Actually is the opposite. Oryx is collecting data from random Ukrainian twitter accounts, which are sending photos and that's all, there is nobody on the terrain. Mediazona is investigating through social media posts by relatives, local media reports, and statements by local authorities. Government can hide casualties, families very unlikely.
Salamandre said:Actually is the opposite. Oryx is collecting data from random Ukrainian twitter accounts, which are sending photos and that's all, there is nobody on the terrain. Mediazona is investigating through social media posts by relatives, local media reports, and statements by local authorities. Government can hide casualties, families very unlikely.
Just say, you like one source and doesn't like the other.
I have never mentioned human casualties in my post so why are you again trying to derail the topic by presenting an unrelated argument - and, in addition, accusing me of bias?
The facts I stated are rather simple: Russians are losing a crapton of vehicles. And if they are losing a crapton of vehicles, does this mean the war is over and Ukraine lost? I guess not, seeing that after almost 2 years, Russians didn't achieve any of their ambitious goals.
Also "sending photos and that's all" is enough. What more evidence do you need? A photographed wreck means Russians lost another piece of equipment. Sometimes quite expensive equipment, for example the TOS-1. So unless you want to say something along the lines of "Oryx fabricates the photos", there is nothing to discuss here. The source can be Ukrainian, Russian, even Martian - if it shows a smoldering wreck, this means that yet another Russian vehicle has been destroyed. That's it.
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So Russians started with (for example) 2200 tanks and ends up with 4000+ despite ~2500 confirmed tank losses?
That's a rather lousy way to represent reality because those 2200 tanks were just (iirc) initial invasion forces.
Russia should have started with the total number of tanks and gradually go down from there because that's what happened in reality.
Too bad nobody knows (not even Russians) how many tanks does Russia have, because they have thousands of poorly serviced T72, T80. Nobody really knows how many of those can be fitted to run again.
So, such a infograph is pretty much impossible to make for Russian army.
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HotA? Much better was VCMI, Forge. Ok I realized Doomforge is HotA'er..
Russia wanted Statue of Liberty moves to Moscow.. Russia said true democracy and freedom in Russia.. I can't recommend to Doomforge moves to Moscow, but you can..
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Yes Russia is strong.. Think about modern USA lost to Vietnam.. I don't feel to write, because your brain says no.. The best you wait for the winner of the war.. Why? NWO or not.. When the war can't be won.. Do you remember what the West said? The war can't be won!..
The Ivans don't need to have anywhere close to even 1:1 casualties or loses of armor or other equipment with the horse people. Russia now has wartime capacity production. What that means is that a very large number of jobs in the Putin Federation are coming from building stuff that is used in Ukraine.
CNN (Salamandre's #1 favorite news source) wrote about how a "forever war" is likely Putin's goal, because actually taking Ukraine and installing a puppet government seems very unlikely at this point.
In sum, the West and the Putin Federation are not on an equal footing in terms of what they are willing to sacrifice. The value systems are significantly different. Putin & his advisors are perfectly aware of this.
Google translated: "Russia must be made to pay for the damage it has caused to Ukraine - part of the compensation funds are already in the possession of Western countries."
Ok a new fact that JWs said Russia can't lose the war, thus eighth superpower is coming, and superpower is UN.. When Russia is still in the UN.. Superpower UN destroys the religion..
If Russia loses the war, or kick out from UN, so all religion is garbage then.. Simple! But UN is ready, you find on the internet.. Unreality? This thread isn't belief or NWO..
Good NATO, when my school teacher told that if USA or Russia does wrong, we join them, now we know Russia, and we joined to NATO.. Finland is skillful!
Yes, there would have been no bombing of Yugoslavia, no invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, no destruction of the prosperous state of Libya. And there would have been no wars in human history at all, if not for the Kremlin (it doesn't sound very logical, really - but the level of thinking here is about the same as that of most russophobes).
Seriously speaking, the reason for this war, as well as subsequent wars that will happen in the near future, is the convulsive attempts of the USA to hold on to its slipping power over the world.
The economies of the Western bloc countries are going down, except for the USA, which is parasitizing on its "allies". Countries that are not part of this bloc are now successfully developing. Many "allies" of the USA would like to slip away from these tenacious embraces, but it will be difficult to do so, since the entire "elite" of these countries has been carefully nurtured by the USA, this "elite" is a gathering of grant-eaters who do not care about the interests of their countries and peoples.
Charrclaw said:if Kremlin wasn't filled with corrupt and incapable morons
There wouldn't be any war.
If post-Maidan Kiev didn't start erasing Russian language, literature and culture there wouldn't be any war. This could've been over in 2014, but Kremlin refused to act. Now we have bloodshed.
You are right, the Kremlin should have acted in 2014, then there would not have been this bloodshed. All the time when the West was cultivating anti-Russia in Ukraine (from the late 90s to the present), the Kremlin was counting on mutual economic interests with Ukraine, on the inevitability of peaceful coexistence. It underestimated the West's determination and its ability to create a conflict. After all, Zelensky, before being elected president in 2019, promised to peacefully resolve the conflict in Donbass, but deceived his voters - because he had to fulfill the task for his Western customers.
But it is useless to explain anything to such people - it is something like religious fanaticism. Russophobia is incurable.
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posted September 09, 2024 12:44 AM
Ben80 said:Seriously speaking, the reason for this war, as well as subsequent wars that will happen in the near future, is the convulsive attempts of the USA to hold on to its slipping power over the world.
Responding to bad behavior with more bad behavior doesn’t solve anything; it only deepens the damage.
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