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Salamandre
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posted May 18, 2022 12:26 PM

The sick idea that Zemmour or MLP are Nazis is only in your mind.

France had a massive immigration ongoing for decades. Parts of territory are now simply inaccessible to police, doctors, firefighters because any representative of the state is not welcomed. Criminality in those areas is only matched by illiteracy and the fading of last french habits and ways of living. Have you read what Sweden’s prime minister has said about the recent Islamic unrest? France is heading there as well.

At some point, there is need to go back, make a moratorium and restructure the whole immigration pattern. This is not saying "I don't want nor I don't like foreigners", but "we have way too many we couldn't assimilate because we lost track of who we are and have nothing better to propose".

Unfortunately such analysis is still considered as being xenophobic, nazi or whatever of that span. Such hoax is still perpetrated by those who think the west has to die in order to get the redemption for past imaginary faults. For this to happen, they had to redefine what is to be a Nazi, and this is what you do as well. When you ridicule yourself by suggesting they are same as the nazi MP Ukrainian who wrote a manifesto about leading the superior white race over the inferior Semitics

This sick narrative will shrink to such epsilon proportions that will have no choice but vanish, elections results show it as time goes by, worldwide.

This is also slowed down by the fact that we don't have yet an interesting and smart enough opinion leader.  Marine Le Pen is guilty because of her name, while Zemmour has little to none political experience and multiplies bloopers. However, it is inexorably on way and nothing can stop it. Is it only a last spasm before dying or a sane way to go back to roots and survive, time will be judge.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 18, 2022 12:37 PM

The only thing you are saying with your post is that you like the things Zemmour and Le Pen say and want, but that you don't like to think of yourself as a "Nazi".

We've already established a long time ago that you are one, though, so you can save yourself the sugarcoating and whitewashing. To be a Nazi and deserve to be called one you don't have to wear uniforms, brandish svastika banners or demand that all Jews are killed. You know, not many Nazis wanted to kill the Jews (and gays, and communists and socialists and gypsies and, in general "life-not-worth-living" or "lebensunwertes Leben" as it was called).
In fact, there actually was a resettlement plan that couldn't be implemented because there was no way to actually do it, as long as Britain ruled the seas.

I suspect, such a resettlement plan would find your warm approval - not for the Jews, of course, but for the people you don't want to have in the country that you immigrated into.

That's the nature of things - you are for some rather abstract values, vote for someone who promises to reinstate them, and when they actually start doing it, other abstract values are going to pieces.

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Salamandre
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posted May 18, 2022 12:40 PM

Sorry, you reached stupidity peaks. Nothing to add.

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fred79
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posted May 18, 2022 01:05 PM

here's a question some of you should be asking yourselves: why does the term "nazi" frequently come up in a discussion regarding ukraine and russia? because of ukrainian nazis? do you REALLY think that russia invaded the ukraine because of nazis? does it have anything to do with ukraine's "leader" being a jew?

why is it, that the term "nazi" keeps coming up?

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JollyJoker
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posted May 18, 2022 01:46 PM

Salamandre said:
Sorry, you reached stupidity peaks. Nothing to add.
Deny it as much as you want - you would have been one of the 43.9% in Germany in 1933 who'd have voted for the NSDAP, that much is obvious. Because you wouldn't have had the benefit of hindsight. What do you think how many of them would have voted the way they did, KNOWING what would happen?

If this guy isn't the equivalent of a Nazi there are none anymore.

Just ask yourself the following question: If Zemmour had the power to implement his political and social ideas, HOW would he go about it? What would he do EXACTLY? Which laws would come and how would they be ENFORCED?
THAT are the questions you have to ask. Not after WHAT you want, but HOW will that be implemented - if at all - and what will it bring.

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fred79
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posted May 18, 2022 02:04 PM

JollyJoker said:
Salamandre said:
Sorry, you reached stupidity peaks. Nothing to add.
Deny it as much as you want - you would have been one of the 43.9% in Germany in 1933 who'd have voted for the NSDAP, that much is obvious. Because you wouldn't have had the benefit of hindsight. What do you think how many of them would have voted the way they did, KNOWING what would happen?

If this guy isn't the equivalent of a Nazi there are none anymore.

Just ask yourself the following question: If Zemmour had the power to implement his political and social ideas, HOW would he go about it? What would he do EXACTLY? Which laws would come and how would they be ENFORCED?
THAT are the questions you have to ask. Not after WHAT you want, but HOW will that be implemented - if at all - and what will it bring.


calling a jew a nazi is antisemetic. your honorary jew card was just revoked.

