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Kipshasz
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Elvin's Darkside
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posted March 25, 2022 12:13 PM |
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Since Siberia was settled by war prisoners from GDL, technically, Siberian land belongs to Lithuania by Right of Conquest,just like the three fictional nations of russian federation, belarus and ukraine.
Henceforth, you shall adress me as the Czar of All of Rus.
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 25, 2022 12:47 PM |
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Why European fear moved to the new world in history..
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CountBezuhoff
Supreme Hero
Nihil sub sole novum
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posted March 25, 2022 12:50 PM |
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Siberia belongs to the throat singing tribes.
The Count
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 01:08 PM |
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Edited by Baronus at 13:09, 25 Mar 2022.
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Baronus
In ,Russia' lives 150 or something about ,natinalities'. A lot of them are tribal pepole similiar to Amazonia. With shamans rites etc. Russian should give them christianity but they are ateists in fact and always want own empire not spirituality.
We have Siberian independence movement:
Siberia independence
But they keep silence because dont want russian liberators as you see in Ukraine. Liberation of Kharkov or Mariupol you see on movies...
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Ben80
Famous Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 01:14 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 13:15, 25 Mar 2022.
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Americans must return all American lands to the Red Indians. I do not know where the Americans themselves will live, but these are their problems.
Once upon a time, European colonialists deliberately poisoned with alcohol Red Indians, also they spreading dangerous viral diseases among them. The Chinese in the 19th century were turned into a nation of drug addicts by British (opium was imposed on them).
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted March 25, 2022 01:21 PM |
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No need.. USA paid "debt", and Indian tribe bought a country and founded casino.. USA gave legal income.. But many tribes yet..
EDIT I guessed your post, Ben80. Nice played!
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 02:34 PM |
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Now we talk about Russia crimes. And solution of this problem. Russian gives alchol Siberian tribes intead christianity. It must be repaired. By Poland of course.
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 03:24 PM |
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Remembering other nation's sins is never an excuse for its own ones. This is not a competition for the title of the worst country. Now we have people killed every day, and if I were God, I would send cherubs. They are very angry and fearsome angels created for cases like this one.
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purerogue
Known Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 03:45 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
Remembering other nation's sins is never an excuse for its own ones.
I do not understand this thinking.
oh.. you mean it's alright to be ... a .. hypocrite?
This is the literal n-word for your generation.
add: no Jewish nazis
add2: political othordoxy
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 04:08 PM |
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The whole history of humanity is full of atrocities. But, what's more important, it's full of great achievements. To build was always harder than to destroy. I think that in the very core of humankind lies the idea for dominance. You can teach your children, so they could differentiate right from wrong, but what will happen if we remove education completely? Will we be the same "angels" we think we are? I doubt that. We are bound to rob and kill by nature, we are predators by default. Well, if this is true, why we strive to become better, to become above what nature predetermined for us? No one will appreciate these events which happening right now in the future we'll never see. Humanity doesn't have a goal, though it has a direction, a vector it's supposed to move along. Don't know if we are alreary too late, but I'm truly sure that the 21st century would have been possible in the 17th, if not for those people who consider themselves gods on Earth. Do you really think faraohs didn't want to build pyramids which would actually work? Yet they believed that they know enough. The key word "believed". And our contemporary faraohs didn't go far from their spiritual ancestors and their baseless beliefs.
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purerogue
Known Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 04:23 PM |
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Trust me, in the end there are just sides. The people you like or dislike is natural, and unchangeable.
To attempt to convince others that you are different is dishonest.
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 04:47 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 16:48, 25 Mar 2022.
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And about the Third World War. Question yourselves who is more human - those who threatens it will be reality or those who try to prevent it, even if it means inaction and needless sacrifices? I sympathize with NATO. It's them who tried to prevent the Third World War, not Russia. I even think Russia *wants* the Third World War, they don't see how beautiful this world is. The aggressor is definitely the Russia state. They even didn't wish to localize this conflict, they decided to fight against the independent state of Ukraine just because they are stronger. And they are really stronger, much stronger, which even exacerbates their guilt. This should be a local operation in Donetsk and Lugansk, not the attempt to take Kiev (Kyiv).
