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LizardWarrior
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posted December 19, 2016 10:23 PM

Terrorist attack at Berlin

Daily Mail said:

At least nine people have been killed and more than 50 injured after a lorry ploughed through a crowd of shoppers at 40mph in a busy Christmas market in Berlin.

German police at the scene have indicated the incident is likely to be a terror attack.

The vehicle sped through a crowd of shoppers at the market on Breitscheidplatz Square, outside the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church in west Berlin.

The driver of the truck was arrested near the scene and is in police custody after initially fleeing the area, while a passenger in the vehicle died at the scene.

Police in Berlin are now using Twitter to urge locals to stay in their homes as German Chancellor Angela Merkel says she is 'mourning the dead'.



"Multiculturalism" at work
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posted December 19, 2016 10:26 PM
Edited by Ebonheart at 22:27, 19 Dec 2016.

As always, condolances to the victims and their beloved ones.

That being said, I do not understand the issue or panic here.
You vote for multiculture - you get multiculture.

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OhforfSake
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posted December 19, 2016 10:27 PM

Cheap points..

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posted December 19, 2016 10:28 PM

OhforfSake said:
Cheap points..

Pardon me Ohforfsake, but I do not follow what you mean here.=/

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posted December 19, 2016 10:30 PM

LizardWarrior said:


"Multiculturalism" at work


sigh

You say, without giving any information whatsoever about the identity of the driver, let alone the motif or links.

Before yous start spewing crap, perhaps wait and see if there is anything supporting it?
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posted December 19, 2016 10:32 PM

I think the crux here Kir is that incidents like these have never really taken place before the MC started. Thus it is only logical to link them together, but you are right, one should await the identity.

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posted December 19, 2016 10:33 PM

I'd sooner say extremism at work than multiculturalism. Or is it radicalism?

Either way, it is still sad.

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posted December 19, 2016 10:36 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:39, 19 Dec 2016.

So, in the same day, you get an assassinated diplomat and a Nice attack copy-cat, sprinkled with some rumors about gunfires in Zurich. What a coincidence!

Quote:
You say, without giving any information whatsoever about the identity of the driver, let alone the motif or links.

Before yous start spewing crap, perhaps wait and see if there is anything supporting it?


That's why I used quotes, no need to get triggered But I will apologize if the attacker will be proven not to be part of a certain ethnicity.
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posted December 19, 2016 10:39 PM

Kiryu's attempt to deny the elephant in the room, as usual. Everyone knows is russian hackers.

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posted December 19, 2016 10:42 PM

Breaking news, the truck had been stolen and the number is fake. Who could have guessed
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posted December 19, 2016 10:44 PM

I am shocked and befuddled!
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No i'm not.

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posted December 19, 2016 10:53 PM

The only way this could possibly be the fault of "multiculturalism"(as absurd as that is) is if the driver is part of an ethnic minority of at most third generation, they were not influenced by narcotics or alcohol and they have no ties to any extremist political groups, say, ISIS.  Then and only then could multiculturalism even be considered but even then it would be ridiculous at best.
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posted December 19, 2016 11:03 PM

I understand why some people have objections against multi-culturalism in the context (the details) that it's applied in current Europe, some objections seem reasonable, some not. However, linking such attacks to it is really far-fetched. If anything, if Europe was more nationalist, you would have more of those attacks, all it takes is a few radicals. We had two bombings this month again, one in Istanbul, one in Kayseri, are they also because of multi-culturalism? As long as the Middle East is in heat by global conflict, this is the new reality, multi-culturalism or not.
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posted December 19, 2016 11:11 PM

Well, saying is multi-culturalism is a sarcasm label and points vs all the left cucks who believe culturally non-homogeneous societies can survive, while we don't have a single of such examples but every fact shows the opposite.

The reasons are multiples, obviously, but one of the most predominant is that the arabo-muslim culture is antithetical to ours, and will naturally generate endless conflicts. It is worthless to come to an agreement on that, only votes at the right time can save our civilization, and I am confident smart people will wisely vote sooner or later. Is just a matter of time.

