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lkru33
Promising
Famous Hero
3x NFL Pick'em Champ
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posted June 14, 2005 02:34 PM |
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Personally I like Shatki He starts with Offense and Tactics (2 of my favorite skills) and usually gets great skills offered to him... earth, armor, logistics. I know his specialty is Trogs, so at a level 20, the specialty won't stack up against the likes of Hack or Tazar... but still a good hero.
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gnohmon
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 20, 2005 08:08 PM |
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I like Kyrre because several times it happened that soon after I got her on my team I got a lucky break!
This is purely superstition, I know...
On an XL map against the AI perhaps the best hero to have is Grindan. He starts with Wisdom and Earth, so he can do a controlled TP after gaining only 2 or 3 levels; and on an XL map, surely you will have TP in some mage guild. Grindan may never have the attack stats to match Crag, but he can move armies from town to town, and teleport in to any threatened area with a huge army, help explore the region around a newly-taken town, visit every learning spot (perhaps getting Crag-like attack numbers), and so on.
Labetha also starts with Wisdom and Earth, but Grindan's +350 gold makes him slightly better.
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SirDunco
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2005 06:45 PM |
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i'd have to go for Gelu...simply unbeatable.
As for noncampaign heroes I usualy use Ivor his speciality can come in quite handy, also I belive that Tyris once on higher levels is very good, and not to forget Thorgrim the god of resistance
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gnohmon
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 01, 2005 07:44 PM |
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Quote: i'd have to go for Gelu...simply unbeatable.
His special ability is good, but it costs a bunch of money to upgrade those elves or marksmen to sharpshooters. Over the course of a game, it would be cheaper to buy a Golden Bow from an artifact merchant.
Now, is it fair for me to be comparing Gelu with an ordinary good-archery Ranger who also has the Golden Bow? I think so, because you normally can't use Gelu at all in a normal game, but the Golden Bow is a fairly common artifact -- on a 2-level waterless random XL map, I think you'll get a GB generated more than half the time.
In the right circumstance, though, for example if you had a Rampart and a Castle, and maybe some external dwellings, and if you were rich enough, Gelu could upgrade archers and elves, combining them into a single stack of sharpies, and hand the sharpies off to your "main hero" (and that would be somebody like Crag).
And that would be unbeatable.
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SirDunco
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2005 09:27 PM |
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The strategy i use for Gelu when playing a campaign is speed. Two or three stacks of Shapshooters, Silver Pegasi, Golden Dragons, and the Unicorn... when equiped with good spells and the sharpshooters are in larger numbers then he is unbeatable...It's great to see hunders of liches perish with one attack
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gnohmon
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 01, 2005 09:43 PM |
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Quote: The strategy i use for Gelu when playing a campaign is speed. Two or three stacks of Shapshooters, Silver Pegasi, Golden Dragons, and the Unicorn... when equiped with good spells and the sharpshooters are in larger numbers then he is unbeatable...It's great to see hunders of liches perish with one attack
Absolutely, the Gelu campaign is fun because he makes it so easy! They give you plenty of external elf dwellings to help things along, and Rampart towns to grow more, and Rampart has mostly fast units, as you say. I usually have multiple stacks of sharpshooters with Gelu.
Of course, Sandro is even stronger in the campaign where he raises liches from the dead :-) but that requires a special artifact. (the pieces aren't all that rare, I've assembled it in a game or two).
Without the special arty, Sandro is just another necro leader, but Gelu is always special.
If you are playing anything other than Castle or Rampart, Gelu won't do you much good.
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SirDunco
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2005 09:52 PM |
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Well yes since his specialty aplies only to those castles just like a fortress hero with Gorgons speciality is not of much use in rampart...
If you have played Armagedons Blade campaign there you will understand the benefit of his speed when using him
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tigris
Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
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posted July 01, 2005 10:51 PM |
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As far as i can see 3 big categories of heroes stand out of the crowd.I'm talking about the ones that have as speciality Logistics, Offense and Armourer.Born log are often banned so everybody would want to get their hands on a powerfull might hero.
3 heroes have armourer speciality:Neela,Mephala and Tazar of course.Them two ladies are indead tough and i don't want to be considered a misogyn but...
Neela(1/1/2/2) starts with scholar,which means one skill lost for main hero.Also, being an alchemist she is mostly concearned of improuving her knoledges so at lvl 10 she might look something like 4/4/4/4 and that's according to the manual, but in practice she will be more like 3/3/3/7. Not much of a might hero is she?
Mephala(1/3/1/1)has a fairly better start than her blue rivale and even though rangers are more inclined to receive defense bonuses when advancing in levels, she is still going to have skills similar to 4/8/2/2 acording to the manual, when in practice it may aswell be 4/7/3/2 or even worse. This isn't a tragedy though.IMHO the main reason for people having second thoughts about picking this lady as main is her secondary skill advancement.The fact is she gets crap skills most of the time.No earth magic, no tactics, no air magic to name only a few key ones.
