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posted October 17, 2024 09:10 PM |
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Pol said:
Germany was the one doing holocaust. And USA was the one who carry on with League of Nations resolution. And absolutely, both events happened in different times.
The Jews and Arabs did coexisted somewhat but also Christians and Jezids and some other various groups (not Zoroastrianians, these were pushed from area long ago.). Whereas is important to note, that neither Arabas and neither Jews were one group.
These were multiple groups, with different religion, values and beliefs. Which is what was keeping the peace.
When this period ended, Muslims massacred Christians and with them done, they focused on jews.
This cauldron of nations, was not a peacuful area, eden on earth or whatever to idealize.
Russia stopped the Nazis. not the US. But wrong thread.
That's the danger of being a minority.
The rest falls in the category of grieviances between the sides, not my fight.
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posted October 17, 2024 10:10 PM |
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purerogue3 said:
Israel is the result of a bad parent who is trying to make up for a previous error (the Holocaust), when no threat existed (from majority Palestianians), ruining the natural balance and creating a major problem.
Well, "20 seconds an google" show that the region has a history of Jews not being safe. Just like they weren't safe in either Western or Eastern Europe. So the problem was already there.
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posted October 17, 2024 10:29 PM |
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But Joe Biden says "we are the UNITED STATES..(goddamnit) there is NOTHING WE CAN'T DO"
Holy crap I cringe so hard every time he does that. THankfully, we will have new things to worry about soon.
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posted October 18, 2024 03:17 AM |
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Jews were already unsafe in Palestine.
And that is now drastically more the case. If what Hamas says with words is accurate with what they would do, there would be Holocaust part 2 if Israel ever dissolved itself. It can never go back to an Arab territory unless the Jewish part of the country evacuated. And I don't mean only the Jewish religion, but just anybody Jewish by association.
Jews would have been safer turning New York or Florida into their "Israel" than actually being given historical Israel back, but that is all water under the bridge. They are now stuck with it and few modern Israelis know of any other place to be.
Back when Britain/the UN re-assigned the territory and made it a new state, sociology and psychology were still young sciences and people didn't sufficiently appreciate that the pre-existing residents weren't going to let it go so easily. The Arabs rejected the resolution from the start but that was ignored. People can complain about the unfairness of it all but if you want to follow causality then it goes back almost infinitely farther than 1948. Don't just arbitrarily stop at that date. It is a human problem, period, which is why the entire world should participate in getting the region back on its feet and healthy. The blame game is not a constructive way to think. What matters is that stuff happened and Israel exists now, and so now the question is what to do about it. The dissolution of Israel is a death sentence for Jews, so something else has to be done.
Saudi Arabia has the right idea with pre 1967 borders and 2 states in my opinion, but the Israeli government would never, ever agree to that because it is now settled and also Hamas doesn't want pre 1967 borders either. Hamas wants a complete takeover, a lot like the IRA did in Northern Ireland except Hamas is more radical and is in some ways a death cult. Hamas soldiers are raised from childhood to celebrate their own death as a triumph.
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posted October 18, 2024 04:29 AM |
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Blizzard said:
Saudi Arabia has the right idea with pre 1967 borders and 2 states in my opinion, but the Israeli government would never, ever agree to that because it is now settled and also Hamas doesn't want pre 1967 borders either. Hamas wants a complete takeover, a lot like the IRA did in Northern Ireland except Hamas is more radical and is in some ways a death cult. Hamas soldiers are raised from childhood to celebrate their own death as a triumph.
Yes, ain't no way to go back.
It's very messy for sure, neither side wll get what they want.. until they don't want to fight anymore. And then the solution is always "temporary" nor does it matter in the end because we are years away from death anyways. I guess that happens when you cross the mid-way point in life.
Saudi Arabia is like the chill guy. Well-fed and not caring about idealogy or wanting anything hard.
They will have their own problems when the oil doesn't cover their expenses..
Having TNT blowing off your pelvis kinda does that.
Really the only problem I have is with any country that has a draft as I literally will trek across siberia if anyone says I have no do anything to 'defend my country'.
Just pay mercernaries, like Putin. Don't be broke.
War should be a choice in modern times. Some people actually like it, enjoy killing. Don't involve the rest of us.
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posted October 18, 2024 05:29 PM |
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Sinwar real stubborn going out with a rifle against a tank like Stalingrad or something.
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Stevie
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posted June 13, 2025 03:53 AM |
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Geny
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posted June 13, 2025 05:38 AM |
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Well see, it's like this: we got 'em planes and we got 'em bombs and droppin' 'em on Gaza and Lebanon got kind o' stale. But then there's 'em Iranian guys with their near nucular sites and whatnot. So that's new and excitin'! And so we bombed 'em.
P.S. I've been up since 3AM (It's currently 6:39 here). I might not be thinking clearly.
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posted June 13, 2025 06:34 AM |
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Geny
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posted June 13, 2025 07:14 AM |
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Guess I should've played more Elden Ring and got gud at dodging for this.