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posted December 19, 2016 11:24 PM

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ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack according to Iraqi sources, reports the Washington Times, with the truck reported to have ploughed into crowds at 40mph.


Video of an unrelated innocent young man accidentaly shooting a high ranking evil Russian diplomat, while promoting the religion of peace
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posted December 19, 2016 11:25 PM - penalty applied by Corribus on 21 Dec 2016.
Edited by artu at 23:30, 19 Dec 2016.

@Sal

Almost all modern countries had been culturally non-homogeneous since the very early stages of capitalism, even more so after WW2 when nationalism lost its intellectual appeal, not to mention all the empires of the past which were directly the ideological result of culturally non-homogeneous structures. Cultural homogeneity is the historical exception in most cases, not the rule.

@Liz.

I talked about the details of that attack in the Interesting Articles thread. Yes, Islam sucks and no one on their right mind would call it the religion of peace but thousands of Muslims lived in the West for centuries without a pattern of such attacks, centuries... this is not about theology but politics below the surface.
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posted December 19, 2016 11:29 PM

kiryu133 said:
The only way this could possibly be the fault of "multiculturalism"(as absurd as that is) is if the driver is part of an ethnic minority of at most third generation, they were not influenced by narcotics or alcohol and they have no ties to any extremist political groups, say, ISIS.  Then and only then could multiculturalism even be considered but even then it would be ridiculous at best.


^ This.

You need to identify the agents that are compelling the violent behavior. i.e. (common scenarios)

1) Drugs
2) Terrorism
3) Radical behavior (psychopathy)
4) Profit-motivated

In this case, it is more than likely #2, with some #3 added in.

Do we all understand why it is non-specific/dangerous to say that multiculturalism is the agent. You need to give a correct diagnosis. You can't say "It's because he's Egyptian" because that's not very helpful for a justice system.
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posted December 19, 2016 11:30 PM

The point is you can't force multiculturalism, it's either assimilation or conflict. As long as 2 cultures can't respect each other, and the migrants can't embrace the culture of their host country, they can't live together. It's as simple as that.
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posted December 19, 2016 11:34 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 23:39, 19 Dec 2016.

Salamandre said:
Well, saying is multi-culturalism is a sarcasm label and points vs all the left cucks who believe culturally non-homogeneous societies can survive, while we don't have a single of such examples but every fact shows the opposite.

The reasons are multiples, obviously, but one of the most predominant is that the arabo-muslim culture is antithetical to ours, and will naturally generate endless conflicts. It is worthless to come to an agreement on that, only votes at the right time can save our civilization, and I am confident smart people will wisely vote sooner or later. Is just a matter of time.


Europe just isn't as accustomed to being ****ed up like the rest of the world. Your civilization will continue just fine. I promise. There's going to be a 0.01% chance of being plowed over by violent crime as opposed to a 0.001% chance, but life will go on.

Europeans intentionally move to America everyday, and we've been ****ed up since forever. If you've got a robust market, lots of variety & opportunity, a nice retirement package, and things to do, then people will want to live there, even if there is a slight possibility of getting driven over by a lorry with a crazy guy at the helm.

In the big picture, nobody is going to move out of Germany because 9 people died at the hands of a crazy person. If they do, then they have some extremely poor decision-making skills. It's one of the safest places in the world and you can enjoy a high standard of living.
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posted December 19, 2016 11:34 PM

Multicultural doesn't necessary means non homogeneous. I am positive on multi-culturalism (as it is my case in France) but only when it is homogeneous, which means the cultures mixing are breeding from same values.

Sometimes the religion can be a serious brake at allowing two cultures becoming homogeneous and it relativizes the secular culture in place, which explains why I believe artu could integrate like a piece of cake in occident but not all his very close neighbors, accordingly to each one religious position.

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