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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


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posted September 30, 2016 06:55 PM

I thought Ashan vamps are Arthas ripoff?
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Gryphs
Gryphs


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The Clever Title
posted September 30, 2016 06:55 PM

GenyaArikado said:
"vampire venom replacing their blood"
Well, yeah, HOMM used to be about mixing stereotypical fantasy creatures not Erwin's fantastic imaginary world.
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GenyaArikado
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posted September 30, 2016 11:48 PM

@Galaad by making them understandable? Lol

@Frosty idk but i have seen the "twilight ripoff vampire" here plenty. Probably regarding the entire race and not just the H6 unit

@Gryphs I know what you are doing but well, if you wanna get technical the twilight is the new sterotypical vampire....

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted October 01, 2016 12:00 AM

Added some spacing, looks fine to me.
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Momo
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posted October 01, 2016 02:13 AM

frostymuaddib said:
I thought Ashan vamps are Arthas ripoff?


Yeah, I mean honestly, they barely have anything in common with Twilight vampires. Though I've got to admit I'm not an expert in the field of Twilight.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted October 02, 2016 12:41 PM

Added Chronicles texts to the OP, thanks Zamfir.
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted January 04, 2017 02:29 PM

Added Antalyan's list of h6's campaign mission quotes to the OP, for those interested...
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AlHazin
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posted January 04, 2017 02:41 PM

Galaad said:
[...]for those interested...


Oh thanks Galaad, I'll take a look at it.
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted January 05, 2017 05:29 PM

You?
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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


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posted February 03, 2017 09:21 PM

EnergyZ said:
Yeah, but these stories were finished. All what it took was just to use the editor and make the maps, right?


I know this was posted a while back, but as it seems neither Frosty or Verriker, posted anything about it, I thought I might as well do it. A group of fans are planning to make those two campaigns (Unity and Every Dog has it's Day) for H4.

verriker said:
these campaigns were cut because they didn't play very well and they ran out of spare time to improve them lol

Bullard said:
We did have them planned as campaigns, but started to run out of time and had to cut them. If I remember correctly they were supposed to be a love story.


Bullard said:
At the end of the development cycle when we start running out of time we have to cut maps. The decision is usually based on how well the map plays and then how much time it would take to fix. Those two maps didn't play well and we needed to cut them to polish the main story maps.



Interesting, that it appears they had in fact made them as campaigns, but had to cut them..

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Sligneris
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posted April 04, 2017 02:14 AM
Edited by Sligneris at 16:38, 04 Apr 2017.

One thing that's somewhat confusing me as far as Ashan lore goes is a simple question - to what extent can succubi camouflage themselves?

From H6 onward, it appears that while camouflage is their natural ability, the only appearance they are able to take is that of their former selves. In contrast, in H5, Biara is seen taking numerous forms, more akin to a Faceless - Beatrice, Shadya, Isabel. One of which required a piece of the original person's soul to be stored in a temple in order to sustain the illusion, mind you.

Has there been any explanation regarding this ability that I had missed? I mean, there definitely wasn't any in H5, but it wouldn't be the first time when new material puts some stuff from H5 into some much needed context - so any input there would be welcome.

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Avonu
Avonu


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Embracing light and darkness
posted April 04, 2017 12:38 PM

The Demon Sovereign, the Prophecy of Sar-Shazzar, and the Dark Messiah
By Jeff Spock, Writer, and Erwan Le Breton, World Coordinator


Quote:
in 951 YSD a child named Isabel, heir to the Greyhound duchy, grows up in ignorance of a Demon protector that lurks nearby.
Twenty years later, at the culmination of the eclipse that led to Queen Isabel's War, the queen herself is kidnapped and forced to bear a child to the Demon Sovereign. The child disappears to be raised for another twenty years under the protective eyes of Demon worshippers.

King Alexei's soul is stolen and in 971 YSD its power is used to bring a succubus to Ashan; a succubus named Biara who arrives at a moment when she can take the place of the true Isabel. The real queen remains lost in the wastes of Sheogh with her protector, Raelag...

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Elvin
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Tastes like chicken
posted April 04, 2017 12:44 PM

Biara had the power to ignore plot holes even without that special skill.
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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Age of erwins is over
posted April 04, 2017 12:45 PM

Hey, guys, what's an Ashan?
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Antalyan
Antalyan


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H7 Forever
posted April 04, 2017 05:23 PM

Sligneris said:
One thing that's somewhat confusing me as far as Ashan lore goes is a simple question - to what extent can succubi camouflage themselves?

From H6 onward, it appears that while camouflage is their natural ability, the only appearance they are able to take is that of their former selves. In contrast, in H5, Biara is seen taking numerous forms, more akin to a Faceless - Beatrice, Shadya, Isabel. One of which required a piece of the original person's soul to be stored in a temple in order to sustain the illusion, mind you.

Has there been any explanation regarding this ability that I had missed? I mean, there definitely wasn't any in H5, but it wouldn't be the first time when new material puts some stuff from H5 into some much needed context - so any input there would be welcome.

I suppose Biara had either special skills (really powerful even for succubi) or they have quite developed during the centuries.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Tastes like chicken
posted April 04, 2017 05:46 PM

Or Ashan had not developed enough at the time.
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Sligneris
Sligneris


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posted April 04, 2017 06:22 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 18:34, 04 Apr 2017.

Well, as much as I like modern references to H5, trying to look at H5 itself for canon material usually ends up only bringing some godawful writing and more confusion in return.

Like I mentioned earlier, Biara's ability probably had something to do with Isabel's spirit being kept in Flammschrein. Though how Isabel's body was walking among the living and communicating with people while lacking a soul is the confusing part. Did Raelag even realize he had a soulless, amnesiac husk as a partner?

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verriker
verriker


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Jonny Come Sometime
posted April 04, 2017 07:21 PM

Sligneris said:
body was walking among the living and communicating with people while lacking a soul is the confusing part


hey I remember you lol

how have you been, you were not around when Erwin's empire of dirt fell down cheers lol
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Sligneris
Sligneris


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posted April 05, 2017 12:10 AM

I figured I would check how the franchise and its community have been, with H7 and an expansion pack released and all.

Not much changed I see.

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AlHazin
AlHazin


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Tutto possibile
posted April 05, 2017 12:22 AM

Galaad said:
You?


Forgive the delay dude hahahaha

That was a joke by the way. ^^
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