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pitsu
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 04:49 PM |
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Baronus said:
Now we talk about Russia crimes.
word play. Whatever you talk about is a crime in Russia. This, in turn is Russia's crime.
Baronus said:
Russian gives alchol Siberian tribes intead christianity.
Via liver or soul, both are lethal. The native belifs could be a unique cultural treasure of Russian *federation*. Instead it tries to russify them and invests into "protecting" russian orthodox christian "culture" in Ukraine.
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Ben80
Famous Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 04:51 PM |
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Frankly, I don't know how to morally compare different countries or societies. I don't even know for sure whether I am a materialist or an idealist.
On the other hand, it is quite possible that different civilizations differ in character (of course, not exactly like people, but still).
So when some people in Russia or some other countries talk about the special character of Russian civilization - as the protector of the weak and the oppressed - I think that this may well be possible.
It is quite possible that if Russia were strong at a time when Yugoslavia or Libya were being destroyed, Russia would not have allowed this.
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purerogue
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posted March 25, 2022 05:09 PM |
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Ben80
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posted March 25, 2022 05:10 PM |
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@AlexSpl
If you admit (understand) that political events in the world are a consequence of the pursuit of selfish interests by different countries, then your pathos is incomprehensible to me.
If you are discussing these events from the point of view of morality - then where were you when the US and other countries committed their crimes in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ?
Have you posted relevant questions in any forums?
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 05:22 PM |
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Quote:
If you are discussing these events from the point of view of morality - then where were you when the US and other countries committed their crimes in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ?
Have those really been "crimes"? I don't speak about casualties. I hate this world when I speak about human lives. I don't want to be a casualty. You just throw out words "Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya". But you forgot Afghanistan. You don't provide the whole information about the Yugoslavian conflict. Those who don't check facts, think it's the US who are the monster, but if you dig deeper, you'll understand they the US answered the call for help from the minority whose rights were not respected. Don't you find that the current situation is similar to what was happening in Yougoslavia back then? This time it's the Russian army which commits crimes.
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purerogue
Known Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 05:28 PM |
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The problem with woke ideology is that it is a form of terrorism, in that it asserts the rights of the natural minority against those of the majority. Democratically it cannot succeed, so the only path is terrorism - the imposition of will by force (by the minority).
That the rights of minorities in all senses, can only be 'granted' by the majority with whom they 'seek' to co-exist.. let's not kid ourselves, when the todler becomes a man as big or bigger than you, you will be subjugated.
Racism/zenophobia/all forms of discrimination are natural human/biological/behavioural tendencies.
Someone is screaming "Han chauvinist"
That's the problem with 'democracy' - why it doesn't work to the exception of other forms, because it is just mob rob.
As I am sure Americans can point out republicanism is not democracy, it requires an enlightened society (brought about by civil discourse, not cancel culture) which is the only form a minority can seek to exist as such. Which eventually will reverse itself as Joe Biden is so sure "democracies will beat autocracies" and lead people to believe you can mouth off at will at a tough guy, but he will just beat the poop out of you, then you will cry about him being "bad"
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Ben80
Famous Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 05:38 PM |
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@AlexSpl,
Understandable - then you did not write angry posts. You may not understand it, but this whole situation speaks very badly about you. I can simply once again state that you do not recognize the presumption of innocence for Russia, but recognize it for the West.
As for Yugoslavia, it was generally a turning point in the world. Before this event, the world could develop in a completely different way - in a peaceful way. It was simply an act of power asserting itself.
In the case of Ukraine, the situation is completely different - this is a forced protection from Russia. All this has already been discussed here, and I see no reason to repeat the same thing to you. You are blind and deaf, and in a way "crazy" (that is, terribly biased).
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Ben80
Famous Hero
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posted March 25, 2022 05:53 PM |
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@AlexSpl
Again, assuming that all countries pursue their own interests,
it is logical to assume that the crimes were committed by every militarily strong country.
However, here you start to bustle (because you can’t explain that you didn’t write angry posts earlier).
Then one have to assume that you really think the United States is a highly moral country. But this is a clear clinic.
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