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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 02, 2016 03:38 PM |
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Ofc they do.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted August 02, 2016 03:48 PM |
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Runic Magic is not their racial skill? Oo
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 04:11 PM |
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted August 02, 2016 05:56 PM |
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 06:05 PM |
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I wouldn't blame Ubisoft entirely for this mess, Limbic seem like an inexperienced crew.
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Aionb
Known Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 06:12 PM |
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I don't know what makes you think they are devastated or whatever. Judging by the answers that Oak guy gave you on steam, they are very relaxed and even willing to defend their ass, as always. So, stop dreaming, for once, please.
(Btw, for your information, the Hall of Fame feature was available in HoMM2, HoMM3 and HoMM4 as well, before being introduced in H5. Besides the H5 version of it was a crippled one, since the maps showed in the Hall of Fame were only a few; unlike the old games where every map you played counted in the Hall of Fame, be it vanilla map, random map or a downloaded map)
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted August 02, 2016 06:17 PM |
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Thanks for info, you know the relationship I - 2D Heroes games.
Ubisoft are the ones responsible for marketing and some main decisions. And they're the ones responsible for the things they should do and don't do. I don't think you can work on the game properly in few people, with even fewer budget and with the partner which does not do his part of the job (remind BH).
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 06:23 PM |
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Gryphs said:
They could write in a massive flying Erwin head if they wanted to, under one of their many bland blankets, it does not mean it is a good idea.
Which is why they arent. May I remind you that in was in the OldVerse were we got a pair of flying boots as an enemy 
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Knowing that gryphons come from a fusion thanks to blood rivers is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, and only destroys any guesses or mystery around them.
"Disliking that doesnt make it a bad thing lol."
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What? If you are talking about the reboot to Ashan, then no, I do not believe they should have rebooted it. Staying in Axeoth would have been the best decision.
I wasnt asking, i was telling. The interplanetary scope of the oldVerse meant they wouldnt get rid of the luggage unless they blew up the pretty much everything and everyone we knew, which is effectively a reboot.
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The original formula is working, otherwise, no one would still be playing the old games till this day. H7 is not this formula, and everyone in this forum knows it, thanks to the great work from Ubilimbic. Would I be wrong if I say most people enjoying h7 are also h6 fans?
The old formula is stale and the ACTUAL reason for the nearly static lineups and factions all the time, not Ashan's "rules"
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 02, 2016 06:28 PM |
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Antalyan said:
Ubisoft are the ones responsible for marketing and some main decisions. And they're the ones responsible for the things they should do and don't do. I don't think you can work on the game properly in few people, with even fewer budget and with the partner which does not do his part of the job (remind BH).
it takes two to tango, and two thousand Ubilimb employees to change a lightbulb lol
not even gonna comment on round two of Ubilimb Oak's dimwitted platitudes at Steam, my energy is better spent filing tax returns lol
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 02, 2016 06:28 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
The old formula is stale and the ACTUAL reason for nearly static lineups and factions all the time.
I wasn't even mentioning lineups and factions but mechanics and you can find it stale all you want h3 is still the most played opus followed by h5 while h6 is dead and h7 stillborn.
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Selpen
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 10:54 PM |
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I think Trial by Fire will be free. That's the only logical explanation, why price is announced on release day 
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted August 02, 2016 11:01 PM |
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Trial by Fire feels like a metaphor. It looks like Limbic is seeing if they survive this release under the fire of all fans.
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Selpen
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 11:07 PM |
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PandaTar said:
Runic Magic is not their racial skill? Oo
They don't have racial skill at all.
https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/fortress-heroes
Racial skill should be written in main skills (it was like this in every hall of heroes blog post) , but it's not.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 02, 2016 11:15 PM |
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It just states major skills. Besides, you can see how much "Runic Magic" is mentioned a lot of times in that flavor text. It doesn't even make sense that one faction does not get a racial skill, while others do.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 02, 2016 11:58 PM |
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Galaad said:
I wasn't even mentioning lineups and factions
But thats what im talking about lol. So calm the snow up
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AnkVaati
Famous Hero
Nighonese National Front
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posted August 03, 2016 02:06 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
I wasnt asking, i was telling. The interplanetary scope of the oldVerse meant they wouldnt get rid of the luggage unless they blew up the pretty much everything and everyone we knew, which is effectively a reboot.
No, it's not. There's a continuity in the cultural character of the various alignments/towns. One that was broken with the introduction of an invasive crappy lore and race-based towns.
GenyaArikado said:
The old formula is stale and the ACTUAL reason for the nearly static lineups and factions all the time, not Ashan's "rules"
BS. See Heroes 2 or 4.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 03, 2016 04:45 AM |
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AnkVaati said:
No, it's not. There's a continuity in the cultural character of the various alignments/towns. One that was broken with the introduction of an invasive crappy lore and race-based towns.
Exactly. They wanted to get rid of that yet they couldnt. Not ubi's fault they didnt want to deal with that tangled mess.
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BS. See Heroes 2 or 4.
H2 was 20 years ago. H4 changes were for the most part limited to Chaos and Infernopolis (and in the later case, it was less "change" and more like "merging") and were recieved as well as a kick in the gonads. They're exceptions, not the rule (and by your logic Ashan has made bigger changes to lineups than them). Most recent proof is the megawhining at the manticore not being part of dungeon lineup
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 03, 2016 07:10 AM |
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Btw the way classes have been treated is pissing me off. Regarding fortress, we have..
Firebrander
Runelord
Engraver
How exactly can someone tell what each class is good at? Ok the first probably has fire which maybe makes it more offensive? Rune LORD probably has more management abilities as a lord? Or does that refer to his rune abilities? Can a subclass even have a better focus at the racial than the rest?
What a mess.. Everyone will remember them as aggressive/middle/defensive runelord anyway. Why should anyone bother memorizing arbitrary class names? With that in mind why not just have one class and give you an option on startup what your focus will be, with offensive focus making offense pop up more frequently than defensive etc. In the same vein why not pick 4 elements of your choice on startup, making them the only magic skills that will appear on your levelups.
If we're gonna bother memorizing classes, they should at least be advanced classes..
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agneslynd
Hired Hero
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posted August 03, 2016 07:52 AM |
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Elvin said:
If we're gonna bother memorizing classes, they should at least be advanced classes..
The same was true of MMXL that thought it was too cool for simple knights and clerics and of tertiary resources, because four varieties of made-up magical steel are so much better than conventional mercury and gems.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 03, 2016 08:47 AM |
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Elvin said:
Why should anyone bother memorizing arbitrary class names? With that in mind why not just have one class and give you an option on startup what your focus will be, with offensive focus making offense pop up more frequently than defensive etc.
Well, technically they kinda did once. Remember those names were probably made during H6 era, So at one point they were both subheroes and one of those was tears (defensive) and the other blood (offensive) 
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