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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Super Thread is 566 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 110 220 330 440 550 ... 562 563 564 565 566 · «PREV
Brevan
Brevan

Tavern Dweller
posted February 10, 2025 06:47 PM

Eamar said:
Just noticed that Elixir of Life and new First Aid are additive: So I have Angels with 284 HP and Gnoll Maraunders with 11.
True, they are separate effects, kinda like combining a Hero's Armorer skill, the Shield spell, and a Hero's really high defense (throw in Expert Curse and Armorer Specialty for lols).  The Elixer of Life's +25% doesn't affect non-living creatures, but the component's +4 HP effects do.  Your Gnolls aren't affected by Expert First Aid since they have fewer than 7HP (this just happens to be the minimum where +15% would be +1HP, same as how Elixer of Life won't give +25% to units with less than 4HP).  If you use a hero with First Aide specialty, then eventually they can give +HP to nearly everything.

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KungFury
KungFury

Tavern Dweller
posted February 11, 2025 11:04 AM

Hello everyone,

Long time HOTA fan, new to the forum.

Looking forward to the new town, always had a tendency towards tank units, Stronghold is currently my favorite town, but Bulwark might become the new favorite.

Also been hoping for a Tier 7 spell caster for some time, so big thumbs up there from me.

Would like to put in a small request for a future mod, I have been trying to design a labyrinth as an integral part of my new map, but the new walls, which are great for building a pyramid, don't have the corner pieces available to create a labyrinth.

I wish I could post a picture to better illustrate what I mean.

Thanks.

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KungFury
KungFury

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posted February 11, 2025 11:06 AM

Hello everyone,

Long time HOTA fan, new to the forum.

Looking forward to the new town, always had a tendency towards tank units, Stronghold is currently my favorite town, but Bulwark might become the new favorite.

Also been hoping for a Tier 7 spell caster for some time, so big thumbs up there from me.

Would like to put in a small request for a future mod, I have been trying to design a labyrinth as an integral part of my new map, but the new walls, which are great for building a pyramid, don't have the corner pieces available to create a labyrinth.

I wish I could post a picture to better illustrate what I mean.

Thanks.

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KungFury
KungFury

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posted February 11, 2025 11:08 AM

Hello everyone,

Long time HOTA fan, new to the forum.

Looking forward to the new town, always had a tendency towards tank units, Stronghold is currently my favorite town, but Bulwark might become the new favorite.

Also been hoping for a Tier 7 spell caster for some time, so big thumbs up there from me.

Would like to put in a small request for a future mod, I have been trying to design a labyrinth as an integral part of my new map, but the new walls, which are great for building a pyramid, don't have the corner pieces available to create a labyrinth.

I wish I could post a picture to better illustrate what I mean.

Thanks.

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mitsche91
mitsche91


Adventuring Hero
posted February 12, 2025 02:30 PM

Is there actually any reason, why Ajit appears in every town-announcement-trailer (as far as I know)?

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Supreme Hero
posted February 13, 2025 09:49 AM
Edited by Hourglass at 09:54, 13 Feb 2025.

mitsche91 said:
Is there actually any reason, why Ajit appears in every town-announcement-trailer (as far as I know)?

IIFK, I remember the devs saying in some interview that it's a nod towards the original NWC Forge project. If you go throught the ancient screenshots, you can find a picture of Ajit in Forge town of Dolere. Fittingly, in the very first Factory teaser, the Factory town in named "New Dolere." I guess they just wanted to make a
continuation to the first trailer, so Ajit ends up in the Bulwark town trailer as well. I would assume if we ever see a 4th town from Hota, Ajit will once again be shown in the trailer.

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mitsche91
mitsche91


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posted February 13, 2025 11:54 PM

Hourglass said:
mitsche91 said:
Is there actually any reason, why Ajit appears in every town-announcement-trailer (as far as I know)?

IIFK, I remember the devs saying in some interview that it's a nod towards the original NWC Forge project. If you go throught the ancient screenshots, you can find a picture of Ajit in Forge town of Dolere. Fittingly, in the very first Factory teaser, the Factory town in named "New Dolere." I guess they just wanted to make a
continuation to the first trailer, so Ajit ends up in the Bulwark town trailer as well. I would assume if we ever see a 4th town from Hota, Ajit will once again be shown in the trailer.


Thanks for answering. I have seen this picture of NWC Forge a hundred times but I didn't get the link.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted February 14, 2025 06:19 AM

Urgh, Conflux might not be the best put-together town in the lineup, but Forge was a mess. Factory is light-years ahead by comparison.

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Floribert
Floribert

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posted February 14, 2025 09:33 AM

Ah, so that explains Ajits "Mechanic"-style. Interesting.

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Hausi
Hausi

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posted February 14, 2025 12:45 PM

mitsche91 said:
Is there actually any reason, why Ajit appears in every town-announcement-trailer (as far as I know)?


