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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted September 15, 2014 11:59 PM |
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Protolisk
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Famous Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 12:27 AM |
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hammerhand
Hired Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 05:29 AM |
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Double_Trouble said:
Wellplay said: Its good middle has more slavic sounding than arabian or celtic i would say
However, since a lot of people relate this to academy rather that sylvan and hear arabic, it really doesnt matter if it's slavic, asian, african or whatever.. The feel is the most important thing.. And unfortuantely I (and many other people)just don't feel it being Sylvan like...
problem is pheonix was part of forest in homm1£¬2 and 4£¬ and no one had problem with it¡£pheonixes always live with pixies £¬near magic forest.
old homm players will never feel pheonix belonging to acedamy¡£
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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 16, 2014 06:37 AM |
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hammerhand said:
Double_Trouble said:
Wellplay said: Its good middle has more slavic sounding than arabian or celtic i would say
However, since a lot of people relate this to academy rather that sylvan and hear arabic, it really doesnt matter if it's slavic, asian, african or whatever.. The feel is the most important thing.. And unfortuantely I (and many other people)just don't feel it being Sylvan like...
problem is pheonix was part of forest in homm1£¬2 and 4£¬ and no one had problem with it¡£pheonixes always live with pixies £¬near magic forest.
old homm players will never feel pheonix belonging to acedamy¡£
Wrong... I think it fits their rather freaking well
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yogi
Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
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posted September 16, 2014 07:09 AM |
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Dave_Jame said:
hammerhand said:
old homm players will never feel pheonix belonging to acedamy¡£
Wrong... I think it fits their rather freaking well
same here.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted September 16, 2014 07:19 AM |
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I think root snake in core creature line-up will be overpowered. I imagine it is something like serpent flies from H3 fortress. Fast unit and formidable archer...no training wheels for sylvan again!
They should be equal to other factions not OP.
Moderator note: Political stereotypes has no relevance in this discussion, and offending people, be that specific people or general groups, is against the rules of the forum. Next time posts like this will be penalized.
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 07:39 AM |
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natalka said: I think root snake in core creature line-up will be overpowered. I imagine it is something like serpent flies from H3 fortress. Fast unit and formidable archer...no training wheels for sylvan again!
They should be equal to other factions not OP.
Um, how can a SNAKE ba an archer? It will just be a snake, and an awesome one at that.
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DoubleDeck
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Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted September 16, 2014 07:46 AM |
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Storm-Giant said:
ChrisD1 said: so you accept that golems and gargoyles are similar the way pixies and dryads are
I never said that. All I said is that Sprites & Dryads give me the same vibe, Golemns and Gargoyles not.
Maybe if you mix dryads and pixies together they can grow in symbiosis into a treant! Water feeding the leaf...
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 09:36 AM |
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hammerhand said:
Double_Trouble said:
Wellplay said: Its good middle has more slavic sounding than arabian or celtic i would say
However, since a lot of people relate this to academy rather that sylvan and hear arabic, it really doesnt matter if it's slavic, asian, african or whatever.. The feel is the most important thing.. And unfortuantely I (and many other people)just don't feel it being Sylvan like...
problem is pheonix was part of forest in homm1£¬2 and 4£¬ and no one had problem with it¡£pheonixes always live with pixies £¬near magic forest.
old homm players will never feel pheonix belonging to acedamy¡£
Because you know, that was old universe where factions were a thematic mixes of random creatures. Now that factions are closer to races, some things just doesn't make sense. Not because it doesn't make sense to us, but because Ubisoft is inconsistent with their choices and which units belong to which faction.
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MattII
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posted September 16, 2014 09:40 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 10:58, 16 Sep 2014.
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ChrisD1 said: why weren't we that nit picky about humanoid creatures before? what about academy? what about haven (well it's their faction) what about stronghold? i think this poll about the line up drove us all crazy. everyone did say everything there was to be said so lets just wait and see.
Some of us were that picky before, I remember there was a fair amount of discontent when the Dungeon lineup for H5 was released.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 09:50 AM |
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MattII said:
ChrisD1 said: why weren't we that nit picky about humanoid creatures before? what about academy? what about haven (well it's their faction) what about stronghold? i think this poll about the line up drove us all crazy. everyone did say everything there was to be said so lets just wait and see.
Some of us were that picky before, I remember there was a fair amount of discontent when the Dungeon lineup for H5 was released.
