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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 (523) 524 525 ]
Kitten
Kitten


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Roar
posted October 12, 2011 02:00 PM

Guys I got a problem =( My PC says the disc is empty and asks me to name it to later burn something in it... The backside of the disc seems to be of an unused kind too. Should I take a screenshot and email the store?

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Aosaw
Aosaw


Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
posted October 12, 2011 02:00 PM

I think the main problem is that they need someone other than Erwan Smugface McButtons to deliver these statements.  I'm tired of his smirking shenanigans.  Run the project, fine; but get someone else to talk to the players.

Seriously, at this point every time he talks about something not being such a big issue, I want to tweak his nose.

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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted October 12, 2011 02:04 PM

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Also true. I mean they have done a number of things to satisfy the fans even if they did not initially plan the game to be this way. Plus much the feedback we give them comes from the communities. If they didn't care they would not have bothered with.. plenty of things really, including some that have yet to be revealed. Let's just say that they took their time a bit


Only that there had to be an uproar for them to listen. If we didn't show our teeth, there would be no changes. This is not a proper relationship between the community and developers/producers. And their responses back to the community were a bit too late. You can't say that they took their time, to me it looked like as if they waited to see if our voice would die down so that they can ignore it. In certain cases, it didn't and it's only then that they were forced to change some things.



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Wckey
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Famous Hero
posted October 12, 2011 02:16 PM

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Guys I got a problem =( My PC says the disc is empty and asks me to name it to later burn something in it... The backside of the disc seems to be of an unused kind too. Should I take a screenshot and email the store?

Yes. If you can go to the store with the cd or at least call to the store you should do it. Because they can ignore your email, but they can't do the same if you call them.
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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted October 12, 2011 02:17 PM

It's a complicated story but in the end some things have been established. Also.. who says they have been waiting to see if they could get away with it? There's a lot going behind the scenes and the bureocracy does nothing to speed up the process or communicate in public things we have known for months. Like someone said, the bigger the company, the dumber it becomes
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Kitten
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Roar
posted October 12, 2011 02:24 PM

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Guys I got a problem =( My PC says the disc is empty and asks me to name it to later burn something in it... The backside of the disc seems to be of an unused kind too. Should I take a screenshot and email the store?

Yes. If you can go to the store with the cd or at least call to the store you should do it. Because they can ignore your email, but they can't do the same if you call them.

Problem is it's an online store and I got the collectors edition. I don't think they will send me a new collectors edition =/ If I send it back and they send a new one the shipping gonna cost a lot too since it's heavy.

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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted October 12, 2011 02:35 PM

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Guys I got a problem =( My PC says the disc is empty and asks me to name it to later burn something in it... The backside of the disc seems to be of an unused kind too. Should I take a screenshot and email the store?

Yes. If you can go to the store with the cd or at least call to the store you should do it. Because they can ignore your email, but they can't do the same if you call them.

Problem is it's an online store and I got the collectors edition. I don't think they will send me a new collectors edition =/ If I send it back and they send a new one the shipping gonna cost a lot too since it's heavy.


Try the CD on different Computers just to mak sure, and if it is an big store whit a good name, they should pai the post expences

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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
Really, Ubisoft?
posted October 12, 2011 02:37 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 14:38, 12 Oct 2011.

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Guys I got a problem =( My PC says the disc is empty and asks me to name it to later burn something in it... The backside of the disc seems to be of an unused kind too. Should I take a screenshot and email the store?

Yes. If you can go to the store with the cd or at least call to the store you should do it. Because they can ignore your email, but they can't do the same if you call them.

Problem is it's an online store and I got the collectors edition. I don't think they will send me a new collectors edition =/ If I send it back and they send a new one the shipping gonna cost a lot too since it's heavy.
You can try to contact UbiSoft directly. A couple of years ago, I knew a lot of people who had a similar problem with a DVD Boxset that came out (that was music DVDs, but I don't really see that made any difference), and when the company became aware of the production fault, they asked people to sent in the faulty discs (it was only one disc out of a many-disc boxset) and they got a functional one in return. Of course, I can't guarantee how long that will take, or that UbiSoft will offer the same service.