If you first watch the Factory trailer on Docent Picolan's channel and then the new Bulwark trailer, you will realize that they they are right after one another in the same match. Ajit discovers Factory in the first trailer and then in the Bulwark trailer gets defeated right away - I don't think he will appear in another trailer if there will be one, his reference for Factory (which is of course tied to the Heavenly Forge, like in the old NWC screenshot) served its purpose.

Then after Todd defeats Ajit, he discovers Bulwark and starts a battle with Eikthurn - which from the looks of it will definitely lose. My guess is that in a possible future trailer Eikthurn will go ahead and defeat Todd and then attack that very mysterious purple hero in the bottom right corner of the screen (if you go to the Bulwark trailer at 0:44), which could be a hero from yet another Faction other than Bulwark.
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Xandro
Xandro

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posted February 14, 2025 04:47 PM
Edited by Xandro at 16:48, 14 Feb 2025.

I find it unfair that there is a skill that reduces spell power, making magic even weaker, but there is no skill that reduces attack or defense.
There is even whole set of artifacts to make mages even weaker.







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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted February 14, 2025 06:01 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 18:07, 14 Feb 2025.

That's because HotA is afraid of Resistance, they wanted something predictable instead.
They even managed to mess up classes skill probabilities.

It's a wonder they have'nt removed morale and luck yet...

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Alyx182008
Alyx182008


Adventuring Hero
posted February 14, 2025 06:16 PM

@xandro

Well, there is Armorer, a skill that reduces attack. Though I suspect you meant skills that would be in a mage's repertoire, as Armorer is a might skill.

I guess the argument would be though that mages have spells to produce the effects you're asking for. Namely Shield and Stone Skin to reduce attack, and Disrupting Ray to reduce Defense.

I think what the mod needs is some attention in the spell department. I don't exactly see players praising magic heroes on here, and since spells are supposed to be their domain, addressing that has the best chance at making magic heroes relevant.

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mitsche91
mitsche91


Adventuring Hero
posted February 15, 2025 08:13 PM

Hausi said:
mitsche91 said:
Is there actually any reason, why Ajit appears in every town-announcement-trailer (as far as I know)?


If you first watch the Factory trailer on Docent Picolan's channel and then the new Bulwark trailer, you will realize that they they are right after one another in the same match. Ajit discovers Factory in the first trailer and then in the Bulwark trailer gets defeated right away - I don't think he will appear in another trailer if there will be one, his reference for Factory (which is of course tied to the Heavenly Forge, like in the old NWC screenshot) served its purpose.

Then after Todd defeats Ajit, he discovers Bulwark and starts a battle with Eikthurn - which from the looks of it will definitely lose. My guess is that in a possible future trailer Eikthurn will go ahead and defeat Todd and then attack that very mysterious purple hero in the bottom right corner of the screen (if you go to the Bulwark trailer at 0:44), which could be a hero from yet another Faction other than Bulwark.


Oh...well I didn't realize that there was a hero of another faction probably. The color scheme of hero and horse doesn't fit to Bulwark for sure. Because of the purple it could be some kind of dark elf. Would it make any sense with reference to the lore? My knowlege of Might and Magic lore is limited, but wouldn't it make more sense for them to appear in Jadame than in Vori?
Of course these are just speculations and the focus should be on the announced town, I know. But I am curious

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LordInsane
LordInsane


Known Hero
posted February 15, 2025 10:12 PM
Edited by LordInsane at 09:11, 20 Feb 2025.

mitsche91 said:
Oh...well I didn't realize that there was a hero of another faction probably. The color scheme of hero and horse doesn't fit to Bulwark for sure. Because of the purple it could be some kind of dark elf. Would it make any sense with reference to the lore? My knowlege of Might and Magic lore is limited, but wouldn't it make more sense for them to appear in Jadame than in Vori?
Of course these are just speculations and the focus should be on the announced town, I know. But I am curious

Well, dark elves going to Vori wouldn't be any more of a stretch than Nova Terra going there, yet the map in the trailers has both Factory and Bulwark, so the trailers should probably not be taken as lore-compliant in the way the campaigns are (and even if one does, it could be Bulwark appearing in Jadame).
I'm not convinced the purple is enough to suggest Alvarian, but whatever that hero is, it doesn't seem to be associated with a known faction (the January 6th update showed screenshots with what seems very likely to be Elders, the Bulwark hero class not shown in the trailer), and an Alvarian-themed town would make sense insofar as connecting to Cove and Factory goes.
EDIT: It comes to mind that a semi-plausible guess, that fits with precedent and what can be seen of the hero's look, is some form of Cathedral/Cathedral-successor. Factory is, in part, reworked Forge, and Bulwark originated as Kronverk. That'd leave Cathedral as the last of the old-plan HOTA towns with some degree of solid planning to not have a version present.

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LJP14
LJP14

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Will be 57 years of age soon.
posted February 18, 2025 05:07 PM

Any links to an installer of version 1.7.2

Anyone knows how to get that installer file without being considered a very dangerous malware type of file download?

Browsers: Edge, Norton Browser, Google Chrome at 2025 versions.

O.S. Windows 11 Pro updated to February 2025.

I do not know how to use the Torrent type of an installer.

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