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Pol
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posted May 18, 2022 05:01 PM

JollyJoker said:
Salamandre said:
Sorry, you reached stupidity peaks. Nothing to add.
Deny it as much as you want - you would have been one of the 43.9% in Germany in 1933 who'd have voted for the NSDAP


I do think that you are here overassuming JJ. It's like pesimists see the worst and optimists the best, the reality is somewhere, where it is, not caring about these two at all.

Your construction, although not 100% impossible, is highly unlikely. I would call to halt here.

At least to me, what said Salamandre about France holds lot of truth. Apart Zemmour, as I know nothing about him.

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purerogue
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posted May 18, 2022 05:10 PM

I find it contradictory that you can give your country away to immigrants yet when you're actually invaded NOooOOOoOOO

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artu
artu


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posted May 18, 2022 05:22 PM

It’s overreaching to claim every political movement against massive immigration is the equivalent of Nazism, especially considering the radical Islam factor which is kind of a far-right fanaticism of its own. Even here, a country that’s population is consisting of muslim majority, massive immigration from Afghanistan and Pakistan in the last few years is causing great concern and tension because Afghanistan’s population supports sharia law by 98 percent where as Turkey’s population supports it by 14 percent. Add to this, the Islamist Erdogan rule, (courts decide whatever he orders behind closed doors, in practicality, an authoritarian conservative regime), it’s a dangerous combination.

That being said, there are indeed real Neo-Nazi movements all across Europe and Ukraine is nothing special in this regard. So when the context is Russian invasion, I think it’s pointless to put a spot on Ukranian Nazis, since they are nothing close to justifying any military invasion, not by numbers nor by influence.
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fred79
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posted May 18, 2022 06:07 PM

purerogue said:
I find it contradictory that you can give your country away to immigrants yet when you're actually invaded NOooOOOoOOO


the sheep are made to feel good when accepting being replaced by foreign non-white forces through propaganda(all in predominantly white countries). then the same kind of people who pushed that propaganda, in this case, the jewish ukrainian president, tell the white people who actually belong to the country, to fight for their country, AFTER THE JEWS LEAVE IT AND HIDE OUT IN ISRAEL until the white nations kill a bunch of each other. notice how the conflict is causing other nations to try and join NATO? this is by design. many goals with every movement they make; and they're ALL to the detriment of everyone else. right now, they're using their enemies against one another, and using that conflict to consolidate power for themselves. as PER USUAL.

seeing a pattern yet?

it's sad that i had to answer the question that none of these other virtue-signalling bots will.

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purerogue
purerogue


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posted May 18, 2022 06:16 PM

courage is hard, but it pays.. eventually
now promise me arguing here is as far as it gets, ok?

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artu
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posted May 18, 2022 07:32 PM
Edited by artu at 19:33, 18 May 2022.

The reason why people dont reply to things such as “Jews planned it all and then left for Israel” is not because they are dodging your questions. It’s because they dont bother to step down into this level of absolute non-sense. Jew or not, everybody will most probably abandone a war zone if they can, there is nothing strange about that. There is also nothing to indicate all of them living in Ukraine left or they left in bigger numbers than some other ethnic group. And on top of this, even if there was some crazy plot where the globalist evil Jews planned all this, they wouldnt be the working-class jews living in Ukraine and then leaving would they? They dominate the world and they live in some backwater neighborhood in Kiev, yeah right. Or maybe you fantasize that all Jews or all blacks know each other and they act as a hive-mind. So before the globalist elite evil Jews start a war, they immediately text all the Ukranian jews and tell them to flee! And that doesnt leak!

Even if the people you constantly insult with your sheer ignorance were indeed bots, even if they were bots programmed by a c64, they would still have been too sophisticated to take your claims seriously. The same goes for the comment above. Massive immigration can be problematic, it can cause tension and social conflict but it is not something comparable to military invasion and there is no secret plot to replace “white people who actually belong to the country” with non-white people. The world population, unless you are some idiotic racist, does not separate into two categories such as white and non-white. Each country has a different historical context with different immigration patterns from different nations. People you would label as white also migrate and people you would label as non-white also host immigration.

Go seek for professional help, your delusions are getting worse each passing year. And the trolls keep feeding it, stay away from the internet if you dont want to get lost more than you already are.
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purerogue
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posted May 18, 2022 08:12 PM

Well to be 'fair' the conspiracy can be proven quite easily, what do you think people like Putin or the FBI know just by looking at peoples phones. The most elaborate ones are hard to sustain, but it doesn't mean there aren't people actively trying right now - did you not watch some of the videos I posted on die-hard anti-Russian or whatever firebrands?
If conspiracy cannot exist how do you explain the current state of woke in the U.S.? They coalesced when Obama made it through.. now the tide has turned and alot of these people are going to have to go back into hiding.

