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Elvin
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posted May 07, 2016 12:45 PM

With a fire-immune cabir, a fire-immune priest, a fire-immune rhinocerus and a fire-immune champion dealing half damage to each other, watching a fight between fortress armies is gonna be a delight

What a silly design in a game where t4 armageddon or more or less guaranteed. I'm not talking about the cabir but the liberal use of fire immunity in general. Not only unimaginative but also bad for gameplay.
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ChrisD1
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posted May 07, 2016 12:48 PM

do we know for sure half of the fortress line up is fire immune? pfft we ll mod the cabir's ability so what?

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EnergyZ
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posted May 07, 2016 02:52 PM

Heligrin said:

Try to return Gremlins, maybe?


It has a problem with copyright, hence why cabirs were introduced and used instead.

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The_green_drag
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posted May 07, 2016 03:28 PM

I'm thinkin the picture with the Knights are gonna be some kind of black/death Knights, judging by the giant skull on their axe.

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LizardWarrior
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posted May 07, 2016 03:30 PM

EnergyZ said:
Heligrin said:

Try to return Gremlins, maybe?


It has a problem with copyright, hence why cabirs were introduced and used instead.


I doubt it's about copyright.

wikipedia said:
  The term "gremlin" denoting a mischievous creature that sabotages aircraft, originates inRoyal Air Force (RAF) slang in the 1920s among the British pilots stationed in Malta,the Middle East, and India, with the earliest recorded printed use being in a poem published in the journal Aeroplane in Malta on 10 April 1929.[2][3] Later sources have sometimes claimed that the concept goes back to World War I, but there is no print evidence of this.[1][N 1]

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EnergyZ
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posted May 07, 2016 04:13 PM

Fairly certain it was said due to copyright with that movie. Or, at least, that's what I have been told.
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Elvin
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posted May 07, 2016 04:27 PM

Why, do they have a copyright of the very term? Doubtful.
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darkem
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posted May 07, 2016 04:40 PM

As far as I know, it's not about the name. It's because of the designs.

Gremlins the movie:


Heroes 5:


The resemblance is uncanny. Some companies protect everything even remotely connected with their creations and since we talk about entertainment company... Overprotection at its finest.

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EnergyZ
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posted May 07, 2016 04:40 PM

No, but it's because of the design, if I understood correctly. It's not properly explained.
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Elvin
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posted May 07, 2016 04:45 PM

So? H3 gremlins looked nothing like that. And heroes artwork has changed to a large degree since H5 as many things were not set in stone at the time. They could easily change the design if they wanted to.
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Articun
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posted May 07, 2016 04:54 PM

So, wait a second. You are saying that the licencing problem with the name Gremlin was because of the design they made in the fifth installment and not because the creature itself was patented?

I mean, we know that the name beholder as well as something resembling the traditional look of that unit cannot exist outside the D&D universe as well as the Hobbit and the LOTR universe and i thought something similar was true for the Gremlin as well.

So, in the end, it is because of the design and not the name that Gremlins are not in the game now?

Also, i would much more appreciate some resistances than total immunities in any faction.

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EnergyZ
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posted May 07, 2016 05:10 PM

Elvin said:
So? H3 gremlins looked nothing like that. And heroes artwork has changed to a large degree since H5 as many things were not set in stone at the time. They could easily change the design if they wanted to.


As I said, I don't exactly remember the details. Could be that's just the belief and the real reason is not explained.
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verriker
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posted May 07, 2016 05:59 PM

EnergyZ said:
As I said, I don't exactly remember the details. Could be that's just the belief and the real reason is not explained.


no it was only changed because of Erwin pedantry,

first they were forced to redesign the creature to apologise for their plagiarism in Heroes 5, then Team Erwin decided hey they can't possibly be gremlins because they don't look like gremlins and gremlins are supposed to sabotage machines not repair them (lol sigh lol), so they tried to rename it to cabeiri,
except because Team Erwin is illiterate and cannot spell it was butchered to cabir, then after all that they added in lore that cabirs are called gremlins in Ashcan because they are clumsy despite not naming the creature gremlin, it is like a sketch from the Three Stooges if you ask me lol
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Articun
Articun


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posted May 07, 2016 06:15 PM

Well, worst case scenario, an imported cabeiri that is more brownish or greyish and has cosmetic changes to it and more of a slave outfit can be moved to Academy and renamed as gremlins and the normal Cabir we have now in the game can replace the kobold and get new abilities.


Kobold problem fixed

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Antalyan
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posted May 07, 2016 06:36 PM

Cabir is much cuter than gremlin
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kiryu133
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posted May 07, 2016 07:00 PM

Cabir > Gremlin

just sayin'

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Articun
Articun


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posted May 07, 2016 07:08 PM

Let's skip to the part where i am proposing a reskin of cabir, making a cousin of it for academy...

Viva la Might and Magic:Heroes cute d'état

Let's make everything cute!!!!

Now here you go a little Pegasus for Sylvan

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EnergyZ
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posted May 07, 2016 07:16 PM

My eyes are bleeding. This is supposed to be about war, not a fashion show, to have "cute" things in the armies.
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Elvin
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posted May 07, 2016 07:58 PM

EnergyZ said:
My eyes are bleeding. This is supposed to be about war, not a fashion show.

Sorry, ubi didn't get the memo. Ashan is all about fashion!
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Jackson
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posted May 07, 2016 08:08 PM

It's an Ashan fashion attraction.

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