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Thread: Heroes 5 HoF Strategy: Playing Fortress Faction This thread is 13 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 · «PREV / NEXT»
sylvian_prince
sylvian_prince


Hired Hero
the ranged hanter
posted December 07, 2006 07:19 PM

very important information...but i could'nt anderstand how to use this runes.... are they for only one day and i cant use them anymore? and how i can activate them and what i need for the activation? pls help me.....

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TowerLord
TowerLord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted December 08, 2006 11:49 AM

just watch the battle screen carefully...around the atb bar there are the runes also ... every creature has the possibility to use a rune on itself, of course by spending the amount of resources, only once / battle, more if you have special abilities ... the runes are really great because you don't waste a hero turn or a creature turn, and they have the effect of some powerfull spells. the downside is that you waste resources, but the costs aren't that big, so they are really great

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted December 08, 2006 01:26 PM

and there is the fine rune skill. and the runecasting guy. In the end you will cast the runes for free 90% of the time.

The problem is getting the correct runes from the guild. You may receive some crappy ones, which is not good. The best are rune of berserking(huge damage), rune of resurection(wonderful one!), rune of thunderclap (great with skirmishers, almost totally disables even fast units!) and a few more.

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TowerLord
TowerLord


Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted December 08, 2006 05:38 PM

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and there is the fine rune skill. and the runecasting guy. In the end you will cast the runes for free 90% of the time.

The problem is getting the correct runes from the guild. You may receive some crappy ones, which is not good. The best are rune of berserking(huge damage), rune of resurection(wonderful one!), rune of thunderclap (great with skirmishers, almost totally disables even fast units!) and a few more.


yep ... these runes make you wonder why they are so cheap ? when the mini artifacts are so expensive

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Ma_trix
Ma_trix


Adventuring Hero
Carpe Diem
posted December 08, 2006 05:53 PM

Runes are pretty cheap used once, two times and so on but they may become expensive cause their effect is one-turn-long. I think that runes are pretty ballanced and problem is elsewhere - mini artifacts are a bit too expensive. I'd rather Ubi made their cost like 4 - 8 - 12 or 3 - 6 - 9/10.
What about runes - i think that most important rune at the beginning is the rune of charge. It's really important to reach enemy shooters as fast as possible n this rune gies opportunity to do it in one turn.

I am still interested in hero's leveling priorities - which skills to choose?
N how would you develop your city during first weeks? (at hard level of resources n heroic of difficulty )

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Fofa
Fofa


Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
posted December 09, 2006 01:55 AM

For a town that prefers living underground, they sure use up a lot of wood.

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sylvian_prince
sylvian_prince


Hired Hero
the ranged hanter
posted December 09, 2006 08:12 PM

thx.... a great town it is much better than academies specalization-artifacts...... what the prefered hero than? and why?

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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted December 31, 2006 07:58 PM

I have found Fortress very strong in the end game and possible the strongest in the game. It's just incredibly powerfull to play whit Runes and in end game you have enough resourses to make those trible cast runes whit no problemo.

Only downside is the early game when mosth creatures needs to be upgradet before they come good enough for your army. Also the town buildings casting are huge and i tough they have made Dwarven town the weakeast when creature dwellings needs so mutch gems. If there aren't gem factory around you are in troble when both lv6 and lv5 creatures buildings needs LOTS of those resources.

Magma Dragons are quite powerfull and really hard to kill in battles. Dwelling can be made on second or third week when resourse silo is made.

Heroes: Brand: 70% change (+1% per every level) that no resourses are used when activating runes! Very good but in end games the casting dosent mather. Good hero for small maps for sure!

Karli: Skirmisher speciality and starting whit ammo cart is very good! Possible best Dwarven hero.

Ebba: Blackbear Riders i like very mutch and they are strong from their level and boosting their attack and defense really helps. Blackbear Riders may come really powerfull whit Ebba in charge. (Was nice Duel hero aswell)

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varth
varth

Tavern Dweller
posted January 04, 2007 12:08 PM

I remember that one time when in last HoF mission my thanes with battle rage hit a chain of 5x1,5K enforcers four times, totaling 14K damage, or 824,5 dmg per thane (without luck). Endgame, storm strike +rage/berserking can be a killer on tightly packed formations.

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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted January 11, 2007 10:07 AM
Edited by Vlaad at 14:33, 12 Jan 2007.

Siege tips...!
Quote:
I'm getting really angry at the guardpost.  You can have a castle with one peasant and 900 shieldguards who are slowly whittled down while the towers shoot and shoot.  I feel the shieldguards (from the guard post, not real ones) should act like summoned creatures and the battle should end as soon all the real troops are killed.
I've just finished an epic siege against Fortress. My main wasn't able to kill all the shieldguards and capture the town. I had only animated units left, so she was defeated. The AI would have recruited a new hero in the town, who would have those 1.5k guards again. So I had to bring in a secondary hero to attack the town on the same day.

