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Gryphs
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The Clever Title
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posted March 24, 2015 08:35 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 20:36, 24 Mar 2015.
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Avonu said: "taking human body as host for angel's soul"
Where do these souls originate?
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Stevie
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posted March 24, 2015 08:35 PM |
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted March 24, 2015 08:40 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 20:41, 24 Mar 2015.
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Right... but also archangels (as Michael which soul lived again in Pavel's body). You can say that Celestials were angels and humans children (from a certain point of view ).
Gryphs said: Where do these souls originate?
These were souls of decased angels trapped and "storage" in Angel's Hall of Memories.
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Sandro400
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posted March 24, 2015 08:40 PM |
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Gryphs said: Where do these souls originate?
From Hall of Memories. Angels captured the souls of their warriors who fell in Elder Wars.
About Angels' reproduction:
What is important to keep in mind is that Angels are not humans, they don’t reproduce like humans do. It’s much more mystical. Imagine they are created from rays of light or pure energy. So they do not need a body, an existing body actually. The Celestials are created by fusing the soul of a deceased angel, an angel that was killed during the Elder Wars, and the soul of a human. By merging these two souls they create a new being that has both memories, but the Angel is the dominant personality. Of course, not all human souls are strong enough for the merger. That is why the Angels created the Seven Swords of Virtue and gave them to imperial and ducal dynasties of the Holy Empire, to prepare them for merging with the ancient angelic souls.
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verriker
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posted March 24, 2015 08:41 PM |
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Edited by verriker at 20:58, 24 Mar 2015.
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the beastmen are *not* sterile, by the way, right? again not to be tasteless lol, but if the wizards can merge animals with humans and create a viable race, why wouldn't they be able to do something similar with the god races?
edit, actually they already went even beyond just combining the elemental god races lol, because they fused Sylath humans and Urgash demons to create the orcs
don't see any reason why they couldn't artificially cure the sterility of half-elves and other such combinations lol
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kobalt
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posted March 24, 2015 08:41 PM |
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@Sandro4000: Thanks for the high vote Seeing that I'm a nood in the matter I'll try to find out how the Altar works! Thanks for the heads-up
@LizardWarrior and Stevie: Thanks a lot guys, far fetched but I hope so too!
@kiryu133: it kinda' supposed to be a mess because of the torment those poor guys endure but I get what you're saying. Thanks!
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kiryu133
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posted March 24, 2015 08:45 PM |
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why are there angels with boobs? i mean if they don't reproduce like humans do, what would the point of those be?
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Avonu
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posted March 24, 2015 08:46 PM |
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fanservice
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Sandro400
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posted March 24, 2015 08:48 PM |
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Avonu said: Right... but also archangels (as Michael which soul lived again in Pavel's body).
Michael was explicitly stated to be a Celestial somewhere in H6.
Archangel is most likely a title among angels, not a "biological" type. Like "Archlich".
kiryu133 said: why are there angels with boobs? i mean if they don't reproduce like humans do, what would the point of those be?
It doesn't mean Angels' type of reproduction doesn't involve both sexes.
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Stevie
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posted March 24, 2015 08:57 PM |
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kiryu133
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posted March 24, 2015 08:57 PM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 20:59, 24 Mar 2015.
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Avonu said: fanservice
of course...
still the least fan-servicey race so far.
Sandro400 said: It doesn't mean Angels' type of reproduction doesn't involve both sexes.
true, but it doesn't seem like it. seems like they don't have genders at all but they get assigned one anyway
Stevie said: Instead of talking about specializations, we're talking about reproduction and boobs
purely scientifically, i assure you.
besides there is a separate thread for that.
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Sandro400
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posted March 24, 2015 08:58 PM |
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Stevie said: Instead of talking about specializations, we're talking about reproduction and boobs
Specs have their own thread which got new posts recently
kiryu133 said:
true, but it doesn't seem like it. seems like they don't have genders at all but they get assigned one anyway
Yeah, you have a point. Such things need to be clarified by "loremasters", for now we can only build theories.