Last but not least we have Tazar(0/4/1/1).He is a beastmaster and these fellows are all defence.Any beastmaster will be atleast 3/9/2/2 at level 10 but most of the times they will have defence 10 or higher.Tazar's speciality and exp Armourer skill alone decrease the damage dealt by attacking units by {15%(exp armourer)+10*0,75%(speciality)} that's 37,5% less damage.Starting with adv armourer has it's backside cos sometimes you refuse the 1st skill offered only to be forced to choose between artillery and scouting the next level
Overall though, i think Taz has the biggest chances of the 3 to be offered good skills.
Moving on to the offensive side, we only meet 2 fighters, both representing the often underrated castle called stronghold.
Gundula is fairly decent, but starting with wisdom often means a lost slot in your skills.Also, being a battle mage, she often prefer magic instead of brute force (as madies usually do ).Her big advantage is the fact that she starts with a spell book and with slow as starting spell.This could prouve helpfull in many situations, so not a hero to be neglected.
Crag hack(4/0/1/1) on the other hand is a genuine killer. At level 10(10/3/1/2) he already increases the damage inflicted by his units by (30%{exp offense}+10*1,5%{speciality}) that's a staggering 45%.
He suffers the same problem as Tazar though: starting with advanced offense may prouve risky sometimes.
Angelito's thread about Armourer and Offense is very explicit so anyone can take his decision about his favorite.
In the end everybody admits that the magic era is over and now might heroes rule on multiplayer games.
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Danos
Hired Hero
Loyal Hero of the Light
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posted July 03, 2005 02:16 PM |
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My favorite hero would be Gelu and I think he might be the best although I won't rely too much on the sharpshooters when attacking a castle, but this is a special hero.So, from the normal HoMM heroes, I think Tazar would be my choice.And, from the WoG heroes, Nagash.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted July 03, 2005 05:45 PM |
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Quote: Personally I like Shatki He starts with Offense and Tactics (2 of my favorite skills) and usually gets great skills offered to him... earth, armor, logistics. I know his specialty is Trogs, so at a level 20, the specialty won't stack up against the likes of Hack or Tazar... but still a good hero.
the shak attack isnt about long games, its about an instant attack.
shak is the only hero rdy to take small cons day 1.
So you smash your way through the blocks the first 2 week for a quick week 3 battle.
Needless to say shak does best at really poor maps and preferbly lots of cons/hives.
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Axel
Hired Hero
Centaur Master
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posted July 03, 2005 09:45 PM |
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Gelu and Mutare are the best but I like
Castle:Tyris
Rampart:Ivor
Tower:Solmyr
Stronghold:Yog
Necropolis:Nagash
Dungeonax
Infernoyre
Fortress:Bron
Conflux:Ciele
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aZtraL
Hired Hero
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posted July 06, 2005 03:28 PM |
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I like SirMullich - For the speed
Solmyr for he's spell spec
astral for hes spell spec
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted July 06, 2005 04:06 PM |
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I like Ufretin and Ryland most
They are the only heroes in the game (except SirMullich) who can raise the speed of a unit by 33% without a spell or an artefact..
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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
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posted July 06, 2005 04:19 PM |
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really? how? i dunno what Ufretin has but ryland has unicorns right. how can be the only ones to speed up the unit
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted July 06, 2005 04:49 PM |
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The hero with unicorns is Clancy....
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted July 06, 2005 04:53 PM |
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Ok...i did that about 4 or 5 times already, but....what the heck...
Castle: Orrin
Rampart: Mephala
Tower: Neela
Stronghold: Crag Hack
Necropolis: Galthran
Dungeon: Gunnar
Inferno: Pyre
Fortress: Tazar
Conflux: Monere
Overall, itīs Crag, then Gunnar and then Tazar
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tigris
Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
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posted July 06, 2005 04:58 PM |
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Quote: I like Ufretin and Ryland most
They are the only heroes in the game (except SirMullich) who can raise the speed of a unit by 33% without a spell or an artefact..
U forgot Straker
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted July 06, 2005 06:10 PM |
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True....but i hate zombies..
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klauts
Famous Hero
lost in a mourning hall!
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posted July 06, 2005 06:41 PM |
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Quote:
Castle: Orrin
Rampart: Mephala
Tower: Neela
Stronghold: Crag Hack
Necropolis: Galthran
Dungeon: Gunnar
Inferno: Pyre
Fortress: Tazar
Conflux: Monere
Overall, itīs Crag, then Gunnar and then Tazar
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a few corrections..
u forget bout Christian..
and Isra for necro
and the overall is Tazar then Crag then Meph
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted July 06, 2005 06:42 PM |
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Quote: True....but i hate zombies..
YOU NOOB!!!
ZOMBIE WILL ON YOU LAY MIGHTY DISEASE!!!!!!
BECAUSE ZOMBIES IS DA BOMB!!!!!!!
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