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posted November 03, 2010 07:41 PM |
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I didn't get to vote for a hopeless 3rd party candidate  ; I moved to Mass and then had to unexpectantly and frantically change addresses because my roommate forgot to mention that he was a bipolar LUNATIC and my voter registration ended up in limbo.
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posted November 03, 2010 07:56 PM |
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Ah, so this is a no one gives snow election then. Okay.
Then forget everything about the divided people thing.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:01 PM |
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Don't you think American politics are kinda boring since there are only two political powers? In Sweden, we have 8 parties in our parliment and I would say that each one has a "core question" that they focus on like.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:06 PM |
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Sorry, sin is sin because God says so regardles of what any anti-theist writings tell you.
*chomps* And the irrefutable proof that God really said that is in a book written by man! Yes, it was written down thousands of years ago and therefore it is sacred truth!
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Actually Palin is the personification of what the tea party stands for. And she is a vastly superior choice to anyone the demoncrat party could put forward as a candidate.
Oh my God.. So it IS you.. It's people like YOU who put monkeys into seats of power....
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Actually Palin is the personification of what the tea party stands for
Like hell she is. Sarah Palin is the personification of all the people with IQs below 50. My left toenail has more intelligence than her.
... Sooo doesn't that kind of make her the personification of what the tea part stands for?
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I only have time to address you "crown" reference at the moment. It was a loony liberal lie--a hoax, so be very careful when you listen to loony liberal liars lest someone append that title to yourself.
Lol, what filthy conspiracists... It's good we have people like you exposing these conspiracies for what they are!
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Ahhh hypocrism at its finest.
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Come on, people, focus on issues. Criticize Obama for his policies (and god knows he deserves it), but if there's one thing he isn't, it's a bad public speaker. Even Palin, whose voice makes my skin crawl every time I hear it, knows exactly the right way to speak to her audiences.
Considering the level of intelligence of her audiences I wouldn't go about calling that an achievement to praise her for.
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There aren't any that I'm aware of. However, we are so hard-wired to believe that only a Democrat or Republican really has a shot at winning, most people don't feel it's worth throwing a vote away on an Independent, Green Party member, Libertarian, etc, etc. It does happen but I don't seem them organizing to the point where they can become a lasting political party.
That's because politics are only accesable to the rich in America. Because that's democracy 
That, for the record, is a complaint aimed at the modern state of democracy rather than at America.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:12 PM |
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I wonder what is so radically left and Marxist in handing out a trillion dollars to indebted corporations...
I mean, shouldn't they have given the trillion to the people instead, maybe even spiced with a few lines or something for good measure?
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posted November 03, 2010 08:17 PM |
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I didn't vote. Fk all those people. I didn't vote, not because I didn't care, but because I didn't want ANY of those SOBs. I didn't vote because it's not going to do a damn thing. As far as I'm concerned the only real vote is a bullet. One bullet, one vote.
The only good thing that came out of this is that there will no longer be a one party government, which makes it a lot harder to do anything. If they can't do anything then that's good not as bad. The only thing the Republicans can do is slow the nonsense that the Dems have been doing. Over the next two years it's unlikely that much will change. So there's a good chance the pendulum will swing back the other way.
The idiot parties always want to claim "victory" whenever they win something. They want to claim it means that the people support their agenda. People just as often vote against something as they vote for it. They also vote out of frustration and being pissed off. That was very strong in this election as well as the last one. People voted for Republicans this time for the same reason they voted against them the last time, because they were pissed off.
The thing that really hurt the Dems was the health care BS. People were already really pissed before that. Passing a major piece of legislation when a large majority of the population was against it was NOT the thing to do if they wanted to retain office.
This left-right politics has to stop. The left is getting lefter, and the right is not getting righter, but they are getting nuttier. By definition the majority of people are in the middle. And they are getting real fking sick and tired of this left-right bullsnow.
One bullet, one vote. Fk all those people. Level Washington to the ground. Time to hit the reset button.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:31 PM |
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Well said. That's exactly how I feel about everything, Bin. That's why I also exercised my right not to vote.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:53 PM |
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I must say that from an outsider's point of view, I'm really amazed that so many Americans can think like that. I guess it just goes to show how fundamentally different the American mentality is from that of (Nothern) Europeans.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:54 PM |
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That's what happens when you realize all they give a damn about is self-preservation.
In the end, does it really matter if it's a Democrat or a Republican screwing you? You're still being screwed.
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posted November 03, 2010 09:03 PM |
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I didn't vote. Fk all those people. I didn't vote, not because I didn't care, but because I didn't want ANY of those SOBs. I didn't vote because it's not going to do a damn thing. As far as I'm concerned the only real vote is a bullet. One bullet, one vote.
I'd advocate revolution through voting rather than through bullets at this point.
I beg to differ that voting does not make a difference. I think the difference between what Congress would have passed if it had remained under Marxist control and what it will pass now will be profound. This was an important election indeed.
The nation can return to the founding principles through peaceful means as long as the voters keep the heat on the politicians.
Oh, it should be noted that the Republicans also made major gains in state legistatures and governmorships.
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Republicans matched their historic victories in Congress with a sweep of state legislative chambers across the country Tuesday, a feat which will have considerable bearing on the next election.
The GOP picked up at least 19 chambers and hundreds of seats, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures -- though the tally is not final and Republican recruitment arm GOPAC pegs the party's chamber pickups at about 23. In several states, Republicans took control of both chambers and the governor's seat.
Though the taking of the U.S. House of Representatives overshadowed the victories for the Republican Party on the state level, the state legislatures take on outsized importance ahead of the 2012 cycle. State governments are responsible for redrawing the congressional districts in accordance with the results of the 2010 Census, and the GOP now has a much stronger voice in that process.