When I loaded in order to try different options, I also noticed an interesting feature: the defender, who lost all his "real" troops but won the battle thanks to the guards, disappeared from the town. He returned to the hero pool. Now, the interesting feature is this: while I was waiting for my next turn (while the AI was playing its), a pop-up window appeared! That hero gained a level and I was asked to choose a skill. The following day I was able to recruit him in my tavern.

I've checked: if the hero who disappers gains a level but does not appear in your tavern, you do not get to choose his skills.

EDIT: In addition, I've tested what happens when you defend the town, lose all your "real" creatures but win the battle. Your hero gains levels and get the enemy artifacts, but disappears from the town. You can recruit him in the Tavern though. He will have one guard.

Is this a bug: my Ebba had the Ballista ability (which is supposed to restore this war machine after the battle); but she didn't have any when I recruited her again.
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Shauku83
Shauku83


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 12, 2007 02:25 PM

All Warmachines are always lost once you retreat and rehire. It is not related to skills or abilities.

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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted January 12, 2007 02:31 PM

Quote:
All Warmachines are always lost once you retreat and rehire. It is not related to skills or abilities.
Thanks for the clarification.
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theluCas
theluCas


Adventuring Hero
thiNk
posted January 12, 2007 03:03 PM
Edited by theluCas at 15:22, 12 Jan 2007.

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hopefully after the next patch, the cost will be lowered. and i will agree with the rest! fortress are pretty good... I played that last mission against lazzlo! I was totally underpowered, his army was bigger then mine... I survied on those runes! Res rune on if they are dying, else use a thunderclap to hold them back, make hero fire lots of magic... and then just press def. while your ranged unites and hero does all the work... I lost a lot but only after the battle as i found out that res rune is just like basic raise dead... :S


Where can i find informations about new patches???

Fortress heroes specials sucks

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted January 12, 2007 03:37 PM

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Where can i find informations about new patches???

Fortress heroes specials sucks


Here I suppose: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/1851065692
Nothing new yet.

What? Which of them do you not like? I see a more useful selection than most factions both special and skill-wise.
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FreshHope
FreshHope


Adventuring Hero
Defender of Light
posted January 12, 2007 06:56 PM

Hmm check out Ingvar, who shines above all the other faction heroes with similar tier 1 specialty, and not to mention Helmar as well.  Fortress heroes are one of the best, worthy of their creatures imho

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theluCas
theluCas


Adventuring Hero
thiNk
posted January 13, 2007 12:21 PM

Quote:
Hmm check out Ingvar, who shines above all the other faction heroes with similar tier 1 specialty, and not to mention Helmar as well.  Fortress heroes are one of the best, worthy of their creatures imho


Ingvar is not so good compared to sinitar, jhora, nur, dougal, vittorio, deleb. So that second hero with sacred hammer.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted January 13, 2007 01:25 PM

You should check Carli then. Build citadel, bears, spearwielders in week 1 and upg the bears on the first day of week 2 and you'll see what I mean If you also get warmachines and focus on these two skills you'll have some nice offensive capabilities.
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FreshHope
FreshHope


Adventuring Hero
Defender of Light
posted January 13, 2007 06:38 PM

Karli is another good one indeed.  As for Ingvar, he shines above the rest of the tier 1 specialists because on top of the +1 to attack and defense ratings for every 2 lvls of the hero, he also adds +1 hit point to each defender and shieldguard for every 5 lvls of the hero.  I played a map that has Ingvar as the endgame boss, and the shieldguards under him have 22 hit points each!
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted January 13, 2007 10:27 PM

Look, Ingvar and his massive shieldguard stack in day 2 can kill almost anything with few losses. Be it melee or ranged. The funny thing is that if you allow the enemies to hit you first from as far as possible you have even less casualties
My favourite is Carli though and by a long shot. He can even get preparation which along with a runic triple ballista/or destructive(rarely) and luck->soldier's luck, maybe dwarven luck is just crazy. He does not even need to upg defenders as his spearwielders with ammo cart can get the job done! On week 2 you charge with blackbear riders and spearwielders(citadel built) and just stun around! Very disruptive.
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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted January 13, 2007 11:57 PM

If you get Charge rune.  What is is the % chance to get it?  I know that I don't always get it...also thunderclap (rune) doesn't trigger that often for me although crippling wound (skirmisher) does trigger fairly often.

Personally I like the hero that learns the runes when leveling up.  No chance of missing the best ones.
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