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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted August 23, 2020 03:37 PM

I guess you hit the bulleye this time. Why would the red skins want to drive more attention to themselves, if when they were receiving it they were portrayed as the savages ravaging peaceful colonists...
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted August 23, 2020 03:48 PM

Well, that had changed since the 1970’s. Especially after Dances with The Wolves in the early 1990’s. I remember it was a big deal when it got the best film Oscar, competing out films like Godfather 3 and the Goodfellas. It was the first Oscar seremony  I watched. Then you have this “always wise and peaceful, monk-like Natives” phase in cinema. These days there are movies which are more balanced, portraying many types of Natives, including ones that are very nomadic and savage indeed, not just to colonists but also to other tribes.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted August 23, 2020 03:56 PM

I guess I should change my avatar to a granddaddy, I was an adult when that one came out...
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Blizzardboy
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Iceskating uphill
posted August 23, 2020 04:14 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 16:38, 23 Aug 2020.

The naivety and irony here is overflowing.
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fred79
fred79


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted August 23, 2020 04:20 PM

Elvin said:
female Bond is not one of them.


Lol, dude nailed it.

I especially like this comment on the vid:

"We need a new Lara Croft, give Dwayne Johnson a call."
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted August 23, 2020 04:41 PM

Didn't you knew The Critical Drinker? He is your face. (Not sure if the idiomatic expression is translatable...)

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted August 23, 2020 04:50 PM

Blizzardboy said:
The naivety and irony here is overflowing.

About what?
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Blizzardboy
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Iceskating uphill
posted August 23, 2020 04:59 PM

artu said:

About what?


Blob and the person pretending to not be a teenager.

I can't post anymore lol. There's simply too many clueless things to address and it would require significant writing.
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted August 23, 2020 05:06 PM
Edited by Galaad at 17:09, 23 Aug 2020.

JollyJoker said:
Galaad said:
@JJ: Meh, heroes should be timeless, imo.

Their biography can't be, though - not when you transfer the hero in time. It's also somewhat lame, because it means they cannot develop - or get old(er). Even Spider-Man/Peter Parker has developed from being a high-school student to college student to married high-school teacher to freelance photographer.

In short, timeless is difficult.


I understand. Still, there is already countless variations one can make at any part of his/her life. The issue with taking into consideration retirement and eventual death is that it's not longer the same hero, and imo that is even more difficult, as people get attached to the original character in a much stronger sense.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted August 23, 2020 05:08 PM
Edited by blob2 at 17:16, 23 Aug 2020.

artu said:
I think he means “out of sight, out of mind.” We have a similar proverb meaning “one who’s out of sight, ends up out of the heart.” According to what I understand from his description, rather than preferring peaceful solutions, natives are simply much less interested in becoming part of mainstream popular culture.


You are wrong here Artu.

Yes, they are less claimant then *some other minorities*, but that doesn't mean they aren't proud of their ancestry and don't want to show it to the world. They usually try to focus on their sacred ancestral lands which are claimed by the governemnt and try various forms of protest (like the famous Dakota pipeline protests). They just don't have the means to push through to the mainstream, probably becasue they are also very diversified (they comprise from a lot of distinct tribes). You can see how they try to appeal to broader populace through music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEmjW9J3_o or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTJvpfkRRdA, or through various cultural events like the Six Nations fair which is also open to everyone (you can see it in the second video I provided above).

It doesn't help that many are enclosed in remote reservations without so much as job perspectives and drown in alcoholism. The only ones that made something for themselves are the ones who are involved in gambling. Tribes like Mashantucket Pequot are making bilions due to the so-called Indian Gaming Regulatory Act.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted August 23, 2020 05:09 PM
Edited by artu at 17:11, 23 Aug 2020.

@Galaad & JJ

The solution they come up with is usually a reboot every 20 years or so. Spider-Man or James Bond or Batman, they all had reboots more than once, comic ones not only in cinema.
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted August 23, 2020 05:10 PM

Yes, I included reboots in variations.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted August 23, 2020 05:14 PM
Edited by blob2 at 17:19, 23 Aug 2020.

Blizzardboy said:
artu said:

About what?


Blob and the person pretending to not be a teenager.

I can't post anymore lol. There's simply too many clueless things to address and it would require significant writing.


Clueless in what? In how businesess like Hollywood or comic book industry works? Ofc I know it's naive to think mainstream will give a rats ass about Natives as long as they don't bring in the money...

But imo Native American culture is a treasure trove of interesting inspirations more then anything, which are ready-made for games, movies or animation. Yet most we get are either some obsecure t-shirt art-prints or props for people into spiritualism. At least in fantasy genre we see some inspirations...

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 10, 2020 08:32 PM

So.. Mulan now has high chi levels and epic skills without training. I'm sensing a pattern here xD
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evildustructor
evildustructor


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posted September 10, 2020 10:45 PM
Edited by evildustructor at 22:47, 10 Sep 2020.

Kipshasz said:
Geny said:
You do realize that lady Thor has been present in the comics for years now, right? In a way it's not different from Captain America passing the shield to Falcon.



however methinks that lady thor film will go the way of Captain Feminism, Dykebusters and other "woke" all female garbage films of the recent years

however all the marvel soys will still gobble it up, so out of those it won't be a complete flop


grug say woman bad no acting good

HAaaaAAaaaAaaAaa

for real tho the ghostbusters movie was bad because general movie was bad but it got disproportional hate imo. its just a bad movie its not really that much worse than any other snowty b hollywood movies ive seen i have no idea why people got so god damn upset lol. its like watching another boring ass attempted comedy movie that tries to be funny but really isnt

the movie couldve been good if the movie actually was ----good---, its not just bad cuz some women are playing the roles if they did it well enough id probably like it but it sucked which just would make it worse ()but it didnt really their snowty budget film got lots of attention just because of the ghostbuster fan outrage), the weird hollywood market liberal snow that gets put out to milk out every genre for money and faking ""wokeness" just to sell more is getting old imo., but it still gets even more marketing and gives them even more money because they get so much attention from angry people online that are really mad that their fav character looks different so dont really see the point, dont like it dont watch it or scream sjw for it and then they get no revenue lol,

the online warriors are rly becoming the true heirs of 2014 liberal feminists in spirit by hysterically caring for the future of their fav comic book characters in 1 movie

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PandaTar
PandaTar


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posted September 10, 2020 11:58 PM

Elvin said:
So.. Mulan now has high chi levels and epic skills without training. I'm sensing a pattern here xD


Terrible. They completely undermined her capacity of overcoming her failures and difficulties. The movie had the complete opposite meaning of something really respectable for women themselves.

In other words, utter crap.
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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 11, 2020 07:11 AM

Ahh, imagine when Lexxan gets wind of this

But as usual message first, film quality second.
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