I wasn't around then, but i think that the fairy/dryad "similrity is blown out of proportion because of the voting.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 16, 2014 09:54 AM |
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ChrisD1 said: I wasn't around then, but i think that the fairy/dryad "similrity is blown out of proportion because of the voting.
Pffff. We don't need no stinkin' polls to blow things out of proportion. This is the internet, you know.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 09:56 AM |
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War-overlord said:
ChrisD1 said: I wasn't around then, but i think that the fairy/dryad "similrity is blown out of proportion because of the voting.
Pffff. We don't need no stinkin' polls to blow things out of proportion. This is the internet, you know.
damn it i keep forgetting that!!
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hammerhand
Hired Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:00 AM |
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RMZ1989 said:
hammerhand said:
Double_Trouble said:
Wellplay said: Its good middle has more slavic sounding than arabian or celtic i would say
However, since a lot of people relate this to academy rather that sylvan and hear arabic, it really doesnt matter if it's slavic, asian, african or whatever.. The feel is the most important thing.. And unfortuantely I (and many other people)just don't feel it being Sylvan like...
problem is pheonix was part of forest in homm1£¬2 and 4£¬ and no one had problem with it¡£pheonixes always live with pixies £¬near magic forest.
old homm players will never feel pheonix belonging to acedamy¡£
Because you know, that was old universe where factions were a thematic mixes of random creatures. Now that factions are closer to races, some things just doesn't make sense. Not because it doesn't make sense to us, but because Ubisoft is inconsistent with their choices and which units belong to which faction.
but you can't say elves and pheonix can not in one race. ubisoft never said that, they put pheonix in balance not to tell you guys don't choose balance, they don't think it is wrong.
and pheonixes in many culture can belong to forests too, slavic£¬Chinese, etc.in chinese myth, pheonixes dwell on a giant sacred tree.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:03 AM |
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RMZ1989 said:
Because you know, that was old universe where factions were a thematic mixes of random creatures. Now that factions are closer to races, some things just doesn't make sense. Not because it doesn't make sense to us, but because Ubisoft is inconsistent with their choices and which units belong to which faction.
Exactly this.
Phoenix obviously doesn't work with Elves. The only reason for it getting included is because of fans' nostalgia for that particular creature. Besides that, nothing. It doesn't fit the faction nor it's lore in the slightest. I think they would fit very well with Academy myself, but even better had as neutral creatures. But not with Elves, that's just retarded.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted September 16, 2014 10:10 AM |
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i voted for strenght, but as the things are going
i'd rather have balance instead of fury
hiya phoenix
welcome back to nature faction )
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:16 AM |
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Used to be a forest where the Phoenix stands.
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Alex_Yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:19 AM |
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Stevie said: Used to be a forest where the Phoenix stands.
Well, yeah, every forest needs a good fire once in a while, otherwise new saplings wouldn't grow due to the shadow of big trees, and the forest would die Besides, ashes are good fertilizers
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hammerhand
Hired Hero
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posted September 16, 2014 10:43 AM |
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D. H. Lawrence frequently used the phoenix as a symbol for rebirth in life. The Cambridge Edition of the Letters and Works of D. H. Lawrence carries the motif on its covers.
In Robert E. Howard's tale of King Conan of Aquilonia, "The Phoenix on the Sword", the supernatural scribe Epimetreus inscribes a mystical Phoenix symbol on the blade of Conan's broadsword, to aid against a supernatural enemy.
Edith Nesbit's famous children's novel, The Phoenix and the Carpet is based on this legendary creature and its friendship with a family of children..and it didn't burn their house.
In C. S. Lewis' book, The Magician's Nephew, a phoenix guards an Eden-like garden. It also appears later in The Last Battle.
J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter novels feature a phoenix, named Fawkes.[4] In Harry Potter's world, phoenixes can carry enormous weights, and their song is said to strike fear into the hearts of the impure and courage into those who are pure of heart. The tears of the phoenix can heal severe poisoning, and other illnesses and injuries. The presence of a phoenix reinforces the underlying theme of overcoming death by embracing life found throughout the series, and many of the traits of the phoenix follow closely with the myth.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 16, 2014 10:45 AM |
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Stevie said: Exactly this.
Phoenix obviously doesn't work with Elves. The only reason for it getting included is because of fans' nostalgia for that particular creature. Besides that, nothing. It doesn't fit the faction nor it's lore in the slightest. I think they would fit very well with Academy myself, but even better had as neutral creatures. But not with Elves, that's just retarded.
It does actually, as has been stated before. You just choose to discard it because it does not match your opinion.
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