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posted June 13, 2025 12:08 PM |
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Blizzard said:
Jews were already unsafe in Palestine.
Why I don't read until the end?.. Because you are blizzardler with no knowings..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews
So "fake" Jews are Israelis.. But Palestine voted Hamas in accidentally.. Today you can see Gaza.. How do I knew that Israel takes their country.. If you remembered..
@Stevie, Geny
No worries.. Alarm is one theater..
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posted June 13, 2025 04:35 PM |
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@ghost
A Wikipedia link to Palestinian Jews.... ok?
"Fake Jew" / "Real Jew" is not important in the conversation. Extremist groups try to make a distinction between "real Jews" and "fake Jews" but the perception of being a Jew is what really affects people. Nobody is going to ask a person about their lineage to see if they're a "real Jew." Whoever you are talking to that is making these distinctions is an extremist.
When Geny got inside his fighter jet and killed all of those Iranian commanders last night, he was perceived as Jewish. That is what matters.
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posted June 13, 2025 08:11 PM |
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Geny, go to the bunker. Iran just launched ICBMs at you. You have max 12 minutes.
If you have internet and can read this message, that bunker doesn't have enough concrete. Get another one.
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posted June 13, 2025 08:36 PM |
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Thank you for your concern. This is not our first time being attack by Iranian missiles. It happened twice in the last year and a half. I get timely alerts to my phone and alarms blaring through the city when needed.
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posted June 14, 2025 02:14 AM |
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Israel's actual goal with their new operation in Iran btw is regime change, not just setting back their nuclear goals another several years.
And Iran does have nuclear goals. The uranium at the facility the Israelis bombed was at like 60 percent purity or something, which exceeds what would be used for energy many times over. Weapons grade is 90 percent.
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posted June 14, 2025 04:26 AM |
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Don't know if that's an actual goal. Changing the regime in Iran is certainly something Israel wants. Israel had good relationships with Iran before the Islamic revolution. And yes, Netanyahu did call for the Iranian people to rise, just like he did with Lebanon. But I don't think anyone actually expects it to happen.
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posted June 14, 2025 11:33 AM |
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Edited by phe at 11:38, 14 Jun 2025.
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Such a pity, a coutry desiring atomic weapon can't shoot down 10-20 enemy planes...
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Ghost
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posted June 14, 2025 11:47 AM |
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blizzard said:
@ghost
A Wikipedia link to Palestinian Jews.... ok?
"Fake Jew" / "Real Jew" is not important in the conversation. Extremist groups try to make a distinction between "real Jews" and "fake Jews" but the perception of being a Jew is what really affects people. Nobody is going to ask a person about their lineage to see if they're a "real Jew." Whoever you are talking to that is making these distinctions is an extremist.
When Geny got inside his fighter jet and killed all of those Iranian commanders last night, he was perceived as Jewish. That is what matters.
Yeah I thought you will understood, but you showed your package of thought.. Because of your 2-1 and 1-2 aren't the same thought.. If you will understand now.. Ok you wanted so, I remember that you are fine religious person, so you know about the Bible said that false/fake Jews between real Jews.. Thus the Bible predicted King David is coming back, and he brings real Israelite flag.. No funny, if it comes from Palestine.. But you can decide that what you accept or think about the Bible meanings in the easiest way.. The God accepts you then..
Iran? Terrorist state, of course, it belonged to the evil axis with Russia, North Korea.. And maybe many Iranians can't satisfy their law.. And Geny doesn't wear Jew costume, etc Geny is a pure Israeli..
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posted June 14, 2025 07:08 PM |
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Pol said @Germany was the one doing holocaust@
True! A very sick-minded action! If Hitler succeeded and later fell.. In the distant future, skeletons will be found, but it will be harder to identify the species*.. I believe the last species murder** is Jews plus later on blacks, etc You know Nazi propaganda told about black monkeys..
*It depends on DNA technology by Nazi?!
**I use many special words, it needs proper English, what I can't say.. Ok earlier species were dead, those were people i.e. homo species..
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posted June 14, 2025 08:06 PM |
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Geny said:
Don't know if that's an actual goal. Changing the regime in Iran is certainly something Israel wants. Israel had good relationships with Iran before the Islamic revolution. And yes, Netanyahu did call for the Iranian people to rise, just like he did with Lebanon. But I don't think anyone actually expects it to happen.
It worked in Lebanon. Not a 180 of course but Lebanon is different today than 2 years ago after much of the higher leadership either fell apart or was killed by the Israelis. You guys have a high rate of success in the assassination business. 
Iran is held together by a religious ideaologue that the people venerate, so there will be no bottom up revolution in Iran, but there can still be a governmental change.
And it's what the US wants too, which gives Israel deeper pockets. Officially: no involvement. Unofficially: the US bi-partisanly wants a new kind of Iran.
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