autoplay, it will start automatically as soon as this page is loaded.
He replaced Inferno by Fortress now, but that doesn't make it any less intrusive.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 25, 2015 08:57 PM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
EnergyZ said:
It's Fortress theme from H3...
Weird... I turned on the volume again to listen and it is Fortress theme now. But it was Inferno when i first heard it thou :/ You can see it on Maurice's comment above where he quoted it.
Then it is likely a playlist. Either way, it is annoying.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted September 25, 2015 08:59 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Then it is likely a playlist. Either way, it is annoying.
He kept editing his post, replacing the link. It's not a playlist.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 25, 2015 09:00 PM |
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And wait, shooters can't attack in melee? So this means they can't practically do nothing if they are close to the enemy unit?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 25, 2015 09:10 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 21:11, 25 Sep 2015.
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natalka said:
Why the level cap is beyond me. Limbic replied that it is difficult to reach level 30. So what if I want to make a super big map with lots of neutral monster to kill. I am limited because the FUN STOPS when you reach level 30 so I can make as large and epic adventure as the stupid level cap allows me..
Totally agree, the map editor also looks like a nice tool to create long singleplay scenarios, and heroes will definitely go beyond level 30/40 if you envision epic adventure.
I also agree on what you say about battle sites, IMO the game is severely lacking of these.
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agent_catnip
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 25, 2015 09:13 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
And wait, shooters can't attack in melee? So this means they can't practically do nothing if they are close to the enemy unit?
Nope. They can't be forced into melee.
Replying to your previous post, as I understand it, the complete game size will be around 13 gigs. They were referring to retail copy owners who would need to get a 12 gig patch to get them up to speed with the final release version.
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 09:45 PM |
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Could anybody tell me because I couldn't watch today stream, if the color coding is optional ? is there any way to turn it off ?
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TD
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 09:54 PM |
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Actually Limbic already explained in some past twitch that classic level cap is 30 so they used it(side-note:their idea of classic is h6). And besides, they've probably calculated that 95% players play with easiest difficulty so it will take forever to get there if it's even possible. Of course if you play hard/heroic you will be hitting 30 around the end of month 2 based on both betas...
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted September 25, 2015 09:57 PM |
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Minastir said:
Could anybody tell me because I couldn't watch today stream, if the color coding is optional ? is there any way to turn it off ?
I've asked that question on the official SC page. Now we have to wait for the answer.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted September 25, 2015 10:05 PM |
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Edited by natalka at 22:12, 25 Sep 2015.
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yes but it is so easy to implement. Write a function to get the values of the next 70 levels and fill in the damn XP table. Let`s rant. We want epic adventures. We don`t need level cap.
@TD, no please, please listen to their hilarious answer.
Q: Why there is level cap at level 30 ?
A: It is very hard to reach level 30.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 10:15 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 22:16, 25 Sep 2015.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted September 25, 2015 11:57 PM |
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Edited by EnergyZ at 00:01, 26 Sep 2015.
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Stevie said:
ThatRedSarah said:
Hi!
I was watching the stream and i noticed that there were some sort of color coding going on on the creatures? What was that?
The lich had a red hood, spider had red tattoos and the skeleton had some red clothes... Was it due to the player being the "red player"? Can you turn that feature off? All this discussion about creature visuals and then they get all painted in the same color in the end... please tell me im wrong...
You got it right. That's a feature inspired by almighty Starcraft and Warcraft, as Erwan himself admitted.
For really, has it come to this? To make the game so mainstream about Warcraft and other franchises? Just because it worked out in the past (like inspirations from D&D) does not mean it will work out right now. After all, 20, no, over 30 years of experience have turned into dust. Especially with that claim "no, we don't want to beat Heroes III, just to make a great game". And probably with that claim what turn-based strategy games are not popular nowadays. Is it that hard to just reconsider the approach, rather than ignore the whole genre?
Now I ask - what are they really trying to accomplish? All that gold that was spent, why not saving it for one amazing Heroes game? This is just splitting hairs to get more money out of consumers. The gaming industry does not work this way and never will. People want to buy games to enjoy them, to experience their "inner self", likely even learn some things from it about life, not just to be amazed by those graphics. Too many fallacies.
And how much was learned? Very little - starting to ignore Heroes V and even retcon it, sending the Black Hole company into bankrupcy and ignore the people's feedback. This has greed written all over it - I know it, you know it and everyone else knows it. Especially with that Shadow Council site; while good in theory, the way the site is being utilized is so wrong. Even the votes have split the fanbase into pieces, as if it wasn't enough there are still Enroth-Ashan debates, resulting in nothingness.
And now this Erwan person starts to inserting his pipe dreams of Warcraft? Who has even given the approval of such an action?
Games nowadays strive for more, and Heroes, as it seems, takes a step forward and two steps back. How else can it be explained that we got a random system that many are disliking it? Or certain creature designs, some of which are just re-used? Games change, as do the time and money needed to develop them and that has to be crystal-clear for everyone - including Ubisoft, who seems to have lent the Might and Magic dev team too little, else they wouldn't be in the position to claim they don't have money, right?
This comment I made - it just makes me furious that the devs claim they know what the players want, then take a turn into a different direction, which only a minority follows. While we leave feedback, which is branded only as subjective, personal opinion. And what opinion do the devs have, objective, then? Do they? Are they the "everknowing gods, who cannot fail and know what they are doing"? Or is it just that we are "simple peasantry, who know nothing about game development and are as educated as a hollow rock"?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted September 26, 2015 12:01 AM |
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So before I preach to the choir and bash those questionable decisions - was there anything of note from the stream? (aside from what has already been mentioned)
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 26, 2015 12:02 AM |
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SC said:
Heroes specializations are also on our mind, as you have been quite vocal about it. We can’t promise anything at this point, but it is a topic that is definitely on our priority list regarding the future of Heroes 7.
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The Young Traveler
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sobaka770
Hired Hero
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posted September 26, 2015 01:28 AM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
Oh my god....  Why did we even bother with the lineup reveals and commenting on the visuals... this is a dumb decision... once again...
You would think that after H6 and the purple dungeon and all, they would know better. They were doing so well with the lineup colors until the very end when they buthcered it all again They even said they will tone dont the color identification of the units...
The army colours looked nice. There's nothing wrong with the player colour affecting units, it gives them more identity. I see nothing wrong with having purple liches if you choose a purple player colour. It was one of the nicest new additions in the stream actually, in my opinion.
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