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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

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Fox or Chicken?
posted February 09, 2015 10:57 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 23:05, 09 Feb 2015.

As a reminder to everyone in regards to pictures that contain text and posting in general:


2) NO bad language, profanity, vulgarity or swearing.
Correctly censored vulgar words may be used, but not for insults, abuse, racism, sexism, provocation or aggravation.
Correct censoring means replacing all letters in the vulgar words with asterisks by holding the SHIFT key and pressing the number 8 key (US keyboards). For example: when **** hit the fan. Any other method of censoring vulgar words partially or entirely will be considered incorrect censoring and may be penalized. Actual or misspelled vulgar words will be penalized immediately.


I am not going to be throwing out penalties for any infractions before this post and will give everyone an opportunity to correct any infractions.  This is just a reminder that we have certain guidelines in regards to pictures.  If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to HCM me about it.
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cleglaw
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posted February 09, 2015 11:53 PM

Stevie said:






thats hilarious, turkish music is new trend now?

remind me of sylvan theme haha, open up some raký!

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 10, 2015 12:35 PM

Lol. Of course, the horror theme strings in the mix sound awfully out of place to my ears.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted February 10, 2015 12:43 PM
Edited by Avonu at 12:46, 10 Feb 2015.

Zombi_Wizzard said:
Gee ... I wonder which one of these:

Does NOT belong?

Also take a challange! Show this to someone who does not know HoMM very well ... like your mother or sister or your elderly neighbour, and ask him/her/it - Which one of these is NOT from WoW ?

That should clarify the similarities


All of them are not from WoW.


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cleglaw
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posted February 10, 2015 12:48 PM

warhammer vampires look badass imho, copying from them would be better, cause you know at least they look fearsome. fearsome face+red color!

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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted February 10, 2015 12:50 PM
Edited by Avonu at 12:56, 10 Feb 2015.

Well... Ubival copied a lot of H5's arts from Wahammer already - it didn't go very well for Ubioft.

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Stevie
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posted February 10, 2015 12:51 PM
Edited by Stevie at 12:51, 10 Feb 2015.

Does it look like the H5 vampire model is that different from the Heroes 6 one?

How come other series nail Vampires so perfectly and only Ubisoft can't do it?
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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted February 10, 2015 12:57 PM

All the best looks got calld "dibs" on by someone else first?

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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted February 10, 2015 12:57 PM
Edited by Avonu at 12:59, 10 Feb 2015.

Stevie said:
How come other series nail Vampires so perfectly and only Ubisoft can't do it?


Well... there is always "Twilight"...

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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted February 10, 2015 01:15 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:26, 10 Feb 2015.

You know the drill. 4 girls come to a concert. First everybody wants the well dressed aristocratic goth girl. Then the eccentric rock girl with lots of spikes and torn jeans takes the attention. Then, when the guys get brave enough, they talk to the cute anime nerd girl in stockings and a maid dress. And Ubi got stuck with their socially awkward friend, whose outfit is made from things borrowed from her 3 friends.

Bur yea, better than twilight, it got the obnoxious vegan girl who will talk all night about how your belt was once a cute animal and stop you from eating that burger.

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War-overlord
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posted February 10, 2015 01:17 PM

@ Dave:
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
posted February 10, 2015 02:05 PM


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Stevie
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posted February 10, 2015 02:06 PM
Edited by Stevie at 14:08, 10 Feb 2015.

Is that how you really see it? I don't. Ubi didn't get stuck with anything, they just tried to reinvent the wheel when no one asked for it.

Look, no one blames them from trying to be "original", the problem is that in pursuing that they became blind to the main point: creating a VAMPIRE. That's what people complain about. That thing they did there not only it's not original (Warcraft, WH, W/e) but it's also not a Vampire. When I showed it to my mom, she said it's a "knight with sword".

There are certain features people expect from a creature. With a Vampire they want to get a sanguinary appearance, claws, fangs, black/red capes with large collars and a malevolent stare, not a poker faced supermodel wielding a sword.

Heroes was supposed to be a game where you would play with mythological creatures and monsters from tales. Now it's become a cheap mainstream bullsnow. Vampires drink vials of green venom instead of cups of blood. They teleport instead of becoming shades or bats to travel. Yea, brilliant. As I said, you don't reinvent the wheel when there's no need to.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted February 10, 2015 02:10 PM
Edited by Avonu at 14:15, 10 Feb 2015.

Vampires still drink blood, they just have other reason to do that.

About turning into the bats - it's not trait of all vampires, same as turning into mist or command on animals or hypnose are also sometimes absent. Same as very lot of others traits (check various wikis for more informations).

There isn't one, true vampire archetype: some die from water, sun or silver (yeah, right ), others are immune for these and wooden stake in heart only slow there down a little.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
posted February 10, 2015 02:14 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 14:15, 10 Feb 2015.

When it comes right down to it, vampires as a concept are pretty drat stupid.
Still, Ubi isn't helping.

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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
posted February 10, 2015 02:20 PM

As concept, yes, but there is an interesting part in their origin: from Cain/Judas, through differences between ancient necromacers, to pact with the devil after losing your wife... and there is aging backward and being a lich ealier.
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Stevie
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posted February 10, 2015 02:27 PM

There are vampire archetypes that work. Warcraft Death Knight isn't one of them.
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Zenofex
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Kreegan-atheist
posted February 10, 2015 03:18 PM

Replacing the overcompensating sword with an actual weapon will be a good start.

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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted February 10, 2015 03:57 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 16:03, 10 Feb 2015.

Warcraft Death Knight concept does not work as a vampire because ... Warcraft death knight is not a vampire. In Warcraft lore this is a "vampire":

Should they atleast base Vampire on this guy it would work much better imo (minus the horns). IF they are so bent on copying Warcraft.

Indeed, not only did Ubi copy WoW, they copied it wrong on top of that.

How can you mess up that?

Or ... you know ... try to come up with your own Vampire design? Maybe that would work, but I'm not expert. That said, I still actualy like overall look of H7 (I like Warcraft look aswell so...), and I can overlook this things, if atleast game is good. But you know. Room for improvement exists ... I won't deny.

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GenyaArikado
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posted February 10, 2015 05:14 PM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 17:18, 10 Feb 2015.

Actually these

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/evilknick/WoW/sanlayn_zps3fce04a6.jpg

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