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted May 18, 2022 08:30 PM

It’s beyond me how you present current state of “woke” in the U.S. to Israel orchestrating the invasion of Ukraine but such things have sociological and cultural explanations, not conspirical. Basically it’s about how the internet and social media transformed society.
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fred79
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posted May 18, 2022 08:31 PM

@ artu: stopped reading shortly into your blather. i asked two simple questions, and you all hid from them. and your argument now? "you're wrong, because i say so."

how do you even consider that an argument? do you honestly believe you're proving me wrong, by completely ignoring questions i pose, and then, after i answer them FOR you people unwilling to do the actual research yourselves, you have the thoughtlessness of mind to negate ANYTHING i say? really, guy?

and you top that off with "get help"? i'm trying to help OTHERS, here. there's NOTHING wrong with me. the problem lies in dense people like YOU, and your infinite unthinking complacence dooming us all to a life of MISERY.

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fred79
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posted May 18, 2022 09:38 PM
Edited by fred79 at 21:43, 18 May 2022.

google "jewish ukrainians evacuate to israel". a bunch of hits come up, and it isn't the first time that jews have fled a conflict from a nation they were inhabiting before. no, they've been doing this for decades, and i'm sure that if you actually look into the cause of those conflicts, you'll find jews and their M.O. behind them.

now, after they all flee, what does the ukrainian president zelensky do? encourage the actual ukrainians to go out and fight. and then he calls on the other nations they want to destroy, to assist.

now, remember that both putin and zelensky are part of the WEF, and their driving force is for a "great reset". and last, but not least, both zelensky and the ukrainian prime minister, are jewish. with how many other countries, is this a thing? just one. israel.

it doesn't get any clearer than that. all of this is fact. it is undeniable.

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yogi
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posted May 19, 2022 02:12 AM
Edited by yogi at 02:36, 19 May 2022.

@fred: youre not alone bro, keep up the good fight

people think italians invented mafia a couple thousand years ago lol; really need to study more history.  external power structures are measured by calendars & languages (symbols), not land and money.  reality is not just two or even three dimensional, it is a process from yesterday to tomorrow.  life is 24 consecutive hrs compounding: how do days get names; how much impact does schedule have on psychology?  we are currently living in a world run by the power structures of our ancestors.  we are chained to the past bound by the laws of physics.  mafias evolve..
the world will always be run by the evil one, because only the evil one wants to run the world.
just dont forget that the ultimate battle is materialism vs your inner peace, dont lose.
there is always a "they", but more importantly, there is always a you.
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purerogue
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posted May 19, 2022 02:36 AM

I believe *most* people are not motivated my material things ultimately.
The desire is to change what society perceives as 'normal'.
Creepy stuff.

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fred79
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posted May 19, 2022 02:42 AM

yogi, i wish you posted here more. i see why you don't, though. you're a wise one, my friend.

me, i tried finding peace by not engaging with these people. and for a while, i felt good. but that washes away, the more i see our enemy prevail over everyone.

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artu
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posted May 19, 2022 04:04 AM

Oh, great. Now, we have mystical pseudo-spiritualism as topping for “jews rule the world” conspiracy. This place is really turning into a zoo. Italians did invent the mafia, criminal organizations such as the mafia, yakuza or bratva have nothing to with the subject because nobody claims they secretly dominate the whole world or they are responsible for every conflict on earth. Of course, power structures do exist but they are not hidden cults or some ethnic group such as jews. They are not consprical either. They always existed, nation-states or kingdoms are also power structures. Any hierarchy a society establishes to organize itself is a power structure. Religion is a power structure. Even in an elementary school, you have power structures. With your new age non-sense, you are feeding a person’s clinical level detachment from reality and not doing him any favors. But hey, post-truth right, anything goes…

@fred

Oh, the irony, again. Notice how almost half of your posts start with “I stopped reading…” Not that you are very good at understanding what you read but I already did answer your question. When a place becomes a war zone, extreme majority of people who can leave, leave. Israel takes in the jews, USA takes in the Americans, Turkey takes in the Turks. There is nothing fishy about this and certainly claiming people who flee, organized the war they are fleeing from is absurd. Most Ukranians also left, in fact, it was outlawed for men of certain age to leave the country, in order to prevent them from fleeing. And it is not an easy thing to move to another country, people usually dont do it unless they really have to. No matter what kind of crap you google and consider it an education (I can google how lizard people run the earth), Putin and Zelinski meeting at WEF in the past is not what you think it is either. As long as economic trade is global, there will naturally be a platform such as WEF where political leaders and business giants meet and discuss things. The WEF is not the friggin’ Illuminati. It’s a forum as the name suggests.

You turn every thread into the same conspirical ranting wall, it’s annoying to read you calling everyone sheep and bots. It is just annoying to witness this level of ignorance displayed with such a magnitude of arrogance. I feel embarrassed instead of you, since you are incapable of feeling that yourself.

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