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verriker
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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted May 05, 2016 10:10 AM |
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Elvin said:
don_komandorr's pic is a clear improvement  H7 art had many hit or miss moments.
I agree, it had many miss moments alright lol
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted May 05, 2016 10:14 AM |
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@Kimarous
*sigh*
You forgot about scenario maps from H5 too, especially these from Tribes of the East.
Ashan games and maps chronology
And while Trial by Fire will take place 5 years after H7 Ivan's campaign, a story told by Vilma "I was a NPC in MMX" Bjorndottir will take place some time before Ivan-Seamus Civil War.
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Bitula
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posted May 05, 2016 10:33 AM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Both h6 and h7 graphics were outsourced to Puppetworks.
Yes, therefore the correct entity to "hate-target" is UbiLimbPups I guess.
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kiryu133
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Highly illogical
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posted May 05, 2016 10:45 AM |
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Depends on if they made the artwork as well.
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Kimarous
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posted May 05, 2016 11:04 AM |
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Avonu said:
@Kimarous
*sigh*
You forgot about scenario maps from H5 too, especially these from Tribes of the East.
Ashan games and maps chronology
And while Trial by Fire will take place 5 years after H7 Ivan's campaign, a story told by Vilma "I was a NPC in MMX" Bjorndottir will take place some time before Ivan-Seamus Civil War.
For a setting they like to simplify to notions like "light" or "spiders", Ubi sure likes to make the timeline convoluted as all Sheogh. @_@
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted May 05, 2016 11:18 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
Depends on if they made the artwork as well.
Nah, ubilimb outsourced those to individual artists 
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kiryu133
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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted May 05, 2016 11:26 AM |
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LizardWarrior said:
Nah, ubilimb outsourced those to individual artists
...all of it? even unit concepts? I knew they didn't do the town screens but not doing their own units is just...
wow. no wonder the damn thing crashed and burned.
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LizardWarrior
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Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted May 05, 2016 01:28 PM |
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There were a lot of individual artists that worked for Ubishaft on heroes 6-7, most if not all were freelancers. So, Erwins: Spiders&Magic wasn't developed by a single monolithic developer, with its own 2d and 3d artists. Well, that shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, but it may be messy I suppose. And let's not forget the programming part, I may say that the quality of the artworks/models is good (not the designs, I suppose those are kept tight on a leash by our friend, Erwin), but I can't say the same about programming as it... well let's say it often has quadratic complexity and dangling pointers And they can't blame those on unreal engine as it is fairly optimized.
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted May 05, 2016 05:16 PM |
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So thankful for the Mods, they have no idea how to create original line ups.
Of course the rune priest is just another normal elite shooter like the Druid, zealot, lich, centaur, medusa and Mage.
Their strong elite is some kind of melee walker similar to the cavalier, basilisk rider. Minotaur, Bambi me rakasha. Probably with a crit bash ability lol
Can't wait for fortress to become fortress again 
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted May 05, 2016 05:21 PM |
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted May 05, 2016 05:21 PM |
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Edited by EnergyZ at 17:22, 05 May 2016.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted May 05, 2016 05:25 PM |
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I really can't complain about the lineup design. It is along the lines of precious cliches but, the units are better and basic and upgrade models have enough to be distinct between them. Also, they are not too much alike and there is diversity!!
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted May 05, 2016 05:27 PM |
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I think the lineup of fortress was quite expected (except for the hamster before steam screenshots).
But if they had not included some iconic creature, many people would have complained so they did not have much choice.
Generally I like the design and cannot wait for abilities!
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EnergyZ
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President of MM Wiki
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posted May 05, 2016 05:29 PM |
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Antalyan said:
But if they had not included some iconic creature, many people would have complained so they did not have much choice.
Iconic means it would be recognized by a lot of people and that it had appeared in many games before. Dwarves have just been in Heroes V and Might & Magic X, so saying it is "iconic" could be considered as a lie. Especially when Ubi, at all their products, write "buy this iconic hat from our latest game" or somesuch nonsense.
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verriker
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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted May 05, 2016 05:34 PM |
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Articun said:
The Valkyries ass is on fire
much as the terrible sales and reviews have lit a fire under Erwin's ass, it's all an expression metaphor mate lol
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted May 05, 2016 05:41 PM |
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But that isn't a Valkyrie! It's a dis 
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted May 05, 2016 05:47 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
Antalyan said:
But if they had not included some iconic creature, many people would have complained so they did not have much choice.
Iconic means it would be recognized by a lot of people and that it had appeared in many games before. Dwarves have just been in Heroes V and Might & Magic X, so saying it is "iconic" could be considered as a lie. Especially when Ubi, at all their products, write "buy this iconic hat from our latest game" or somesuch nonsense.
I think it is clear what you imagine as "iconic" in a dwarven faction.
Also there was not only H5 HoF & MMX but Ashan compendium book as well.
How many games do you need to call something "iconic"?
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posted May 05, 2016 05:48 PM |
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Articun said:
The Valkyries ass is on fire
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it: "My ass is on fire, my ass is on fire ... Oh, my God, they killed Kenny!"
On a more serious note:
YO, dog, you said there was too many dwarvs in the lineup, so we gaves you a dwarv with a rat's head on. Hope yo likes it!
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted May 05, 2016 06:01 PM |
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My thoughts about the lineup:
Defender: Classical dwarf unit. Would be incomplete without it.
Bear: Actually perfer this over the bear rider in H5.
Kobold: So cute! I will love it, squeeze it, and call it George! In all seriousness, I do think it's design is different and quite good.
Dis: What is Dis!? Seriosuly, what is a Dis? Anyway, I'm not enterly sure about this, but it might grow on me.
Rune priest: Certainly an inprovement from from H5. Have the feel of a cool warrior-mage rather than another magic user with a staff.
Lava Rhino... I mean elemental, Lava elemental: This is awesome. Can I ride it into battle?
Fire giant: Meh, not the best design. Not that I'm going to use it that much because...
Red Dragon: THIS DRAGON IS ON FIIIREEEYYY!!! Honestly, while the H5 Lava dragon was cool as hell, this is quite in it's league for the best dragon design of the entire series...
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted May 05, 2016 06:21 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
But, ah, aren't kobolds normally reptilian?
Are they? Every time I've seen a kobold in fiction (read: this, World of Warcraft, Sacred 2, and Quest for Glory 1), it has had a mammalian appearance.
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