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nerevar
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 04:31 PM |
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Kurush said:
And that's what the spell teleport is for.
Something you may or may not get isn't an argument when discussing units - just as you don't build your strategy on possibly getting an Armageddon's blade from a tomb, you can't build it on hoping to get teleport.
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Actually they could even give them the ability to teleport.
In that case they could mention such a fact - for now we know for sure the dragon won't be a fast unit.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 13, 2014 04:35 PM |
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Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
This is actually more exciting than anticipated.
It is burning hot I'd say. I reverted to my first choice, Earth.
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 05:56 PM |
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C'mon, guys, we don't need another blue bird as a champion! Unicorns to the win!
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 06:03 PM |
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Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
This is actually more exciting than anticipated. Think imma.. grab some popcorn and read the drama in those comments 
you know what's more exciting? It's if you and everyone else here switch their votes to Sylvan's Fury!
- No root snakes! Snakes are for evil factions.
- No Phoenixes! Phoenix burn trees! No to tree burners!
- If you don't like Dryads and Pixies in one lineup, it's because you fear they might look the same. No. Dryads I think will look like trees while Pixies will look like, well, Pixies from H5.
Sylvan's Fury. Vote Wisely!
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 06:05 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
This is actually more exciting than anticipated. Think imma.. grab some popcorn and read the drama in those comments
you know what's more exciting? It's if you and everyone else here switch their votes to Sylvan's Fury!
- No root snakes! Snakes are for evil factions.
- No Phoenixes! Phoenix burn trees! No to tree burners!
- If you don't like Dryads and Pixies in one lineup, it's because you fear they might look the same. No. Dryads I think will look like trees while Pixies will look like, well, Pixies from H5.
Sylvan's Fury. Vote Wisely!
+1
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 06:08 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
This is actually more exciting than anticipated. Think imma.. grab some popcorn and read the drama in those comments
you know what's more exciting? It's if you and everyone else here switch their votes to Sylvan's Fury!
- No root snakes! Snakes are for evil factions.
- No Phoenixes! Phoenix burn trees! No to tree burners!
- If you don't like Dryads and Pixies in one lineup, it's because you fear they might look the same. No. Dryads I think will look like trees while Pixies will look like, well, Pixies from H5.
Sylvan's Fury. Vote Wisely!
-Nah, snakes (if done right) can be awesome
-Agree on this one
-Actually, I'm pretty sure pixies will look leaf-like (they are portrayed so in Compendium). Still different enough from dryads
All in all, I want to say only one thing... VOTE STRENGTH OF THE FOREST!!!
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 06:17 PM |
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No to snakes? why? Snakes are part of nature as well, and true elfs should be able to communicate/manipulate animals as they fit.
Let's not go with old stereotypes like " snakes are evil " and so on.
With that said, I don't recally care about Sylvan, but that reasoning is ridicilous to me.
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What makes a King? Some say it is a birthright, while others call it a destiny.
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted September 13, 2014 06:26 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
No to snakes? why? Snakes are part of nature as well, and true elfs should be able to communicate/manipulate animals as they fit.
They are only as much part of nature as Hydras or Basilk are, and you wouldn't want them anywhere near the elves cos they belong to dungeon.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 06:32 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
Sylvan's Fury. Vote Wisely!
Ok, I reversed it to Fury, since Balance is preserved again 
Seriously now, I'm only voting Fury because that's how Sylvan should be. Highly agile with a good damage output, but more frail and less focused on defense. The line-up in itself is not of particular interest to me because it's quite weak, but so are the others. So I can't vote based on that. Dryad + pixies = redundant; Dryad makes Treants the obvious champion choice; Blade Dancers above Archers in Tier feels a bit odd, but I can deal with that...
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 06:41 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 19:28, 13 Sep 2014.
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fuChris said:
Stormcaller said:
No to snakes? why? Snakes are part of nature as well, and true elfs should be able to communicate/manipulate animals as they fit.
They are only as much part of nature as Hydras or Basilk are, and you wouldn't want them anywhere near the elves cos they belong to dungeon.
