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Thread: Vote for the Vampire design This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
verriker
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posted March 27, 2015 01:07 AM

GenyaArikado said:
With the exception of the lich and the reverse aging, neither did the old ones lol


wrong lol, Enrothian vampires were at least damaged by sunlight, could turn others into vampires, and needed to drink blood
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GenyaArikado
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posted March 27, 2015 01:55 AM

verriker said:
GenyaArikado said:
With the exception of the lich and the reverse aging, neither did the old ones lol


wrong lol, Enrothian vampires were at least damaged by sunlight, could turn others into vampires, and needed to drink blood


the sun damaged them? Where does it say that.

Idk if they can turn others, but their blood is Namtaru venom so they should. And they do drink blood.

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verriker
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posted March 27, 2015 02:18 AM

GenyaArikado said:
the sun damaged them? Where does it say that.


in Might and Magic 8, and Heroes 4
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GenyaArikado
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posted March 27, 2015 02:25 AM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 02:28, 27 Mar 2015.

Ah ok.

Ahh, MM8, dat amazing game i never played with sword (among other weapons) wielding pretty vampires dressed in red spiderwebs

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Dave_Jame
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posted March 27, 2015 04:18 AM

And Actually also in M&M 7. There we had one of the most aristocratic looking one.

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posted March 27, 2015 07:37 AM

Dave_Jame said:
And Actually also in M&M 7. There we had one of the most aristocratic looking one.


ooh, i wanna see!
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posted March 27, 2015 08:37 AM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 08:44, 27 Mar 2015.

Dracula (let's go with this, as most people think vampire should be based on this character, except Rakshasha, who I presume would like "evil spirit" type vampires from mythology), never fought in a battle. He attacked unarmored weak oponent in their sleep, using deception and subterfuge. He can also transform to bat or wolf, in which case sword is useless.

It's also a horror story rather than military one. If Dracula would encounter fully armed proffesional soldier, he would probably flee, as he fled before couple of armed and prepared civilians. Not to mention, he's supposed to be Vlad Tepes (there are hints of this only tho), which means he probably owns several sets of good plate armor, aswell as know how to fight with every weapon you can name. The historical count did go into battle armed to the teeth, and probably on horse. Dracula is also a count, which makes him part of aristocracy, which carried weapons on them often.

If hypothetically, Dracula would go into battle, he would most likely equip armor, and weapon, and even mount a horse.

Gear or weapons or clothing dosen't make a vampire. Characteristics do. And unfortunatly most of Dracula's characteristics are completly useless in open field battle.

I AM therefore more in favour of monstrous type of vampire. Problem is none of them are monstous. "Blood monster" is as much Twilight as you can get. Vampires in Twilight don't carry swords lol.

To say that Vampire would cease to be "proper" because of the sword, is THE EXACT SAME THING, as to say policemen with AK-47 is not a policemen. He can still be a police officer, just veary dangerous one . Policemen is not a title determined by a weapon, but is an occupation, that person does.

The way I see thse Vampire vote is this: 2 guys and one girl that project me a messege to go out with them. That is what their manerism, and clothing suggests.

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Rakshasa92
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posted March 27, 2015 10:15 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 15:12, 27 Mar 2015.

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This is just so wrong on many ways, vampires are supposed to be uber powerful, slashing people in half with just their claws, they don't need pathetic swords, which they break like a twig if not magical or silver.

They are also lightning fast, so they can bite their necks INTACT without any slashing wounds that SPILL the blood on the floor, the vampires want the blood remember...


SO can Astartes. Punch people's head from their head, split them in two and more, with just hands and some tiny effort. However, they're still soldiers. And vampires serve in armies as well. Your vampire soldier is not going to charge at enemies and slash with claws, get that out of your head.

He's not a werewolf.


A vampire is very animalistic,

You think Twilight/game/D&D and other such vampires are the REAL vampires, they are Incubi/succubi, not vampires.

HOMM3 had the real vampires. Don't call those stupd pretty people vampires.

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EPICUSDOOMICUS
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posted March 27, 2015 10:22 AM
Edited by EPICUSDOOMICUS at 10:29, 27 Mar 2015.

It just stroke me!!

I voted for the blood monster.

I liked the idea of the lady, too, but I dislike armored vampires, no matter the gender...

Now, I know blood monster might have been depicted as intelligent -even aristocratic- beings elsewere. But, concerning the design and ingame motion, I just hope Ubidon't don't give us a H6 ghoul snow with life drain ability...

