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SkeleTony
Hired Hero
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posted July 29, 2014 09:20 AM |
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@ Storm-Giant: I did not see that post. Thanks for the referral.
@ Everyone: To people on both sides of this little exchange I hope you can communicate your ideas in a way that is less...absurd and offensive.
Some of this is no doubt just understandably poor wording by people writing in English and that not being their primary language (so they are far more impressive than I will ever be in this regard.). But some of this stuff is just rude and poorly informed; smacking of arm-chair psychiatry.
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted July 30, 2014 02:42 PM |
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Btw. did you fix some of these issues?
http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Did_you_know
Badge of Courage, Towers vs Armorer etc.
Btw. nice effect for a new artifact, all creatures gain imunty to mind spells.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted July 30, 2014 03:55 PM |
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P4R4D0X0N said:
Btw. did you fix some of these issues?
I reccomend reading the extensive, full HotA changelog. With ctrl+f you can find some answers quickly 
P4R4D0X0N said:
Badge of Courage
"Badge of Courage no more gives mind spell immunity."
P4R4D0X0N said:
Towers vs Armorer
"Arrow Towers ignores the target’s defense completely."
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted July 30, 2014 06:57 PM |
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Ah thx for the log. Haven't read it yet...
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted July 30, 2014 08:16 PM |
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Btw. I think that conflux need a complete rework. Heros should be changed, for example Planeswalkers got 2xAir, 2xWater, 2xFire and 2xEath Elementals as specialty. Fairy/Pixie is missing also some other specialties for a better variety. Also the abilities of Conflux creatures are kinda boring imo. What do you think?
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malax83
Famous Hero
Game ranger, HotA Player
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posted July 30, 2014 09:36 PM |
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blueskirt said:
Quote:
Voting is not always an optimal way to choose better piece.
Damn right, which is why they shouldn't change it no matter how many complains about it. It's their baby, not a democracy.
I was reading others subjects in the forums and i noticed i wasn t alone. I feel as a random player, i m not mad and feel no shame to make votes. Forum is a place to democraty and i know is quite hard to keep calm while rude players are taunting.
I noticed lot of people complains about mass spell. I hope changements are comming, that s all.
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blueskirt
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 31, 2014 04:52 AM |
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Mind you, it was not my intention to insult anyone with my remark, I was only taking a tongue in cheek jab at macron, whose argument was also its counterpoint.
I've requested or suggested stuff to the team numerous times in the past and in the end I entirely trust their choices to disregard my ideas, even the ones I thought were pretty good, because the team has a vision of this expansion and where it is going and the last thing I want is for these guys to compromise their vision to please me, the same way the last thing we all want is for one or some fans to dictate what the team should do next or implement.
At the end of the day, Heroes of Might and Magic III is not perfect, there are things that bothers me in it, some of the choices its creators did still bothers me greatly even nowadays, but that never stopped me from clocking over several thousand hours on this great game and I'm fairly sure it will also be the case with Horn Of The Abyss.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 31, 2014 05:28 AM |
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blueskirt said:
I entirely trust their choices to disregard my ideas, even the ones I thought were pretty good, because the team has a vision of this expansion and where it is going and the last thing I want is for these guys to compromise their vision to please me, the same way the last thing we all want is for one or some fans to dictate what the team should do next or implement.
words well spoken. i can see if the team asks for feedback regarding things; but more suggestions out of the blue(unless they are spectacularly awesome, which is a true rarity; more often than not, they are merely just a personal choice, and meant to heave more work onto people more talented and hardworking than themselves, who already have their own work to do) border on being rude and needy. it is true, that there are modders that will take into account many ideas, and actually implement a good bit of them; but more often than not, it is only because they are catering to a paying consumer(like what happened with the original Forge), or they lack ideas themselves. neither of which, the HotA team has to deal with. they are quite talented, just like any other group of modders(VCMI, WoG, Era) who put their heads and talent together to create a great product. and for free, no less. 
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted July 31, 2014 10:41 AM |
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blueskirt said:
At the end of the day, Heroes of Might and Magic III is not perfect, there are things that bothers me in it, some of the choices its creators did still bothers me greatly even nowadays, but that never stopped me from clocking over several thousand hours on this great game and I'm fairly sure it will also be the case with Horn Of The Abyss.
Wise words
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted July 31, 2014 01:24 PM |
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The actual model of these "Nix" (Whatever a nix is? I know "Nixe" but thats already used as Level1 Monster for Cove) are the best animated ones so far, i got no problem with it. Kappas would be nice too, but its finished to build cove... so maybe as neutral creature in the future like Guild Wars Kappa style (Turtle) upgraded version like Super Mario "Spikey" ^^ as defensive creature maybe also possible for selective Creatures for Fortress.
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malax83
Famous Hero
Game ranger, HotA Player
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posted July 31, 2014 06:23 PM |
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Edited by malax83 at 18:47, 31 Jul 2014.
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blueskirt said:
At the end of the day, Heroes of Might and Magic III is not perfect, there are things that bothers me in it, some of the choices its creators did still bothers me greatly even nowadays, but that never stopped me from clocking over several thousand hours on this great game and I'm fairly sure it will also be the case with Horn Of The Abyss.
you like a mature player, even when i m young, my heroes games never ending, but as far as i remember , cause not enought time to end the map. So i couldn t spend more than 2 hours online on heroes, as a lot of fans here. Anyway, i hope medium map is always a challenge - so my question is now how could i play online ? without friends ? and without GameRanger ? room on hamachi (?)