"It is truly historic that we could flip that many legislative chambers in one off-year election," GOPAC Chairman Frank Donatelli told FoxNews.com. "It's broad, it's deep and it's across the entire country."
The party picked up 20 chambers in the 1994 election and with the balance of power still unclear in several states, the GOP could surpass that performance in 2010.
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posted November 03, 2010 10:00 PM |
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For those who don't understand US laws: the political makeup of state governments is important because state governments will determine redistricting following from the 2010 census. How districts are defined will play a large role in the next nationwide election 2012.
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posted November 03, 2010 10:37 PM |
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No, teenagers often do stupid stuff. She said she dabbled in witchcraft as a teen but has cast that aside and says she became a Christian. Of course you failed to mention that part. Not deliberate, I'm sure.
It doesn't matter that she now claims to be anti-masturbation die-hard Christian - doesn't it kinda bother you that your candidate admitted of being a witch, having fun on satanistic altars or something? Seeing how you bash Obama for taking drugs in the past. Can't he be forgiven the same way? I'd rather have ex-drug taker rather than "ex-witch" or something as politician.
You also ignored my question regarding her "condom is anti-human" statement... Since I recall you being not opposed to contraception - don't you think it's a tiny bit... you know, stupid to claim such things?
I don't understand why such freaks mean to represent a serious party. Can't they get more normal people? Not the not-very-bright Palin, that Nazi cos-player Rich and ex-witch O'Donnell who claims condoms an offense towards mankind?
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posted November 03, 2010 11:08 PM |
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BTW. It seems this whole tea-party opposes the average republican line pretty much all along the line. So wouldn't it be more reasonalbe if it really parted to it's own party? I get the whole losing votes and power but it would make sense from ideological standpoint, would it not?
What makes this a near impossible thing to change, is paradigms that are seriously entrenched, "dyed in the wool" thinking. My Dad would today, if he were yet breathing, be a perfect example. I told him one day "I could no longer vote for either of these two parties because clearly they are in bed together", or partying at taxpayer expense would be more accurate. He said this; "If you do not vote for one or the other, than you are a part of the problem" This is the way, far too many think. How will anything ever change with non-thinking like that? I gave the following example of what I am up against to him; "It would be like asking me to pick between Hitler and Stalin, and how could I feel good about casting my vote for either?. He did not talk to me for a long time.
Somewhere along the line, I think it fair to say, that I should be able to vote for "what I believe in" and not the "lesser of two evils" you-know-what.
But I'm a dreamer...somehow still
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posted November 03, 2010 11:13 PM |
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And that's the very reason I usually end up not voting or just voting blanck in all things.
What idea is there to vote when even the best choice would be someone with whom you disagree about 50% of the time? 
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posted November 03, 2010 11:24 PM |
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What idea is there to vote when even the best choice would be someone with whom you disagree about 50% of the time?
Exactly. If we think about it, our system has been hosed so long that every thing becomes 50/50 as you said. Well, with only half of the people voting these days that means 1 in 4 Americans decide things. Wow that doesn't float my boat and should reveal just how bad our politics have been hijacked by these two...greedy-self-centered....Partys.
I wonder how many folks know that the "founding fathers" did not get paid anything to serve?
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I beg to differ that voting does not make a difference.
you are right. for example, here, we are getting closer and closer from dictatorship. that's a nice change.
what I don't get, when more than 50% of people don't vote, why is the guy with the most votes elected anyway? I thought the majority was supposed to win?
and if no one votes, what are they going to do? randomly pick a candidate?
why do we even need some guys to control a country? how is that necessary to life?
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I wonder how many folks know that the "founding fathers" did not get paid anything to serve?
I don't know anything about them, but I think, people who really want to improve things, don't do it for money and power. they are just generous. if you aren't generous, you can't improve things, can you?
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posted November 04, 2010 02:48 AM |
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I don't know anything about them, but I think, people who really want to improve things, don't do it for money and power. they are just generous. if you aren't generous, you can't improve things, can you?
I agree with you, that's the way it should be, but what do we have? We have elected officals representing their "Party" over "the people" and that is exactly what no-paid George Washington warned future Americans about in his "Farewell address of 1796". He gave a half dozen other warnings and every one of them has been ignored. Shoot,not get paid?, they write books now while in office and campaign for their party, all the while collecting those nice little checks to do so. How many average Americans live any sort of life like that? I've read several books about what the founders of this country thought and fought to create and what we have is light years in the wrong direction from what they intended. Dont' take my word for it, read Washington's Farewell address of 1796. The man was asked to be President his second term because he was the only one that the two-headed-monster called the "two parties" would agree on. He did not want to serve again...he wanted to retire. Now that is SERVICE.
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posted November 04, 2010 03:10 AM |
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They also had either large or massive amounts of land, education, and wealth, courtesy of their aristocratic heritage from England.
I think the salary of the president and the legislatures is a pretty minor issue. It's not like they're rolling in cash by the millions every year. It's like making a fuss over the president flying around with so many escorts. It's the sort of thing people get riled up about, but in truth it's really inconsequential in the grand scheme. A lot of politicians are already wealthy before they run for office, so it's not as though the salary is a big incentive.
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posted November 04, 2010 03:22 AM |
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posted November 04, 2010 04:14 AM |
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I'm sure the founding fathers loved the power.
Hell, I know I would.
I don't think enjoying the power of leadership and being a sincere public servant have to be mutually exclusive. I think it is best if a person does get a thrill out of their position, because there is an extremely strong correlation between passion and your ability to perform well. It's only a grave danger when that passion becomes maniacal and you start indulging yourself at the expense of the people you're serving.
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