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Marzhin
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posted March 24, 2015 09:04 PM |
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Edited by Marzhin at 21:07, 24 Mar 2015.
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verriker said: the beastmen are *not* sterile, by the way, right? again not to be tasteless lol, but if the wizards can merge animals with humans and create a viable race, why wouldn't they be able to do something similar with the god races?
Beastmen and Orcs are still, as far as biology goes, Humans that have been "spliced" with animal or Demon DNA, if you like, by recreating the same kind of phenomenon that gave birth to hybrid creatures like Griffins.
I'm pretty sure Wizards could use a similar process to create Elfmen or Nagamen if they wanted, but these other races would probably have objections to that. Animals don't. As for Demons, nobody asked their opinion.
In any case, the end result would not be a "Half-Elf" or "Half-Naga", but a Human spliced with Elf or Naga characteristics.
kiryu133 said: why are there angels with boobs? i mean if they don't reproduce like humans do, what would the point of those be?
As explained in the Compendium, Angels' appearance are based on whoever is looking at them, and they will always have the features of an attractive member of the beholder's race. We always use Human-looking Angels in the games for simplicity (after all, until proved otherwise, all our players are Humans ) but it can be assumed Elves see pretty Elvish features in Angels, while Dwarves see them as quite Dwarvish, etc.
Nonetheless, there are male Angels and female Angels and this does play a role in how they reproduce -- although which role exactly I do not know This is one of the big differences with the Faceless who are, as far as I know, genderless.
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Minion
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posted March 24, 2015 09:05 PM |
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Stevie said: Instead of talking about specializations, we're talking about reproduction and boobs
Relaxxx, this place has been so negative lately nice to hear some fun chatter for change
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Avonu
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posted March 24, 2015 09:07 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 21:08, 24 Mar 2015.
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Marzhin said: As explained in the Compendium, Angels' appearance are based on whoever is looking at them, and they will always have the features of an attractive member of the beholder's race. We always use Human-looking Angels in the games for simplicity (after all, until proved otherwise, all our players are Humans ) but it can be assumed Elves see pretty Elvish features in Angels, while Dwarves see them as quite Dwarvish, etc.
Then why you just don't call them Vorlons?
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War-overlord
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posted March 24, 2015 09:08 PM |
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Minion said: Relaxxx, this place has been so negative lately nice to hear some fun chatter for change
Hear, Hear.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted March 24, 2015 09:13 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 21:16, 24 Mar 2015.
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Marzhin said: I'm pretty sure Wizards could use a similar process to create Elfmen or Nagamen if they wanted, but these other races would probably have objections to that. Animals don't. As for Demons, nobody asked their opinion.
In any case, the end result would not be a "Half-Elf" or "Half-Naga", but a Human spliced with Elf or Naga characteristics.
I do not really know why the wizards would care or certain ones that is, but what I want to know is the difference between a human with spliced DNA and a half-creature they seem to be the same thing.
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kiryu133
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posted March 24, 2015 09:19 PM |
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Marzhin said:
Nonetheless, there are male Angels and female Angels and this does play a role in how they reproduce -- although which role exactly I do not know
but do they have babies? no babies = no need for boobs. this is important, damnit!
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Avonu
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posted March 24, 2015 09:20 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 21:22, 24 Mar 2015.
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kiryu133 said: but do they have babies? no babies = no need for boobs. this is important, damnit!
Yes, they have. Aurora was Uriel's and Michael's mother.
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Marzhin
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posted March 24, 2015 09:21 PM |
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Gryphs said: what is the difference between a human with spliced DNA and a half-creature.
Half-Breed => hybrid born from natural reproduction between members of two compatible Elder Races. Sterile (like a mule).
Orc/Beastman => Human magically "enhanced" with animal characteristics. But they are still mostly of a singular Elder Race (Human), so they can reproduce between themselves and with regular Humans, and transmit their genes to their descendants. But the originals had to be created artificially and would not have been possible through natural reproduction.
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