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posted May 16, 2022 11:05 PM |
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Pol said:
And whole world considering them for a souless monsters. Not any signs of support even from China or India.
Perhaps it would be much better, if you won't use this argument. It's pretty much deranged.
I don't know what you mean by "whole world", because more than half of the world not only doesn't condemn, but also uses this opportunity to settle future alliances against the westerner world. China, India, they are behind Russia as now. They won't yell it, but the complete silence tells a lot.
I was listening this evening to Moscow Conservatory TV YT chain. They basically broadcast a classical concert every day. One broadcast kept my attention, the 90th anniversary of Sergey Dorensky birth day. He was the teacher of my teacher, so that brought memories. A high quality evening, where several of those soulless monsters transcended before starving ears the great masters of the past.
Only hate can derange one, good luck on finding out who you were before.
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posted May 17, 2022 02:59 AM |
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fred79
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posted May 17, 2022 05:34 AM |
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Wouldn't the JEWS be the first, both the Ukrainian as well as Israel who'd cut ties, if there was a serious problem?
this goes back to the question i asked earlier. it's funny: the questions i'm asking people here, that they are avoiding answering, will answer the questions they're asking. but no, keep deliberately ignoring what you're too afraid to realize. keep thinking that i'm this or that, instead of someone trying to tell you what's going on.
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posted May 17, 2022 09:17 AM |
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Salamandre said:
I don't know where you read that Russia wanted to take Kiev, one could wonder why Putin sent a such tiny force if he wanted to conquer all up to Yellowstone National Park, seriously.
Well first of all it doesn't make sense? Why do you think the troops were there? I have heard opinions of several military experts too and there is no known (good) military strategy where you would take such losses to both troops AND equipment for no reason - far away from the intended target. They even dropped paratroopers to the city.
Even if he doesn't care for the lives of his soldiers, it would still be strategically unsound unless the aim was to take Kiev and they overestimated their capabilities most likely.
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posted May 17, 2022 09:17 AM |
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The National Rally (French: Rassemblement national, until 2018 known as the National Front, is a French nationalist and far-right political party in France.
The one reason it's currently not called a neo-nazi organization is the fact that the daughter is somewhat more clever than her father and grasped that if you consider the main problem of your country being the immigrating Muslims and not the Jews, it doesn't make sense to alienate the Jews since they are natural allies against (radical) Muslims.
I'd call it "enlightened neo-nazism".
Everything else is just catering to the fact that in order to be successful you have to appeal to ALL conservative thinking people, not just the very far right, and you also have to have a cool-label.
We are not living in the 1930s anymore.
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Galaad
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posted May 17, 2022 10:04 AM |
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Bull****, JJ.
National Rally:
Azov:
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Galaad
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posted May 17, 2022 10:08 AM |
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At the limit in France you had Génération Identitaire, which where effectively neo-nazis, but they were not affiliated to the French police or army by any stretch, and they got banned.
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Salamandre
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posted May 17, 2022 10:11 AM |
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As usual, JJ spots fascists everywhere except where they really are.
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Galaad
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posted May 17, 2022 10:14 AM |
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I find it incredibly dishonest to put these two on the same level.
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posted May 17, 2022 10:19 AM |
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also, the reason why you have so many "migrants" flooding into specific countries, is by jewish design. so you're wrong there, too, jj.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 17, 2022 11:32 AM |
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Galaad said:
I find it incredibly dishonest to put these two on the same level.
Because one wear a uniform and the other suits? Are you kidding me?
I mean, look at the original, when they were not in power. They had the NSDAP, a party, in suits, and the SA, uniform-wearing paramilitary units. You'd find it dishonest to compare them?
And, really, you are falling for the 21st-century public face designed to be mild enough to pull regular conservatives over? This is at best naive.
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posted May 17, 2022 01:47 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Pol said:
And whole world considering them for a souless monsters. Not any signs of support even from China or India.
Perhaps it would be much better, if you won't use this argument. It's pretty much deranged.
I don't know what you mean by "whole world", because more than half of the world not only doesn't condemn, but also uses this opportunity to settle future alliances against the westerner world. China, India, they are behind Russia as now. They won't yell it, but the complete silence tells a lot.
I was listening this evening to Moscow Conservatory TV YT chain. They basically broadcast a classical concert every day. One broadcast kept my attention, the 90th anniversary of Sergey Dorensky birth day. He was the teacher of my teacher, so that brought memories. A high quality evening, where several of those soulless monsters transcended before starving ears the great masters of the past.
