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Gryphs
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posted March 24, 2015 09:23 PM

So that means the wizards could create a half-elf species that could reproduce with itself and other humans.

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posted March 24, 2015 09:25 PM

Gryphs said:
So that means the wizards could create a half-elf species that could reproduce with itself and other humans.

Technically yes. But they would have a very, very hard time finding an Elf who's willing to help with that.
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kiryu133
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posted March 24, 2015 09:25 PM

Avonu said:

Yes. Aurora was Uriel's and Michael's mother


you know, that could mean anything in this context not super convincing. i mean, we have yet to see an angel child and since they are so different, i mean, not super convincing there sadly. though it is interesting (i was aware, just not thinking about it).

what does her role as "mother" actually mean? we never hear anything about a father.

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Marzhin
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posted March 24, 2015 09:25 PM

kiryu133 said:
but do they have babies? no babies = no need for boobs. this is important, damnit!


IMO that's, at least partially, part of the "looking like attractive members of the beholder's race" thing.

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LizardWarrior
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posted March 24, 2015 09:26 PM

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very, very hard time finding an Elf who's willing to help with that


so there are no hookers in Ashan? or at least very greedy people?

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Sandro400
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posted March 24, 2015 09:28 PM
Edited by Sandro400 at 21:31, 24 Mar 2015.

From Michael's bio:
Born to an Angel family of healers, Michael's destiny took flight in the opposite direction.
So I'm inclined to think that Aurora was his mother biologically.  

P.S.: imho it's quite possible that some imaginative wizards (Agar, I think of you) tried to create "half-elves", but lacked genetical material (mostly Elves themselves). Not that there were no elves at his disposal, but not a sufficient number to create a new race.
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posted March 24, 2015 09:30 PM

But why are angels and faceless more special than other elder races? Weren't all minor dragons equal or something?

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Marzhin
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posted March 24, 2015 09:30 PM

LizardWarrior said:
so there are no hookers in Ashan? or at least very greedy people?


Again, natural reproduction is not how it's done. When creating a Beastman the animal is destroyed in the process, so the Wizards would need suicidal people more than greedy ones. Or captives used against their will...

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posted March 24, 2015 09:31 PM

LizardWarrior said:
But why are angels and faceless more special than other elder races? Weren't all minor dragons equal or something?

Yes, all Dragons are Equall. But some Dragons are more Equall than others.
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Galaad
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posted March 24, 2015 09:32 PM

Sandro400 said:
Specs have their own thread which got new posts recently

I do not see the trouble with simultaneous discussions by different people going on.

Stevie said:
Instead of talking about specializations, we're talking about reproduction and boobs




I am not much fond of that Increases the production of spec. I like the creature affiliation, but look at the Heroes of Might and Magic III Iona or Thane typical example:

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Iona increases the Attack and Defense skills of any Genies or Master Genies she commands for each level she attains after the 5th level.


Thane has the exact same specialization.
And starts with Advanced level of scholar as only starting skill while Iona has it at basic level along another one.

Placeholders all the same.
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Sandro400
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posted March 24, 2015 09:39 PM

Galaad said:

I do not see the trouble with simultaneous discussions by different people going on.


Ofc, but I find no reason to say "why we don't discuss specs" when there's a different thread in which people already reply (me included).
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Sligneris
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posted March 24, 2015 09:44 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 21:47, 24 Mar 2015.

Marzhin said:
As explained in the Compendium, Angels' appearance are based on whoever is looking at them, and they will always have the features of an attractive member of the beholder's race.



Who in Heroes VI development team decided that this was attractive...?

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Avonu
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posted March 24, 2015 09:46 PM
Edited by Avonu at 21:47, 24 Mar 2015.

LizardWarrior said:
But why are angels and faceless more special than other elder races? Weren't all minor dragons equal or something?

Malassa and Elrath were two first Elemental Dragon who has hatched from Asha. I think they are not only more powerful then their younger siblings but also their associated races are more powerful - however their birth rate is lower then Elves, Naga, Dwarves and Humans.
And remember that at the begining of Ashan Ubisoft claimed that only Angels and Faceless were Elder Races. It was changed later to all six races.
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posted March 24, 2015 09:50 PM

Marzhin said:
Beastmen and Orcs are still, as far as biology goes, Humans that have been "spliced" with animal or Demon DNA, if you like, by recreating the same kind of phenomenon that gave birth to hybrid creatures like Griffins.
I'm pretty sure Wizards could use a similar process to create Elfmen or Nagamen if they wanted, but these other races would probably have objections to that. Animals don't. As for Demons, nobody asked their opinion.
In any case, the end result would not be a "Half-Elf" or "Half-Naga", but a Human spliced with Elf or Naga characteristics.


aha, OK so it's a morality issue, sounds a lot like that one episode of Star Trek Voyager lol
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kiryu133
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posted March 24, 2015 09:53 PM

actually, it's about ethics in gene-splicing
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MattII
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posted March 24, 2015 10:16 PM
Edited by MattII at 22:38, 24 Mar 2015.

Sligneris said:


Who in Heroes VI development team decided that this was attractive...?
Could we have that in a readable format please?

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Sligneris
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posted March 24, 2015 10:22 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 23:41, 24 Mar 2015.

What do you mean? The picture? That's simply a picture of Uriel.

Come to think of it, why didn’t angels seek help from elves, like they did with humans? Considering that elves would see them as beautiful members of their own race... I really wonder how they would react.

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Gryphs
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posted March 24, 2015 10:36 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 22:39, 24 Mar 2015.

Sligneris said:
Come to think of it, why didn’t angels seek help from elves, like they did with humans? Considering that elves would see them as beautiful members of their own race... I really wonder how would elves react.
It probably has something to do with the fact that humans were not united at that time.

Check that they were so I actually have no idea. The elves would seem to be a better option.

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MattII
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posted March 24, 2015 10:40 PM

Sligneris said:
What do you mean? The picture? That's simply a picture of Uriel.
My computer doesn't read .webp format, and cutting the address back to .jpeg doesn't bring anything up either. Failing that, where did you get the picture from?

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Marzhin
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posted March 24, 2015 10:49 PM

Gryphs said:
Check that they were so I actually have no idea. The elves would seem to be a better option.


Easy. Humans were easier to manipulate, especially as their god Ylath was pretty much leaving them to their own devices without giving them much guidance.

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