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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 21, 2014 10:27 AM |
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What sort of surprises me, also when one looks at the Heroes Online art vs. ingame screens, is that apparantly it's so difficult to transform the concept art into actual in-game screen-art. Can that really be true - is it SO difficult to keep the style and quality from the concepts in the actual end product?
I know it must add some challenge that we need not only the final art but to be able to add buildings one after another (i.e. there needs to be made art for what's "behind" them also, but still, in my perhaps somewhat naive conception of how things work, that shouldn't be *that* difficult ... but maybe I'm just clueless?
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What will happen now?
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xalakis
Tavern Dweller
lost in the aftermath..
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posted August 21, 2014 10:51 AM |
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good day to all, old school heroes player, just my 2 cents:
that was a demo. nothing more. creators make demos to get feedback. we all contribute to that feedback by commenting here, whether it be nice or not nice commentary. I assume Limbic is trying very hard to satisfy 2 types of players:
1. old school, who have something from their memories to compare, they pay the product and try to be .. civilized commenting
2. newly gamers, age <=19, who tend to today's trend of 2-months-per-game-then-uninstall-it, mainly download stuff not buy and don't mind leave brutal comments.
It is hard. not all will be satisfied. but if f.e. 25% dislikes, they will listen to the 75% who likes.
I play HoM&M series since 1996, and keep playing till another title comes out. I only have little time now with H6 due to work, but still enjoy play by myself offline, or with a friend in hotseat. I still buy H products, because otherwise it will be cancelled. I kindly request creators to make it worth buying. thank you.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 21, 2014 10:53 AM |
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xalakis said:
I kindly request creators to make it worth buying. thank you.
I second that motion.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted August 21, 2014 11:00 AM |
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Avirosb said:
xalakis said:
I kindly request creators to make it worth buying. thank you.
I second that motion.
As do I and everyone on this and other fora.
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Vote El Presidente! Or Else!
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ShereKhaan
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 21, 2014 11:13 AM |
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The only thing I dread is following this game for another 9 months, get a years delay and then be bitterly disappointed in the result. I played 6 less than any other edition.
It sounds promising so far except for the votes; that immediately made me feel a little uneasy. Fans don't design games, they are usually drawn to someone's talent and vision.
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VOKIALBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted August 21, 2014 11:53 AM |
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Quote:
Actually I think the Haven TS looks bad, very bad
Why? it deos not look alive!
That's huge problem. 2D screens from previous games were more alive then this. Even the H6 TS was a bit better imo.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted August 21, 2014 12:11 PM |
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I am pretty positive at least about Town Screens. I think that they are gonna be better than this and definitely will look better than H6 and H4.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted August 21, 2014 12:13 PM |
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Haven's town screen isn't bad, Academy seems to have bigger problems. I am sure that Limbic knows about all of them, but they just have no resources/money/Ubi orders to change it.
I like both versions of townscreens we've seen so far in Heroes saga. 2D is nice, 3D is nice... This time Ubi want to "give" (sell) us townscreen inferior to the main menu background picture... Why? Why can't they make something as climatic and accurate to unit's design as this:
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 21, 2014 01:07 PM |
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Yeah, I second to that. The arts above are better then those concepts from H7, yet they should be lightened up a bit, cause it's hard to see any distinct buildings...
Those H7 concepts are nice and all, but look way cheaper then those above...
PS: Bleh, in the upper right corner we can see that irritating Conflux icon. Please, no more...
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted August 21, 2014 01:27 PM |
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Is this a townscreen thread or general discussion thread? 
Stevie said:
I don't know if anyone noticed, but Righteousness is Haven's faction ability - static14.cdn.ubi.com/mmh7/prod/images/units/haven/haven_faction_ability.png. That's why the horseman and swordbearer had 2 consecutive turns in the IGN video. It might be that the other factions have morale working differently for them.
I don't think this is Haven's ability, it is just saying that Morale of Haven troops would be higher in stats than other factions...
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 21, 2014 01:35 PM |
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That's how they named the .png, it worked with the others so I don't see why this would be an exception.
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Neovius
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 21, 2014 02:07 PM |
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I think the town screens would look a lot beter if they added ambient occlusion styled shadows where the buildings touch the ground. Or made the buildings have the same brightness as the scene (look at the tavern on the left side of the stairs).
Right now it looks like they drew those building separately without the background in mind and then just pasted it there.
Anyway, I like the direction they are taking with the town screens.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted August 21, 2014 02:09 PM |
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I've always liked the Heroes 1 screens that had the units visible around their dwellings. It added charm to the town screens.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 21, 2014 02:14 PM |
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Neovius said:
Right now it looks like they drew those building separately without the background in mind and then just pasted it there.
That's what they did in H6, and some of them looked sooo bad in screenshots
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xalakis
Tavern Dweller
lost in the aftermath..
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posted August 21, 2014 02:19 PM |
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Copying-pasting a ready made image is easy, you just have to take into account the perspective. That is, make everything in a scale 1:1, then create your collage using minimized icons when necessary. That way details are maintained, and it is easy modified from the prototype. I think that's why the demo has heroes same size as buildings in Adventure map, as first try.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 21, 2014 02:54 PM |
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xalakis said:
good day to all, old school heroes player, just my 2 cents:
that was a demo. nothing more. creators make demos to get feedback. we all contribute to that feedback by commenting here, whether it be nice or not nice commentary. I assume Limbic is trying very hard to satisfy 2 types of players:
1. old school, who have something from their memories to compare, they pay the product and try to be .. civilized commenting
2. newly gamers, age <=19, who tend to today's trend of 2-months-per-game-then-uninstall-it, mainly download stuff not buy and don't mind leave brutal comments.
It is hard. not all will be satisfied. but if f.e. 25% dislikes, they will listen to the 75% who likes.
I play HoM&M series since 1996, and keep playing till another title comes out. I only have little time now with H6 due to work, but still enjoy play by myself offline, or with a friend in hotseat. I still buy H products, because otherwise it will be cancelled. I kindly request creators to make it worth buying. thank you.
There's a healthy attitude.
Kalwshlthes 
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 21, 2014 04:03 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
I excepted a more medieval town, less light, wooden houses and darker stone, a more Germanic Haven.
I agree, especially when you see Wolves and Swordbearers in the line-up, something darker is expected 
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted August 21, 2014 04:30 PM |
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My younger sister's (she is also fond of HoMM, especially fifth part) to the info that there are no 3D town screens: "Oh, come on! Not again!"
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yogi
Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
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posted August 21, 2014 05:21 PM |
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 21, 2014 07:46 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 20:09, 21 Aug 2014.
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Quick, discuss something else!
EDIT: So now that wolves are part of the Haven lineup,
do you think Griffins will take their place as neutral creatures?
If they're not at all in this game it would be a first.
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
