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Oddball13579

 
    
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posted May 14, 2019 09:15 PM |
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I'm not really a big fan of the way the flamethrower girl is looking. She looks maybe a wee bit too modern? I don't really know. I do know that I'm not a big fan of the backpack style flamethrower she seems to have going on. I much preferred the gauntlet style flame thrower she had in the concept art.
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Opera

 
 
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posted May 15, 2019 01:28 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 15:14, 15 May 2019.
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Oddball13579 said: I'm not really a big fan of the way the flamethrower girl is looking. She looks maybe a wee bit too modern? I don't really know. I do know that I'm not a big fan of the backpack style flamethrower she seems to have going on. I much preferred the gauntlet style flame thrower she had in the concept art.
No she looks very good as a girl with flame thrower. One hand flamethrower its more moder than two handed. No reason to change her shes perfect. Perfect looking girl in "Victorian" era working in Factory
Mod edit: removed the image from the reply.
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CountBezuhoff

 
    
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posted May 15, 2019 01:52 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 15:14, 15 May 2019.
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Opera said:
Oddball13579 said: I'm not really a big fan of the way the flamethrower girl is looking. She looks maybe a wee bit too modern? I don't really know. I do know that I'm not a big fan of the backpack style flamethrower she seems to have going on. I much preferred the gauntlet style flame thrower she had in the concept art.
No she looks very good as a girl with flame thrower. One hand flamethrower its more moder than two handed. No reason to change her shes perfect. Perfect looking girl in "Victorian" era working in Factory
I find her a bit too cartoonish and, frankly, out of place.
The Count
Mod edit: removed the image from the reply.
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Maurice


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posted May 15, 2019 03:13 PM |
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Guys, can we stop quoting images all the time?
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Gandalf196

    
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posted May 15, 2019 03:32 PM |
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Maurice said: Guys, can we stop quoting images all the time?
That's a good idea. Maybe we could start referring to pictures as textbooks do, e.g.: "It is evident from Figure 5.14.3.2 that..." (what follows is seldomly evident , but you get the idea).
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posted May 15, 2019 04:06 PM |
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Gandalf196 said: That's a good idea. Maybe we could start referring to pictures as textbooks do, e.g.: "It is evident from Figure 5.14.3.2 that..." (what follows is seldomly evident , but you get the idea).
Lol, you can pull it into extremes, no? . You know what I mean, though; we had three directly subsequent posts here of which two quoted not just the text but also the image of the original. That's a bit over the top, if you ask me - and makes for long scrolling on the page, in the end.
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Gandalf196

    
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posted May 15, 2019 04:18 PM |
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Maurice said:
Gandalf196 said: That's a good idea. Maybe we could start referring to pictures as textbooks do, e.g.: "It is evident from Figure 5.14.3.2 that..." (what follows is seldomly evident , but you get the idea).
Lol, you can pull it into extremes, no? . You know what I mean, though; we had three directly subsequent posts here of which two quoted not just the text but also the image of the original. That's a bit over the top, if you ask me - and makes for long scrolling on the page, in the end.
I agree with you, especially concerning large pictures, the ones that force me to scroll sideways to see the whole comment. Although it may have sounded ironic, actually, I really meant it; we could do with some sort of reference method, maybe quoting the comments, but not the pictures themselves, or by hosting the image on imgur.com and referecing it thorugh a link.
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posted May 15, 2019 04:34 PM |
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I use snippets of screenshots to show a point of interest.
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Opera

 
 
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posted May 15, 2019 04:53 PM |
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Cartoon style ? what is wrong i dont understood coolor of hair ? We didnt see model just yet. But i dont want to see change like one hand flame thrower. She reminde me of Forge unit so i would like to dont change her. Flamethrower girl rules !
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CountBezuhoff

 
    
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posted May 15, 2019 05:04 PM |
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Opera said: Cartoon style ? what is wrong i dont understood coolor of hair ? We didnt see model just yet. But i dont want to see change like one hand flame thrower. She reminde me of Forge unit so i would like to dont change her. Flamethrower girl rules !
That's just my opinion, maybe I'll get used to her model once Factory is released, maybe they'll change it, but in my mind this fighting a black dragon would seem pretty weird.
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Oddball13579

 
    
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posted May 15, 2019 06:25 PM |
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CountBezuhoff said:
Opera said: Cartoon style ? what is wrong i dont understood coolor of hair ? We didnt see model just yet. But i dont want to see change like one hand flame thrower. She reminde me of Forge unit so i would like to dont change her. Flamethrower girl rules !
That's just my opinion, maybe I'll get used to her model once Factory is released, maybe they'll change it, but in my mind this fighting a black dragon would seem pretty weird.
Yeah I agree Count. She just doesn't quite right. Like trying to fit the wrong piece into a spot in the puzzle. She just doesn't quite fit the aesthetic of Factory. So I hope she gets a little tlc to make her fit into Factory.
That's why I said I liked the one handed concept art flamethrower. As it is right now, she looks more modern with the backpack fuel tank.
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Opera

 
 
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posted May 15, 2019 08:45 PM |
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There its nothing wrong in her style. She typical girl working in factory during "Victorian" era (1850-1900) and even WW I and WW 2
Also why its weird that she will fight against dragon ? In Factory technollogy can make flamethrowers so ther its nothing wrong there (They heave oil lakes in wastes so that why she heave her "bag" on back)
Be positive shes good looking in this faction And i dont want to change her model
I heave a few images of imagine the styl of her in Factory but i dont know how to put images on this site
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CountBezuhoff

