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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Israel, stop killing
Thread: Israel, stop killing This thread is 14 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 · «PREV
Blizzard
Blizzard


Adventuring Hero
May Contain Nuts
posted November 02, 2023 10:30 PM
Edited by Blizzard at 22:42, 02 Nov 2023.

It's really difficult to take a strong pro-Palestinian stance while an illegitimate government has control of so much territory (it isn't exclusively Hamas in Gaza btw... there are terrorist groups active in the West Bank as well).

But, here is currently the predicament:

1: If the Israelis laid down their arms tomorrow, the sequel of the Holocaust would begin. That is not a hysterical or fear-mongering supposition. Hamas has explicitly stated that they want to exterminate them.

2: If Hamas laid down their arms tomorrow, Hamas would be removed as the illegitimate government and the bombings would stop.

See the difference? I know that it is very, very subtle. Super subtle and nuanced. Holocaust versus no holocaust.

I am not using that to morally justify Israel's bombings because I've already stated that there are alternatives, but just to show that these two sides are not equivocal to one another. It is not accurate to say that one is the same as the other.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted November 04, 2023 01:03 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:10, 04 Nov 2023.

France sent its 20 000 tons helicopter carrier in the Eastern Mediterranean to support hospitals from Gaza, by providing capacity relief.

But today, just lol.

Can only support 4 wounded people. You imagine the cost of such military operation - these guys are the biggest losers ever.


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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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Undefeatable Hero
posted November 04, 2023 01:54 PM

I agree with you - that's a pretty bad joke.

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Blizzard
Blizzard


Adventuring Hero
May Contain Nuts
posted November 04, 2023 03:37 PM
Edited by Blizzard at 16:53, 04 Nov 2023.

The stated reason it is there is to provide humanitarian relief.

The purpose of the aircraft carriers in the Eastern Mediterranean is so that countries like Lebanon are aware of that fact. Nobody wants what is happening in Israel to become a wider conflict. So they're like, "Yeah, we are... uhh... sending it there to provide humanitarian relief." France has a large Arab/N. African population who are strongly pro-Palestinian or in some cases pro-Hamas.

Or maybe France is as dumb as we are and likes to spend millions of dollars on nothing in particular. But, there is probably more than one reason why it is there.  

What I don't understand is why France shut down pro-Palestinian protests after Oct 7th. I guess cause they don't want a second wave of riots this year, but imo that is just burying and compressing a bunch of gunpowder that is waiting to go off. Is this a normal thing in France or is it more recent? I've been told that Macron is pretty heavy-handed.

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Blizzard
Blizzard


Adventuring Hero
May Contain Nuts
posted November 18, 2023 03:00 AM
Edited by Blizzard at 03:39, 18 Nov 2023.

For unknown reasons, I somehow watched this entire interview with Mohammad Hijab and Rabbi Shmuley. I was mesmerized I guess. This interview is an example of why Israel/Palestine are completely screwed in terms of peace:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsJYHuGPms&t=894s

The conversation includes the rabbi's daughter selling dildos at one point (not making that up), in case you are wondering how civil it is between the two. An hour straight of mortal combat. I was drinking the entire time.
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yogi
yogi


Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
posted November 18, 2023 08:20 AM

Blizzard said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsJYHuGPms&t=894s



lol wow! how shameful
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Celfious
Celfious


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From earth
posted November 19, 2023 12:18 AM
Edited by Celfious at 00:28, 19 Nov 2023.

It looks like there is no way out of this one.

Billions of people and entire species of humanity are on the table here and some refuse to get along.

If my concern or knowledge mattered I would be asking questions. It seems like it's not up to me. I hope there is good power on top of this. I hope this is God's property.

This world has what it takes to improve all kinds of stuff and keep progressing and make more communities. If we could learn to work together and move along this bread of life down to future generations for more and more lives this planet could be sustainable place for much happiness

I choose to hope and believe the reason it's messed up is because God is in control and the act of life is nothing but going through some deep Spirit filtration.

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Celfious
Celfious


Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
posted November 19, 2023 12:33 AM

Absolute billions of people could start to work with each other on all kinds of progressions and improvements and try to make life good but mortal Kombat on the news today lol

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