EnergyZ said:

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Stevie said:

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ThatRedSarah said:

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Hi!

I was watching the stream and i noticed that there were some sort of color coding going on on the creatures? What was that?

The lich had a red hood, spider had red tattoos and the skeleton had some red clothes... Was it due to the player being the "red player"? Can you turn that feature off? All this discussion about creature visuals and then they get all painted in the same color in the end... please tell me im wrong...

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You got it right. That's a feature inspired by almighty Starcraft and Warcraft, as Erwan himself admitted.

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For really, has it come to this? To make the game so mainstream about Warcraft and other franchises? Just because it worked out in the past (like inspirations from D&D) does not mean it will work out right now. After all, 20, no, over 30 years of experience have turned into dust. Especially with that claim "no, we don't want to beat Heroes III, just to make a great game". And probably with that claim what turn-based strategy games are not popular nowadays. Is it that hard to just reconsider the approach, rather than ignore the whole genre?

Now I ask - what are they really trying to accomplish? All that gold that was spent, why not saving it for one amazing Heroes game? This is just splitting hairs to get more money out of consumers. The gaming industry does not work this way and never will. People want to buy games to enjoy them, to experience their "inner self", likely even learn some things from it about life, not just to be amazed by those graphics. Too many fallacies.

And how much was learned? Very little - starting to ignore Heroes V and even retcon it, sending the Black Hole company into bankrupcy and ignore the people's feedback. This has greed written all over it - I know it, you know it and everyone else knows it. Especially with that Shadow Council site; while good in theory, the way the site is being utilized is so wrong. Even the votes have split the fanbase into pieces, as if it wasn't enough there are still Enroth-Ashan debates, resulting in nothingness.

And now this Erwan person starts to inserting his pipe dreams of Warcraft? Who has even given the approval of such an action?

Games nowadays strive for more, and Heroes, as it seems, takes a step forward and two steps back. How else can it be explained that we got a random system that many are disliking it? Or certain creature designs, some of which are just re-used? Games change, as do the time and money needed to develop them and that has to be crystal-clear for everyone - including Ubisoft, who seems to have lent the Might and Magic dev team too little, else they wouldn't be in the position to claim they don't have money, right?

This comment I made - it just makes me furious that the devs claim they know what the players want, then take a turn into a different direction, which only a minority follows. While we leave feedback, which is branded only as subjective, personal opinion. And what opinion do the devs have, objective, then? Do they? Are they the "everknowing gods, who cannot fail and know what they are doing"? Or is it just that we are "simple peasantry, who know nothing about game development and are as educated as a hollow rock"?

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EnergyZ said:

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Stevie said:

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ThatRedSarah said:

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Hi!

I was watching the stream and i noticed that there were some sort of color coding going on on the creatures? What was that?

The lich had a red hood, spider had red tattoos and the skeleton had some red clothes... Was it due to the player being the "red player"? Can you turn that feature off? All this discussion about creature visuals and then they get all painted in the same color in the end... please tell me im wrong...

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You got it right. That's a feature inspired by almighty Starcraft and Warcraft, as Erwan himself admitted.

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For really, has it come to this? To make the game so mainstream about Warcraft and other franchises? Just because it worked out in the past (like inspirations from D&D) does not mean it will work out right now. After all, 20, no, over 30 years of experience have turned into dust. Especially with that claim "no, we don't want to beat Heroes III, just to make a great game". And probably with that claim what turn-based strategy games are not popular nowadays. Is it that hard to just reconsider the approach, rather than ignore the whole genre?

Now I ask - what are they really trying to accomplish? All that gold that was spent, why not saving it for one amazing Heroes game? This is just splitting hairs to get more money out of consumers. The gaming industry does not work this way and never will. People want to buy games to enjoy them, to experience their "inner self", likely even learn some things from it about life, not just to be amazed by those graphics. Too many fallacies.

And how much was learned? Very little - starting to ignore Heroes V and even retcon it, sending the Black Hole company into bankrupcy and ignore the people's feedback. This has greed written all over it - I know it, you know it and everyone else knows it. Especially with that Shadow Council site; while good in theory, the way the site is being utilized is so wrong. Even the votes have split the fanbase into pieces, as if it wasn't enough there are still Enroth-Ashan debates, resulting in nothingness.

And now this Erwan person starts to inserting his pipe dreams of Warcraft? Who has even given the approval of such an action?

Games nowadays strive for more, and Heroes, as it seems, takes a step forward and two steps back. How else can it be explained that we got a random system that many are disliking it? Or certain creature designs, some of which are just re-used? Games change, as do the time and money needed to develop them and that has to be crystal-clear for everyone - including Ubisoft, who seems to have lent the Might and Magic dev team too little, else they wouldn't be in the position to claim they don't have money, right?

This comment I made - it just makes me furious that the devs claim they know what the players want, then take a turn into a different direction, which only a minority follows. While we leave feedback, which is branded only as subjective, personal opinion. And what opinion do the devs have, objective, then? Do they? Are they the "everknowing gods, who cannot fail and know what they are doing"? Or is it just that we are "simple peasantry, who know nothing about game development and are as educated as a hollow rock"?

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keldaur said:

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About player colours. Wow. I am just amazed.

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Stevie said:

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ThatRedSarah said:

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Hi!

I was watching the stream and i noticed that there were some sort of color coding going on on the creatures? What was that?

The lich had a red hood, spider had red tattoos and the skeleton had some red clothes... Was it due to the player being the "red player"? Can you turn that feature off? All this discussion about creature visuals and then they get all painted in the same color in the end... please tell me im wrong...

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You got it right. That's a feature inspired by almighty Starcraft and Warcraft, as Erwan himself admitted.

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TD said:

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I don't really see any point in complaining about an option to color your troops since you can use the default ones if you so wish.

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GenyaArikado said:

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why are you making an essay on...player colors? granted they are kinda unneeded in heroes since its turn combat but its not something bad lol.

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Pawek_13 said:

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TD said:

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I don't really see any point in complaining about an option to color your troops since you can use the default ones if you so wish.

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Are tou sure that there is such an option?

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Stevie said:

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There isn't. This is a permanent feature. Gameplay tab doesn't show any option of the like.

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keldaur said:

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Because... reasons... Ashan...wow... Erwan....stuff...spiders.

Are you seriously calling it a "starcraft" thing ? What the actual snow. That comes from pretty much any game that tries to differentiate its players on a visual level. Like for example, the football match i play on wednesday with the pals where we use red and blue shirts. And i don't care that Erwan thinks he "copied" warcraft.

Jesus, you guys really like to complain about absolutely everything.

About player colours. Wow. I am just amazed.

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Stevie said:

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(...)Bad design ruining immersion that is not even optional.

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Hex said:

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Stevie said:

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(...)Bad design ruining immersion that is not even optional.

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I don't get why they've added it. Nobody asked for it. I'm seriously pissed right now.

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Pawek_13 said:

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Cleglaw on SC asked for it... a year ago. There are also 3 likes for that post, so it seems that there are people who wanted it.

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