Hydras aren't the things of the forest, they live in those caves/dungeons, which is the reason why Dark Elves tame them and why they belong to the Dungeon town.
Basilisks are in Dungeon? Haven't heard this one before.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 13, 2014 06:42 PM |
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Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
Meh, I can't for the life of me understand why you are so excited about the Balance line-up.
- No Unicorn
- Phoenix (Moonix) which is basically a replica of Magic Bird (lol) in Academy
- Treant guaranteed in line-up (which is fine) but it's the only line-up without the Dryad who has synergy with the Treant (wtf?)
It's just not a stellar solution at all for me.
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What will happen now?
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 13, 2014 06:53 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 18:54, 13 Sep 2014.
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JeremiahEmo said:
- No Phoenixes! Phoenix burn trees! No to tree burners!
JeremiahEmo said:
- If you don't like Dryads and Pixies in one lineup, it's because you fear they might look the same. No. Dryads I think will look like trees while Pixies will look like, well, Pixies from H5.
Can you for once read all topic before you post something? Pictures of Pixie and Dryad were showed more then once already. Here you have them again:
Pixie (spirit of flowers) and Dryad (forest spirit of dead Elf reborn inside of Treant)
 
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Protolisk
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 07:03 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
Meh, I can't for the life of me understand why you are so excited about the Balance line-up.
- No Unicorn
- Phoenix (Moonix) which is basically a replica of Magic Bird (lol) in Academy
- Treant guaranteed in line-up (which is fine) but it's the only line-up without the Dryad who has synergy with the Treant (wtf?)
It's just not a stellar solution at all for me.
It does however have
-Pixie, which is a much needed no-retaliation flyer
-Lack of Dryad, which seemingly only has use if you pick Treant as champion, so if Dragon was chosen, Dryads seem out of luck. (I do agree with your wtf. Why would the only time Treants are mandatory are their support gone?)
-Phoenix (moonix doesn't really matter, it's a resurrecting bird) as a flying champion, which the other choices don't have.
Although the phoenix would look similar to "Magic Bird" (is that really the final name? I doubt this, but if so, darn) it'd still be better than H5's Green/Shadow/Bone dragons looking extremely similar (I give Fire Dragon a pass because, wow, it didn't look like the other dragons. And it reminded me of Godzilla.)
I keep switching my vote between Balance and Strength. If they keep revealing stuff about each unit before the vote timer ends, I would feel so much better about voting. Voting without all the facts = a flawed vote.
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flonembourg
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 07:11 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
Meh, I can't for the life of me understand why you are so excited about the Balance line-up.
- No Unicorn
- Phoenix (Moonix) which is basically a replica of Magic Bird (lol) in Academy
- Treant guaranteed in line-up (which is fine) but it's the only line-up without the Dryad who has synergy with the Treant (wtf?)
It's just not a stellar solution at all for me.
1/No unicorn is not an argument... like no griffin in heaven
2/Phoenix "a replica of Magic Bird" we all know nothing about this statement
3/The fact that there is no synergy between Treant and dryad is the main reason i vote "Perfect balance", the other line up are just take all the time treant as champion because of Dryad abilities...
But the "strenght of the forest" in up seems also good if you ask me!
As i already said (but nobody read the posts here apparently, lazy guys )
THE WORST LINE UP EVER IS THE THIRD SYLANA FURY= NO IMAGINATION! Boring line up in the core part, and blade dancer as elite???? WTF??
And i'm happy to see it at 26%!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 07:12 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
Meh, I can't for the life of me understand why you are so excited about the Balance line-up.
- No Unicorn
- Phoenix (Moonix) which is basically a replica of Magic Bird (lol) in Academy
- Treant guaranteed in line-up (which is fine) but it's the only line-up without the Dryad who has synergy with the Treant (wtf?)
It's just not a stellar solution at all for me.
I'm not excited for neither of the options! But: Fury is what I think Sylvan is at its core, Balance is the lesser evil, and Strength is just at the opposite pole to me. Neither has a line-up that I'd like.