 
    
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posted May 15, 2019 08:57 PM |
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Opera said:
I heave a few images of imagine the styl of her in Factory but i dont know how to put images on this site
This thread explains how to do it. I'd recommend uploading the image to Imgur instead of the suggested sites.
The Count
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Opera

 
 
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posted May 15, 2019 09:07 PM |
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Edited by Opera at 21:11, 15 May 2019.
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CountBezuhoff said:
Opera said:
I heave a few images of imagine the styl of her in Factory but i dont know how to put images on this site
This thread explains how to do it. I'd recommend uploading the image to Imgur instead of the suggested sites.
The Count
Thanks a lot and also few images to imagine her style in the game

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posted May 16, 2019 12:08 AM |
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Okay guys, time to speculate. As Docent said, this is pretty much the first sketch what have been done for the Factory, so some of the building placements might be outdated. However, I would like to see if we can guess the building places correctly and while doing that, maybe we could even squish a bit more information from the picture. NOTE THAT ALL THIS IS PURE SPECULATION!

A = Hall
B = Fort
C = Blacksmith
D = Marketplace
E = Resource Silo
These 5 are have been confirmed, so not that much to be speculated about them.
F = Mage guild
This one is pretty self-explonary to me, tall tower-like building shouldn't be anything else than a mage guild. I'm not sure if it's been confirmed somewhere, but I think lvl 5 MG will be out of Factory's reach - they have the technical stuff to back them up.
G = Grail
The most special looking building in my opinion, and that's usually the case with grails.
H = Tavern
This one's tough, but I think Tavern is here next to the Hall.
I = Special building 1
If Factory truly has some kind of Special secondary skill, I would say this building with the mining cart might be the best candinate to have something to do with it.
J = Special building 2
The oil pump. Might have something to do with resources?
K = Special building 3
Each town has at least one "horde building" for a creature type. I'm really surprised if this building doesn't add more weekly Halflings.
L = Special building 4
Is this a weather balloon? Not much more to say about this.
M = Special Building 5
Not sure how they will squeeze this building here as a rather big building is still missing from the right corner. Looks like saloon took much more space than they firstly thought. Maybe this building will not take place here in the final version?
N = Tier 1 Dwelling
In the demo, we can see these simple houses on the map as a flagable buildings. We also see Halfling been recruited in both cities where this building is completed. I'm rather surprised if we this is not a Halfling Dwelling.
O = Tier 2 Dwelling
Judging from the image, it seems that this building was maybe first thing to have some details in it. This one really bothers me, and this might be a special building as well, but I currently leaning towards a dwelling.
What if Factory has some kind of horse/cow/ox like creatures in their line up? Some really big animal skeletons can be seen both adventure map and the battlefield. Just a thought.
P = Tier 3 Dwelling
This one seems to most suitable house for the Mechanics (former Flamethrower fielders.)
Q = Tier 4 Dwelling
The Serpenterium we saw in the teaser. Likely to be home of some kind of Serpent creature.
R = Tier 5 Dwelling
Not much to say about this. It's placed in the very end of this cliff, so one could imagine creatures inhabiting here could fly.
S = Tier 6 Dwelling
We don't need to quess or speculate, it's been confirmed that the saloon is the dwelling for the Gunslingers.
R = Tier 7 Dwelling
Big building like this should be the tier 7 place. I'm still suspecting that the tier 7 will be some kind of mechanical dragon.
So, what do you think? Will these be the building placements? Can we learn anything else from this picture?
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Oddball13579

 
    
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posted May 16, 2019 01:10 AM |
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Opera said: There its nothing wrong in her style. She typical girl working in factory during "Victorian" era (1850-1900) and even WW I and WW 2
Also why its weird that she will fight against dragon ? In Factory technollogy can make flamethrowers so ther its nothing wrong there (They heave oil lakes in wastes so that why she heave her "bag" on back)
Be positive shes good looking in this faction And i dont want to change her model
I heave a few images of imagine the styl of her in Factory but i dont know how to put images on this site
For starters this game is not set in Victorian era or WWI or WWII, or even on the same planet. So she should not look like "the typical girl working in a factory".
The ability to make flame throwers is not the issue here, it is the style in which they have chosen. She looks exactly like a soldier using a flamethrower from WWI, which does not fit the overall design of HoMM3.
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gatecrasher

 
   
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posted May 16, 2019 02:41 AM |
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@Hourglass
As the preliminary townscreen shows, this sketch is outdated and as Docent said the townscreen might be subject to change anyway.
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Gandalf196

    
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posted May 16, 2019 03:04 AM |
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I believe @Oddball13579 has made a good point.
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Oddball13579

 
    
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posted May 16, 2019 06:14 AM |
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Thank you @Gandalf
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CountBezuhoff

 
    
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posted May 16, 2019 07:50 AM |
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Hourglass said: I= Special building 1
If Factory truly has some kind of Special secondary skill, I would say this building with the mining cart might be the best candinate to have something to do with it.
With all this emphasis on a "western" theme for Factory I don't believe it's a stretch to say that "I" is inhabited by gold prospectors.
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The ability to make flame throwers is not the issue here, it is the style in which they have chosen
I second that. Her design choice is too futuristic for HoMM (imagine if the HoTA team added a train...). Also, in my view she is too well-fed and doesn't look like she has experienced any of the "occupational hazards" present in factories those days. I'll be blunt, her appearance can be discribed thus: a generic fantasy female mechanic, but with a flamethrower.
The Count
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