Then if suggestions are possible, and most of players think as well, it s a bit frustating isn t it ? so i guess mass slow should only cancel mass haste, and reverse.
Regards,
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malax83
Famous Hero
Game ranger, HotA Player
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posted August 06, 2014 01:18 PM |
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Sal said:
malax83 said:
I think Tetris is more aritistic than chain in heroes 3...
Have to give you credit on that, as I dunno what aritistic means.
Finally, i think it doesn t look like to Tetris, but as a race game.
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cgerrr
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 09, 2014 05:24 PM |
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Edited by cgerrr at 18:48, 09 Aug 2014.
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Considering Magic Elementals got balanced by upped cost why Vampire Lords didn't get the same treatment, especially considering both units are banned in competitive play AFAIK?
And while we're talking about balance, the decision about changing Cyclops cave cost not having crystals in it and adding those crystals to its upgrade seems questionable: there is like no chance anyone will ever upgrade Cyclops cave considering Behemoths' crystal heavy requirements (building, upgrade and unit's cost itself). Additionally that is a hefty buff to the Fortress - already really strong faction.
As a suggestion: reducing crystal part of the cost to 4 for the cave (as for other similar buildings) would suffice.
Edit:
While we at it what about upgrade of Pixies as well (same deal as with Vampire Lords and Magic Elementals)?
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted August 09, 2014 10:22 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 22:35, 09 Aug 2014.
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Anybody else watched Nik play a test version of HotA today? It featured the rumoured, new creature banks that'll reward you with giants or cyclops. The graphics was just place-holders at this point. It's noteworthy that both of these creatures are shooters (giants when upgraded to titans, ofc). It's rare to see shooters having a great effect in the later parts of the game, but these banks could change this. Also, it makes Archery a much better skill to have, no?
Here are the vods, Strom-Giant
first part
second part
Note: due to automatic copyright censorship done by twitch.tv (it seems), huge portions of the audio has been muted. It sucks, but it's better than nothing, I suppose.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 09, 2014 10:23 PM |
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VoD please?
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nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 12:23 PM |
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Edited by nik312 at 20:12, 10 Aug 2014.
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cgerrr said:
Considering Magic Elementals got balanced by upped cost why Vampire Lords didn't get the same treatment, especially considering both units are banned in competitive play AFAIK?
And while we're talking about balance, the decision about changing Cyclops cave cost not having crystals in it and adding those crystals to its upgrade seems questionable: there is like no chance anyone will ever upgrade Cyclops cave considering Behemoths' crystal heavy requirements (building, upgrade and unit's cost itself). Additionally that is a hefty buff to the Fortress - already really strong faction.
As a suggestion: reducing crystal part of the cost to 4 for the cave (as for other similar buildings) would suffice.
Edit:
While we at it what about upgrade of Pixies as well (same deal as with Vampire Lords and Magic Elementals)?
Vampire lords have quite high cost and build-requirements already. The biggest problem with 'em were outer dwells, which increased the power of the stack in quite non-linear progression. These were fixed by tripling the value of the dwell in order for it not to generate in poor areas and when generated - taking away a high amount of zone value.
Cyclops are all-right now. With new conses already spotted it must be quite obvious that the importance of that unit has increased significantly. And what exactly is a buff to Fortress? I don't get it. Fortress was not changed IIRC at all.
As for pixies... There are different opinions on those. I don't want to repeat all the controversy here, the history of it is already about a half-year.
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cgerrr
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 05:17 PM |
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Edited by cgerrr at 17:32, 10 Aug 2014.
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nik312 said:
Vamrire lords...
Thanks for your reply, Nik - watched your test stream not so long ago.
And I meant Stronghold not Fortress (for some reason I always confuse the names of those 2 factions) and apparently Stronghold isn't that hot so I retract that statement. However even with new creature banks will you for example waste 25 crystals for questionable benefit of additional siege ability and somehow not so significant upgrade in power for cyclops?
As for pixies/sprites: so if there was HOTA tourney they would be allowed I presume?
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nik312
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 08:05 PM |
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cgerrr said:
nik312 said:
Vamrire lords...
Thanks for your reply, Nik - watched your test stream not so long ago.
And I meant Stronghold not Fortress (for some reason I always confuse the names of those 2 factions) and apparently Stronghold isn't that hot so I retract that statement. However even with new creature banks will you for example waste 25 crystals for questionable benefit of additional siege ability and somehow not so significant upgrade in power for cyclops?
As for pixies/sprites: so if there was HOTA tourney they would be allowed I presume?
In current in-team version upgrade costs 10 crystals. And yes, at some point I might waste those to get +2 speed at some +stats. Though, not necessarily as it provides some trouble with further collecting of those.
As for sprites - you better wait for first version, considered good enough for first tournaments. That's 1.3.4, which should come pretty soon
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malax83
Famous Hero
Game ranger, HotA Player
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posted August 11, 2014 08:52 PM |
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nik312 said:
Vampire lords have quite high cost and build-requirements already. The biggest problem with 'em were outer dwells, which increased the power of the stack in quite non-linear progression.
Vampires lords aren t the only creatures who have a non-linear progression.
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malax83
Famous Hero
Game ranger, HotA Player
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posted August 11, 2014 08:57 PM |
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sry i misunderstood a post.
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