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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: WCL: We want to fight you!
Thread: WCL: We want to fight you! This thread is 15 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 · «PREV / NEXT»
forrest
forrest

Tavern Dweller
posted July 22, 2007 11:06 PM

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well forest first of all, there is no critisism to anything. Second as i mentioned before, i had 2 option. Alamar was chosen soley for the purpose of teachin it to main. Secondly at the stats i had, gladius was not a high priority as my def was low anyway. Only thing i regret is not takin the boots.Third as u saw without a main power stack, things had to be devoted to collecting wavyerns.(the hives were quite well scatered). But as i said, if i just took the firt 4 hives, and attacked, then could have easily broken and had a better chance. But once again, what has happened has, happens, we cannot change it, hence lesson learned

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forrest
forrest

Tavern Dweller
posted July 22, 2007 11:07 PM

Naturally not Alamarom in utopia and tirasikorom. Artefakts on magic were lighted.

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iwannarefresh
iwannarefresh


Hired Hero
newbie
posted July 23, 2007 04:05 AM

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great games were done. and even more great games to follow
for saves of Devangel - Paladin game are click here


Very good game!! Make me very interesting to follow And i can learn some lessions from here. The way Town Portal by retreat, or upgrading 80 Lizard to attack cons, and planning things... made me light Thanks for sharing!
Dungeon without high level dwelling is not very lethal, you see Dev hehe. When i played at Paladin day 3 (or 4?), i found a Hyddra Pond as well. He was lucky and have some advantage, high level dwellings, more cons, more hives, Pandora has 80 Lizard... But after all, both players are very skilled and make me impressed.
Looking forward to see some other games And hope i can play some of you hehe

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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted July 23, 2007 06:20 AM

hi

Congrats to all players for the games, I didn't have time yet for saves but 2night i'll take a good look at them. Still waiting for the other 2 games that were played, especially the game that Maretti won!Very interrested in it!
Good luck to all and waiting for other opinions about the games played.
Cheers!

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Balamut
Balamut


Adventuring Hero
posted July 23, 2007 10:06 AM
Edited by Balamut at 10:10, 23 Jul 2007.

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Still waiting for the other 2 games that were played, especially the game that Maretti won!Very interrested in it!

Here you are:
Maretti - DC_Vasya game saves

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_XSI_
_XSI_

Tavern Dweller
posted July 23, 2007 10:33 AM

XSI VS ALEX THE GREAT

Hi,

As you asked, there is my game vs Alex, link below.

http://www.heroes.xz.lt/Webas/H3_Online/Geimai/XSI_vs_Alex_the_great.rar

Enjoy

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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted July 23, 2007 10:46 AM

hi

Thx a lot!
Time for study now
Cheers!

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Balamut
Balamut


Adventuring Hero
posted July 23, 2007 11:49 AM

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I can probably play all day wedensday.

Stinger can play with you starting from 16.00 (London time).
Paladin will be ready to substitute him if something go wrong.
And may be AlexTheGreat will try to intercept you earlier this day - I don't know his work shedule.

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Conanthebarbar
Conanthebarbar


Hired Hero
posted July 23, 2007 12:22 PM

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Very good game!! Make me very interesting to follow And i can learn some lessions from here. The way Town Portal by retreat, or upgrading 80 Lizard to attack cons, and planning things... made me light Thanks for sharing!
Dungeon without high level dwelling is not very lethal, you see Dev hehe. When i played at Paladin day 3 (or 4?), i found a Hyddra Pond as well. He was lucky and have some advantage, high level dwellings, more cons, more hives, Pandora has 80 Lizard... But after all, both players are very skilled and make me impressed.
Looking forward to see some other games And hope i can play some of you hehe


Well I do not share your opinion. The dungeon player showed quite average skills. It is surprising that a player who 'scares' others 'I will break wk 2 d1 on Jebus', was not able to do this a week later even!

Week 3 and boots of speed and titan gladius are still untouched, however Tyraxor had expert tactic early and these arties were guarded by shooters only. Not mentioning the gloves behind cyclops king. Also the 'terrible' chaos hydras would be beatalbe with mass slow + shooters + titan gladius week 2. Anyway I wonder why to collect wyverns to break? If the game would go without cons and hives rules, then should wait for week4 population? Or Tazar should open the way?

Perhaps the 'Devangel-fanclub' will not like these notes, but I wonder how can someone have such record (44-1) on a really luck-based template like Jebus with such quality of play... It is like you win all rounds in a poker tourney, does not matter what cards you get! A few years ago at least a dozen of MSN-zone players would show much higher resisstance than he did in this game.

However for the truth must note that Fortress had big edge in all sense and even with perfect play would be hard to stop him.

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lkru33
lkru33


Promising
Famous Hero
3x NFL Pick'em Champ
posted July 23, 2007 12:36 PM

@Conan - Perhaps you should have stepped forward when challenged.  Easy for you to sit on the sideline and criticize, but when called upon for 5 players, Conan's name was nowhere to be found.  If you think you can do so much better, put your money where your mouth is.

To all who have competed, great job!! Sometimes in random games, balance isn't perfect, but everyone seemed to make the most of their situation.  Thank you for sharing your saves with the community... this will help all of us learn from actual game scenarios at a high level.