PS: I would start by double-checking on another computer or disc drive to make sure it was not the drive that was faulty or couldn't read the disc.
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Kitten
Kitten


Known Hero
Roar
posted October 12, 2011 03:08 PM

Thanks for all of the suggestions ^^ I have sent a msg to the store and a msg to ubisoft customer support. I hope for the best and I will also try it on another PC. While I got the "game" early it seems I won't be able to play until later than other people

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted October 12, 2011 03:20 PM

Good luck with the game

http://www.gamestrust.de/uploads/inline/pic-7332-popup.jpg
This image is curious. Why is there a "blue" hero in the list of creatures who will play?
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Avirosb
Avirosb


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Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted October 12, 2011 03:39 PM

I'm guessing he's a neutral you can't control but will have to save.

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kodial79
kodial79


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Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
posted October 12, 2011 03:43 PM

The objective of the battle in that image says to keep someone called Jorgen alive. Perhaps it could be him. That's why he is in the initiative bar. For you to keep him alive, the enemies must be able to harm him and therefore he has to be in the fight.

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted October 12, 2011 03:49 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 15:50, 12 Oct 2011.

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Well yes, maybe, but frankly the skill system they mention from the early draft sounds to me much better than the current pick-whatever-you-like system which I think is downright lame and one of the major letdowns of the game for me.


I think you would be surprised. The previous drafts had something like a grand total of 15-25 possible skills per hero, with up to half of those shared between other classes - i.e. choicelessness incarnate. It was a no-brainer to lambaste it as unsatisfactory.

Not really satisfied with the current system either, where no class has a truly unique skill or ability, but it has the elements to become excellent. I am hoping we can still twist it around substantially. Ideally I'd like more schools to be restricted and for every single class to have at least a few unique skills.
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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted October 12, 2011 04:01 PM

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The objective of the battle in that image says to keep someone called Jorgen alive. Perhaps it could be him.

That's another strange thing because Jorgen is the name of the faceless, as revealed in one of the spanish videos.
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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted October 12, 2011 04:04 PM

So instead of unlocking at midnight tomorrow, the game unlocks at 1 pm on Steam.  Yeah, that makes sense.
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted October 12, 2011 04:24 PM
Edited by kodial79 at 16:26, 12 Oct 2011.

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The objective of the battle in that image says to keep someone called Jorgen alive. Perhaps it could be him.

That's another strange thing because Jorgen is the name of the faceless, as revealed in one of the spanish videos.


Maybe the Faceless are shapeshifters?

@Ceph: How would they twist it now? It's supposed to be finished, right? Would they make any changes in future patches or expansions? I doubt that...

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Cepheus
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Far-flung Keeper
posted October 12, 2011 04:37 PM

I guess you don't remember H5's skill wheel? That thing was tweaked and altered so much between patches that by TotE it was unrecognisable from vanilla. By no means at all would I rule out changes to the H6 skill system, if there's enough unanimity about its problems.
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted October 12, 2011 04:41 PM

Yeah, I remember that changes were made. From HoF to ToE at least, there have been a lot of changes to accomodate the Orcs. So perhaps, the new factions will require changes on the new skill system too. But that doesn't mean that they're gonna make different skill systems for different factions.
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Aosaw
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Author of Nonreal Fiction
posted October 12, 2011 04:50 PM

They're changing the town screen, aren't they?

Don't rule anything out.  Complain long and loud enough, and eventually they'll give us what we want.

Because that's a good way to run a business...

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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted October 12, 2011 04:54 PM

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They're changing the town screen, aren't they?

Don't rule anything out.  Complain long and loud enough, and eventually they'll give us what we want.

Because that's a good way to run a business...


Yeah, they're changing the town screens after a horde of angry fans threatened not to buy the game. I doubt we got the strength to go that far for a skill tree. I don't mind it myself. It's great that it's not random but it could be more unique.

My major grudge about it, is that you have to learn the spells there instead from a magic guild. But I'm not making a big fuss about that cause I always wanted a game where the magic heroes won't be overpowering the might heroes.


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