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gatecrasher
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posted September 12, 2024 07:00 PM |
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When write "processing resources" that refers to methods which turn the resource into something useful/consumable which makes digging it up worthwhile in the first place.
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Ben80
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posted September 12, 2024 07:04 PM |
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Orzy and I simply communicate with different Ukrainians, I with people from my circle, and he with youth hipsters, to whom the whole world owes a debt due to the fact of their birth.
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Pol
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posted September 12, 2024 08:00 PM |
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Edited by Pol at 20:01, 12 Sep 2024.
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Ben80 said:
#1 I personally worked in the same company in 2014 with a person who emigrated from the Dnepropetrovsk region - ..#2 live on the territory of Kherson and Zaporozhye under Russian ownership - #3 Crimea and Donbass immediately said no to Ukraine and yes to Russia (2014) - #4 People wanted to escape the madhouse into which the West turned Ukraine after the illegal coup.
Ofc, that's obvious that I will say what I like. But I also say what is known to me as a truth.
Let me to point out that every fact which you wrote in your reply, and put together so lightly, is wrong at some substancial level.
#1 - Knowing one doesn't count as million.
#2 - Under Russia occupation
#3 - There was local coup, involving green men in Crimea and FSB army in Donetsk.
#4 - Maidan prevented installing puppet russian government with traitor Yanukovic, as Putin's puppet. The chaos was inflicted by Russia.
I'm aware that Russians are altering history a bit. But looking on it from global perspective, you probably end running in eternal circles of lies.
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Ben80
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posted September 12, 2024 08:08 PM |
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Stay true to your delusions. Even the facts don't convince you.
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Pol
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posted September 12, 2024 08:23 PM |
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Ben80 said:
Stay true to your delusions. Even the facts don't convince you.
Anyway, thanks for the discussion.
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Ghost
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posted September 12, 2024 08:45 PM |
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gatecrasher
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posted September 12, 2024 08:59 PM |
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Ben80, please explain to me, how can it be that at prime time on Russia's most viewed TV channel in Solovyovs show people discuss about what's the best way to wipe Europe off the face of the earth?
Didn't you tell the Russian establishment was all peace-loving and bursting with respect for self-determination of peoples around the world?
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Ben80
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posted September 12, 2024 09:10 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 21:16, 12 Sep 2024.
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Soloviev is a separate topic. Everyone has long known that he is a talented person, but he often throws a kind of public hysterics. However, some of those he invites are worth listening to. For example, I listen to what film director Karen Shakhnazarov says.
I also respect Sergei Mikheev. From military analytics I read Sergei Pereslegin (telegram channel), who is not a public person.
Russia is not going to burn anyone. If the conflict escalates, the most that can happen is Russia's destruction of the military bases of some NATO countries.
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gatecrasher
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posted September 12, 2024 09:17 PM |
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Talented at what? Unsettling and instigating people? Warmongering? Spreading FUD? Deaden humanity
Or a talented comedian? Is it all just comedy? Haha!
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Ben80
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posted September 12, 2024 09:22 PM |
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Like many other people of the hysterical type, he is very artistic and sociable. He has good knowledge, knows how to think, and by the way, does good math in his head.
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gatecrasher
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posted September 12, 2024 09:29 PM |
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Well maybe he should have stuck to solving sudokus in his chamber instead of being on camera.
But anyway it's not limited to TV shows. Even Medvedev pointed out in an interview the Russian empire was supposed to reach the Portuguese coast someday. For some reason while being dressed in a dark leather coat akin to the one Goebbels used to wear.
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Ben80
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posted September 12, 2024 09:33 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 21:34, 12 Sep 2024.
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Like many other people of the hysterical type, he is very artistic and sociable. He has good knowledge, knows how to think, and by the way, does good math in his head.
gatecrasher said:
Even Medvedev pointed out in an interview the Russian empire was supposed to reach the Portuguese coast someday. For some reason while being dressed in a dark leather coat akin to the one Goebbels used to wear.
To reach the Atlantic Ocean and take control of the Dardanelles Strait - this is all from the 19-20 centuries. Now everything has shifted to the Asia-Pacific region - there will probably be something there too. China has always been a very cautious Empire, but they cannot avoid what is inevitable..
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gatecrasher
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posted September 12, 2024 09:47 PM |
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He said "is" supposed. That "was" in my sentence was to denote reported speech.
I'm sure you know how much grandpa Putin likes to lecture on history and how he justified invading Ukraine with historic right of ownership.
Since when Ukraine is located in the Asia pacific reason?
But stop, that is not to say Russia will invade say, Cambodia, Brunei or Japan?
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Pol
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posted September 12, 2024 10:01 PM |
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Most of russian thinking is from
Ben80 said:
19-20 centuries
most parts of Russia, even remember times of Golden Horde, no latrinas, no routes solidifiet with stones or asphalt, no gas, no electricity. Bottle of vodka, for a main food.
Like a small naughty boy in hysteria who pure randomly has nuclear weapons at hand.
The sole reason why Solovjev is admitted to say what he say, is Putin's silent approval. The same is true for other united tv prophets.
Open you eyes Ben80, you are exxtreme naive.
If there will be any large scale conflict, Russia will loose it as always. Even in Kursk, people were askinkg if they are moving to Moscow to dehtrone Putin. Sadly, they don't.
Europian ways of thinking, ideals and fair ways half died in Russia in 15th century, and then died completely with last tsar.
Every tools for mining, extracting oil or gas, you were getting from Canada, USA and Germany. Russia has no capability to create necessary tools themselves. Even if Russia capability to steal other property is almost endeless, it's slowly devour itself in corruption and mammon.
The Russian intelligence and elite, is in majority settled in West, expelled (or not) from Mother Russia, where remained only Putin's loyalists. And even these are happier "in the West", than home.
The Russian best rocket scientists, nationalist and mathematican geniuses, are in prison, charged for a treason.
Truly Potemkin's state overall.
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Salamandre
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posted September 12, 2024 10:03 PM |
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Lol Ben, why are you wasting your time here with people living in La-La land.
Russia is winning the war against the biggest coalition ever, has stronger economy than before, three times the EU growth, stronger economic partners, better military alliances, three quarters of the world friendly talking to them. Putin has the biggest popular support ever. The country has endless resources, no debt unlike NATO members who would have faced total shutdown if there wasn't borrowed money to take.
We should have think twice before keeping back Zelensky from negotiate, back in march 2022, where every of those involved would have had for his money, when there were two wise people talking each other. Until the fools came in, and here we are.
Mind your business, a fool always loses his temper, but a wise man holds it back.
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Ben80
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posted September 12, 2024 10:07 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 22:07, 12 Sep 2024.
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Hi !
Thank you for the favorable forecast for Russia  Perhaps I, too, partly live in La-La country, I need to do something about it..
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gatecrasher
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posted September 12, 2024 10:17 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Lol Ben, why are you wasting your time here with people living in La-La land.
Why do you still live in La-La land then? What keeps you from going to Russia?
Why don't you both go to war?
All the current Russian "economical growth" (armamant industry) does is accumulating debts and grinding down on human "resources".
Tell me about the Russian goods people in China and India line up in queues for.
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Ghost
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posted September 12, 2024 10:34 PM |
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Wrong!
La-La land isn't existence, but JWs.. How? They said the king of the North vs the king of the South is exciting! Is the war exciting? 
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Pol
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posted September 12, 2024 10:41 PM |
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Russia, don't try to understand it.
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Ghost
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posted September 12, 2024 10:56 PM |
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Right!
Ukraine has permission to overthrow the Russian government..
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