Good luck to Marettiolator and Xarfax (if he plays) in the next games
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted July 23, 2007 12:42 PM

Maybe there is a chance to get a 2vs2 tourney between these 2 leagues going end of the year. I'm pretty sure some great games would happen there
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pacifist
pacifist


Famous Hero
posted July 23, 2007 12:55 PM

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Hi,

As you asked, there is my game vs Alex, link below.

http://www.heroes.xz.lt/Webas/H3_Online/Geimai/XSI_vs_Alex_the_great.rar

Enjoy


Ouch, those minos are deadly! First game we see with an external highlevel dwelling for dungeon starting player. Seems to me the WCL players didn't have luch with dwellings in all games.Anyway very well played and enjoyable game. Maybe building the city halls was not appropriate for this template since the players meet very early, no?
I wonder what happened after the last savegame? Did Satki reach Sir Mullich next turn or did you just see his army and gave up?

Thanks for the saves, hope you get an opportunity for a rematch later

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Conanthebarbar
Conanthebarbar


Hired Hero
posted July 23, 2007 12:56 PM

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@Conan - Perhaps you should have stepped forward when challenged.  Easy for you to sit on the sideline and criticize, but when called upon for 5 players, Conan's name was nowhere to be found.  If you think you can do so much better, put your money where your mouth is.

To all who have competed, great job!! Sometimes in random games, balance isn't perfect, but everyone seemed to make the most of their situation.  Thank you for sharing your saves with the community... this will help all of us learn from actual game scenarios at a high level.

Good luck to Marettiolator and Xarfax (if he plays) in the next games


I am not high-ranked, man, I am not even in Top10! And frankly speaking I do not much care so much points either (started WCL around April only), like others. I was not invited to play by anyone and would be not fair to take away places from higher ranked players anyway. However 'higher rank' means not much as I see in this game...

You immediately start to flame instead of thinking! However who plays or not at this event has nothing to do having an option, right? The saves are published to comment and to learn from them anyway, right? You do this latter one, I do the first one, LKru33. And I am sure there are many players (including me of course) who would do much better, even if it hurts to hear, sorry. Trust me, after 2000 online games I can judge players strength. But of course this is just an option and all goes on its way, gl for players!

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Devangle1984
Devangle1984


Known Hero
I am the Dark Vader
posted July 23, 2007 01:00 PM

@ conan, anyway why collect wayverns ? i rest my case. If u read my posts earlier all your other questions would have been answered.And u donot know me nor have u ever played me, so how would u know i scare other opponent .


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lkru33
lkru33


Promising
Famous Hero
3x NFL Pick'em Champ
posted July 23, 2007 01:17 PM

Where Ĺ of your post shared your opinion on what you would have done (nothing wrong with your opinion), the other Ĺ  was nothing but a flame towards another player who is sharing his saves to the world: Iím curious how any of the community could learn from your criticism below:

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It is surprising that a player who 'scares' others 'I will break wk 2 d1 on Jebus', was not able to do this a week later even!


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Perhaps the 'Devangel-fanclub' will not like these notes, but I wonder how can someone have such record (44-1) on a really luck-based template like Jebus with such quality of play... It is like you win all rounds in a poker tourney, does not matter what cards you get! A few years ago at least a dozen of MSN-zone players would show much higher resisstance than he did in this game.


Anyhow, I donít want to tarnish this thread with a flamewar, just didnít feel it was right to ridicule a player that is sharing his saves for our benefit.

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Conanthebarbar
Conanthebarbar


Hired Hero
posted July 23, 2007 01:54 PM

Yes, you are right! Sorry for it! Lets say then: this was not the best game I have ever seen and I would do things definetely different. (as Devangel wrote, he too!) However I am sure, the outcome would be same...

Must probably I would break much ealier, but with less army Tazar would kill me anyway.
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Balamut
Balamut


Adventuring Hero
posted July 23, 2007 02:19 PM
Edited by Balamut at 14:23, 23 Jul 2007.

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I can probably play all day wedensday.


Bayazet joined list of players that will seek you wednesday after 16.00 by London time.

But I think it would be better if you will play with Stinger first. Cause he is the one from our team, who didn't play yet in this tournament.

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Devangle1984
Devangle1984


Known Hero
I am the Dark Vader
posted July 23, 2007 02:21 PM

Damn its gang attack he he. Well good luck to all players.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted July 23, 2007 02:43 PM
Edited by SAG at 16:09, 23 Jul 2007.

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I can probably play all day wedensday.


Bayazet joined list of players that will seek you wednesday after 16.00 by London time.

But I think it would be better if you will play with Stinger first. Cause he is the one from our team, who didn't play yet in this tournament.

I would expect Stinger -Xarfax game as far as they both haven't played yet...

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Xarfax111 posted:
...i would like to play on Friday 27, if that is ok.

Im in Germany one hour further than Great Britain time. So ill be available at 8pm German time..if thats ok.

Xarfax, 8pm in Germany is 10pm in Russia, i don't expect that players will be interested in games till 2-3a.m. Can you find some more suitable time? Best is Saturday on Sunday morning or noon, or 4pm CET during work-days Strange, but 8pm in Germany (10pm in Russia) is ok for Stinger. He plays through Hamachi only. I will send you Hamachi network details by HC Messenger.

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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted July 23, 2007 02:56 PM

Just out of curiosity....

Will there be other games than just Tower vs Dungeon vs Inferno? (1 fortress 1 saw as of yet).

Necro and Flux banned.
Castle, Stronghold, Rampart obviously "ruled out" by players.
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