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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 (397) 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Brukernavn
Brukernavn


Famous Hero
posted June 06, 2011 01:47 PM

I'm wondering if we'll get the same deal as with Magic Arrow in H3; same spell in all the different schools. We have fire bolt, lightning bolt, probably ice bolt, and what other spells that deal damage to a single stack. Although spells have other functions as well (for instance soaking), so they won't be exactly the same spell under different names and animations.

But I hope fire bolt deals more damage to a single stack than fireball does, so there's actually a dilemma in choosing. If that's not the case fire bolt is useless after a hero reaches level 10.

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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted June 06, 2011 02:41 PM

Quote:
It was a Q&A which mentioned that there will be more than 200 spells (active and passive)...(eg. active = fireball, passive = logistics).

The 98 spells I am referring to are only magic spells from the 7 magic schools, ie. not including warcries, passive abilities....





I'd call logistics a skill but not a spell... on the other hand 200+ spells would be an awful lot!

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Negativland
Negativland


Promising
Adventuring Hero
but I'm not
posted June 06, 2011 03:26 PM

I wish they also told us how much these spells cost. Also, is there such skill as sorcery anymore, or the spell cost & efficiency are influenced by other factors now?

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Willis
Willis


Known Hero
posted June 06, 2011 03:45 PM

I would like some screenshots of the spells in action, but I'm very happy that they are giving daily tidbits now. I had hoped they would do something like this a while ago. Just 3 weeks and a day until beta!

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted June 06, 2011 04:46 PM

I so hope there will be a spell like "Walking bomb"

That would make the unit explode when it is killed dealing damage to serounding unites.

A nice touch would be, if the explosion had a range of 2 squares and deal bigger damage on the first sguare.

Also it could do damage to the target unite, and it could be casted both on enemy and ally.

But to the topic..

I think there will be 8 magic skill trees
7 of them will fallow the 7 elemental schools
and the last one will be focused on magic support abilities, like sorcery, inteligenc or counter spell (I would welcome this abylitie back from Heroes V)
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Mitzah
Mitzah


Promising
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of the Horadrim
posted June 06, 2011 06:30 PM

Any news if Heroes VI will be shown off at E3 tonight?
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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted June 06, 2011 08:26 PM

It most likely won't. Small-ish team and all that.
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julle
julle


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Simply FABULOUS!
posted June 06, 2011 08:52 PM

I'll yell if it is.

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Mitzah
Mitzah


Promising
Supreme Hero
of the Horadrim
posted June 06, 2011 09:32 PM
Edited by Mitzah at 22:46, 06 Jun 2011.

Quote:
It most likely won't. Small-ish team and all that.


Their presentation video showed some frames from the Heroes VI announcement trailer. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Rayman Origins is the first game presented.
Driver: San Francisco follows.
Far Cry 3 gameplay was shown.
A new Brothers in Arms title and the Adventures of Tin Tin.

They HAVE to show something related to Might and Magic since they're putting an emphasis on Ubisoft's 25 year anniversary.

Stay away from Ghost Recon. :|

Nope, nothing related to Might and Magic.
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julle
julle


Adventuring Hero
Simply FABULOUS!
posted June 06, 2011 10:47 PM

Nothin'

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted June 06, 2011 10:48 PM

No heroes 6 on E3, at least not today D:
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted June 07, 2011 06:21 AM

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But I hope fire bolt deals more damage to a single stack than fireball does, so there's actually a dilemma in choosing. If that's not the case fire bolt is useless after a hero reaches level 10.


Not unless Fireball costs double mana to cast than Firebolt.....

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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted June 07, 2011 07:42 AM

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But I hope fire bolt deals more damage to a single stack than fireball does, so there's actually a dilemma in choosing. If that's not the case fire bolt is useless after a hero reaches level 10.


Maybe the dilemma is whether to spend skill points on upgrading firebolt to fireball, or on one of the other skill trees instead. Or do you know for sure that you automatically upgrade at level 10?

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted June 07, 2011 07:43 AM

You should find them both useful for various reasons.
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted June 07, 2011 10:01 AM

@Crayfish:

Fireball and Firebolt are two different spells, you don't upgrade the one to get the other.....




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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 07, 2011 10:13 AM

And still no screenshots *sigh*

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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted June 07, 2011 10:25 AM
Edited by yasmiel at 10:29, 07 Jun 2011.

2 new ones today:

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Fire Magic
Rank 1 ability (3 ranks available) Fire Magic is more efficient.
Passive ability.

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Frenzy
Rank 3 Ability Target ally or enemy stack instantly attacks the nearest stack with increased Damage.
Does not consume the target's action for the current turn.

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So i guess the "X Magic" skills will take 3/14 (14 for earth, might be different for others) slots.

That is why there seemed to be too many spells. (It still is a nice ammount)

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted June 07, 2011 10:36 AM

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And still no screenshots *sigh*

Obviously because it's not screenshot day !


On a sidenote, I LIKE that version of Frenzy much !

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Mike80D
Mike80D


Famous Hero
Map Maker
posted June 07, 2011 10:39 AM

I really like this version of the spell Frenzy.  Nobody enjoys not controlling their creatures, and this spell doesn't consume the creature's turn.   In addition, instead of doing double damage it only says "increased" damage.  I bet it's somewhere around 1.5x damage.

This is a nice change

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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted June 07, 2011 10:39 AM

Yes, he seems to be mildly aggravated

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