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flonembourg
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 07:12 PM |
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Protolisk said:
alcibiades said:
Stevie said:
Balance has the lead again, thank the heavens.
Meh, I can't for the life of me understand why you are so excited about the Balance line-up.
- No Unicorn
- Phoenix (Moonix) which is basically a replica of Magic Bird (lol) in Academy
- Treant guaranteed in line-up (which is fine) but it's the only line-up without the Dryad who has synergy with the Treant (wtf?)
It's just not a stellar solution at all for me.
It does however have
-Pixie, which is a much needed no-retaliation flyer
-Lack of Dryad, which seemingly only has use if you pick Treant as champion, so if Dragon was chosen, Dryads seem out of luck. (I do agree with your wtf. Why would the only time Treants are mandatory are their support gone?)
-Phoenix (moonix doesn't really matter, it's a resurrecting bird) as a flying champion, which the other choices don't have.
Although the phoenix would look similar to "Magic Bird" (is that really the final name? I doubt this, but if so, darn) it'd still be better than H5's Green/Shadow/Bone dragons looking extremely similar (I give Fire Dragon a pass because, wow, it didn't look like the other dragons. And it reminded me of Godzilla.)
I keep switching my vote between Balance and Strength. If they keep revealing stuff about each unit before the vote timer ends, I would feel so much better about voting. Voting without all the facts = a flawed vote.
+1
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted September 13, 2014 07:18 PM |
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Edited by fuChris at 19:31, 13 Sep 2014.
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It's been a day since the vote page is up and the different description of the emerald knights between strength and balance still hasn't been removed so it's safe to say it's not a typo. If this is true then it makes even less sence to put the strike and return in balace since it clearly should belong in the more defensive strength lineup.
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flonembourg
Known Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 07:36 PM |
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fuChris said:
It's been a day since the vote page is up and the different description of the emerald knights between strength and balance still hasn't been removed so it's safe to say it's not a typo. If this is true then it makes even less sence to put the strike and return in balace since it's clearly should belong in the more offensive strength lineup.
I don't see why a "strike and return" ability don't fit an offensive gameplay?
Do you remember dungeon and Blood Fury un H5?
Dungeon was an offensive faction and Blood fury was the most offensive unit ever with their huge initiative AND STRIKE AND RETURN ABILITY!
Besides i'll say Defensive and offensive Line up is a MIRAGE!
Heaven in H5 was meant to be a defensive faction but with few perks it turn out to be a very offensive faction!
Another example is Dungeon you upgrade Scout into Stalker, invisible ability for 3 turn defense, defense, defense for 3 turns and cast spell with your hero...
Similar Strategies with Hydra Defense, regeneration, cast spell good game.
My point is you can play ofensively or defensively with almost all factions depending on YOUR playstyle (not the playstyle imposed by Ubi).
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Protolisk
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 13, 2014 07:40 PM |
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fuChris said:
It's been a day since the vote page is up and the different description of the emerald knights between strength and balance still hasn't been removed so it's safe to say it's not a typo.
It also says under Sylanna's Fury that "The Champions are protected by Treants and Dryads working together, keeping them safe until their army prevails." If The champions are being protected by Treants, then... who protects the Champion protectors, who are the supposed Champion protectors?
In addition, I can't see why it's even worded the way it is. For one, it is "Strike and return damage dealer" which could be read as:
"(strike and return) damage dealer"
which makes sense. However, the other one is "Strike and retribution damage dealer", which is (presumed) to be read like this:
"([Strike] and [retribution damage]) dealer"
As if Strike and RetDmg are different things to be dealt.
How is one a "Strike dealer"? Aren't all units such things? What is the point of writing it this way? Its comically bad, syntactically.
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted September 13, 2014 07:43 PM |
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yeah I meant defensive
*edited post*
It's true that each lineup should or infact must be playable offensive and defensive as well, it's just that i'm now even more curious to see what kind of elf can pull off strike and return without a mount. It can hardly be like the H5 Fury since they were almost completely neaked and the name Emerald Warrior implys armor to me.
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