Only hate can derange one, good luck on finding out who you were before.
I'm saying that last time. Don't speak for me. Don't take out what I'm saying out of context, twisting the meaning.
Current russian army actions at Ukraine have from none to very shallow connection to their orchestra. Or at least, I never seen their orchestra attacking Kyiv.
I have nothing against russians, many of them are my friends. But I really hate this senseless war.
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fred79
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posted May 17, 2022 03:33 PM |
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Pol said:
I really hate this senseless war.
this is something i think most of us agree on.
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posted May 17, 2022 04:45 PM |
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Don't know much about National Rally, but well, at least you can find Jean-Marie Le Pen and Neo-Nazism in the same paragraph quite easily.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Peace_and_Freedom
Another find - in Slovakia neo-nazi party has 7 sits in parliament out of 150:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_Our_Slovakia
In general, this Neo-Nazism Wikipedia article is quite interesting. Many organizations were banned, many still functioning, some developed paramilitary wings.
Bottom line - the neo-nazism situation in Ukraine isn't much different from most of the other European countries.
And one funny thing - most of those active neo-nazi groups in Europe currently support Putin. D - Denazification.
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purerogue
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posted May 17, 2022 05:26 PM |
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Natural enemies/allies is a thing - color me cynical.
Big countries, who have/potentially their own little territories to annex, (quietly) support Russia, the lot of little ones of course cry foul.
It's quite simple really.
Which is why the opposite, 'moralistic' approach comes to the opposite conclusion, but a perfectly moral world BY DEFINITION would not exist.
Those who insist on this approach either profit from it (the politician, 'woke'), are shameless hypocrites, or just young/dumb.
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posted May 18, 2022 05:46 AM |
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fred79 said:
also, the reason why you have so many "migrants" flooding into specific countries, is by jewish design.
Lol. I know you are not deliberately trying to spread Nazism but a lot of the BS you are sold is literally Nazi propaganda. And I dont call any right-wing or even far-right person Nazi, it’s not a word I treat lightly. But just put the pieces together:
You believe that an interconnected globalist cult, controlled and designed by the Jews, uses other races against the whites. You have nothing against the blacks but they are “programmed” to be your (white people’s) enemy according to your own words, in order to supress you. This is word by word Nazi propaganda:
The jew is using the black as muscle against you. 
It’s really ironic for someone who accuses anyone who doesnt buy into his outrageous conspiracies “programmed robots” to be getting his “programming” from such bottom feeders.
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posted May 18, 2022 09:40 AM |
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you claim it's propaganda simply because of the source, but you can find the links to unbiased fact on your own, if you care to. all the data is there; you only make yourself the fool because you are too afraid to be viewed as someone most westerners have literally been trained to hate.
i'll ask it again: how many jews were in ukraine before the conflict? and how many jews remain?
if none of you are willing to answer these two questions, then don't bother arguing. you cannot argue in good faith, if you are unwilling to answer questions that will enlighten you to what's going on, that you're not being told.
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Galaad
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posted May 18, 2022 09:52 AM |
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Bottom line - the neo-nazism situation in Ukraine isn't much different from most of the other European countries.
The application lodged by Alliance for Peace and Freedom ASBL for registration as a European political party is hereby rejected. Link.
And I don't particularly like her but MlP is not her father, talk about manipulation.
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posted May 18, 2022 10:07 AM |
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JollyJoker
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posted May 18, 2022 11:16 AM |
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Galaad said:
ihor said:
Bottom line - the neo-nazism situation in Ukraine isn't much different from most of the other European countries.
The application lodged by Alliance for Peace and Freedom ASBL for registration as a European political party is hereby rejected. Link.
And I don't particularly like her but MlP is not her father, talk about manipulation.
You know the simple marketing trick, don't you: You have two different noodles, one more expensive than the other, and most everyone buys the cheaper one. Add a third, even (way) more expensive and suddenly the middle one becomes acceptable.
Same thing with politics and parties: create something really appalling and what has been the extreme far right suddenly becomes acceptable.
In other words, I consider it very possible that Zemmour was just a marketing trick to get more votes for MlP - which worked.
You know, this populistic crap wouldn't work if it wasn't so effective. in 1933 nearly 44% voted for the NSDAP - they were not all "Nazis". Same thing with MlP. She got 23% in the first election and 41.5 in the second. Those aren't all Neo-Nazis. But the 7% who voted for Zemmour in the 1st? What about those?
You can safely say that these are PART of the RN.
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