I mean, ok, a blood monster should be fierce and maybe dressed in the rugs left by its own clothing tearing up due to the uncontrolled blood thirst, maybe, but nothing resembling the looks of a mindless ghoul.

For a quick guide, Ubidon't please check the "Blaahhh!"...
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Rakshasa92
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posted March 27, 2015 11:57 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 15:12, 27 Mar 2015.

I just wished they weren't such anti HOMM3 people there at the ASHAN studios...

HOMM3 bald, scary, realistic, horrible, non-sword, non-female, non-pretty, did I already said AWESOME nosferatu-like vampires are perfect, not need to Twilight-terrorize the vampire, or put some horrible warcraft-stuff on them.

I like blizzard for starcraft and diablo, but man, did Warcaft RUIN the reputation of MANY monsters...

Wyverns that look more like manticores
Minotaurs that are *******
Vampires that are pretty people that are dependent on swords...
Elf Species in more variety than colors of the world...

I hate warcraft!

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Minion
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posted March 27, 2015 12:33 PM

artu said:
I cant help feeling like the ones who support sword vampires are all 14 year old kids whose idea of cool revolves around things like Transformers and 3D shiny.


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RMZ1989
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posted March 27, 2015 12:50 PM
Edited by RMZ1989 at 12:51, 27 Mar 2015.

Where are moderators to clean this mess that thread has turned into?

No real arguments, just rotten discussion between few guys, ad hominem attacks and provocations everywhere.
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posted March 27, 2015 01:34 PM

RMZ1989 said:
No real arguments, just rotten discussion between few guys, ad hominem attacks and provocations everywhere.

IKR? I haven't have this much fun reading forums in a long time now ... was realy getting borring.

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Pawek_13
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posted March 27, 2015 02:22 PM

I've chosen the third one. I like how it combines the intimidating nature of vampires and "sexy" looks of Ashanese ones.

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Dave_Jame
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posted March 27, 2015 02:53 PM

kiryu133 said:

ooh, i wanna see!


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posted March 27, 2015 02:57 PM

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posted March 27, 2015 03:02 PM - penalty applied by alcibiades on 27 Mar 2015.
Edited by alcibiades at 15:13, 27 Mar 2015.

Deleted, overstepping lines of offending other members.

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GenyaArikado
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posted March 27, 2015 03:05 PM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 15:12, 27 Mar 2015.



i loved how random was the story in Bloodlines.

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alcibiades
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posted March 27, 2015 03:09 PM

RMZ1989 said:
Where are moderators to clean this mess that thread has turned into?

No real arguments, just rotten discussion between few guys, ad hominem attacks and provocations everywhere.

Moderator note: I agree, I'm gonna do a bit of cleaning and give this thread one more chance, if things continue in the same style, I'll close the thread without further notification.

Please remember that personal attacks and offences at other members - direct or indirect - are not allowed according to the Code of Conduct and site rules. Some of you have been warned about this before and will be penalized accordingly. Also remember that language than can be considered graphic or sexual in nature also goes against the site rules. A discussion forum is for sharing your thoughts and oppinions, and giving feedback to other people's oppinions, and you are allowed to disagree, but you must still post according to these rules.
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Haregar
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posted March 27, 2015 04:14 PM

My vote difinitely went to the Blood Monster. It reminds me of good, old classic vampires' look who are not gentle nobles with ability to suck blood and fall in love in non-vampiric girls (as the current trend seems to go...).

Blood Monster (according to the description) is truly an evil creature. Leaving his fake life of an aristocrat he filled his noble-like pride with bloodlust, viciousness and wildness. I really, really enjoyed the fact that he didn't have a sword in his hands. I didn't like that idea much, although it wasn't that annoying for me either when I played HoMM5.
This one seems as a fine mix of HoMM3&4 vampires, mixing brutality with elegance.

This post would not be complete without writing why I didn't choose 1st or 2nd proposition.
The Vampire Knight - as I have already said - has a sword while I see "bare claws" superior to swords in the topic of vampires. However it would not be a big problem, if it was not looking like death knight Arthas Menethil from Warcraft universe. This sketch could be fine if it was about a different creature, but as a vampire it's not appealing to me.

The Night Lady would be good, I don't mind having a female vampire. But again, she is wielding a sword (while in my oppinion vampires' claws > swords or sabres). What's more, her armour seems to be uncomfortable and not-vampire-like.

I really hope that the Blood Monster will win.

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