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posted March 05, 2014 07:20 AM |
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If a dippy eurovision song was all it took to justify an invasion we'd be on WW30 by now 
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posted March 05, 2014 07:54 AM |
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mvassilev said:
kipshasz said:
I've never said they were the leaders.
Then who cares what some idiots say? There are stupid people in every group.
Not sure if you are reading any news that don't sound convenient to you but the idiots suggested the language law to be revoked and in fact this was accepted by the national assembly (but not signed by the president). Apparently there are enough people who listen to what the idiots say.
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posted March 05, 2014 10:53 AM |
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there is only one thing to lay blame on, EVER. human beings in general.
If I told you it was exceptionally hot today, would you answer me that's because of the sun? Of course human actions are caused by human nature, that's a no-brainer. But it's about comparing some actions to other ones and finding them less acceptable to the alternatives.
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posted March 05, 2014 11:21 AM |
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@ artu:
if it's such a no-brainer, then why is everyone trying to point fingers in this thread at a country or a group, instead of what the actual problem is? what i'm trying to say is, it's human nature to do these things. they'll always happen.
maybe it's just me, that i don't see the point in speculating or arguing about who's at fault and why. at the same time, i don't know why i'm continuing this, or attempting to display the psychology behind what makes people tick. i don't think anyone is really hearing me. it's like shouting in a thunderstorm.
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posted March 05, 2014 11:56 AM |
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if it's such a no-brainer, then why is everyone trying to point fingers in this thread at a country or a group, instead of what the actual problem is?
I already told you, because we evaluate human action in comparison to what else is possible, not a perfect humanity. For example, if we were in 1937, we might have been talking about Hitler Germany and the problems that it was about to bring on, saying that's just human nature wouldn't mean much, it's true but an overgeneralization.
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posted March 05, 2014 01:11 PM |
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it's NOT an overgeneralization, artu. it is exact, acute, and an identifiable issue, because you are viewing the problem's core. it's like taking an engine apart, and finding exactly the part that is wrong with it. so WHAT you've got spilled oil on all the other parts, that is IMMATERIAL. the issue is the broken part. that is what i am pinpointing, ffs. how in the goddamn hell can you see what i'm saying as an overgeneralization? are you not medicating, or something?
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posted March 05, 2014 01:14 PM |
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Because it is an over generalization. Your niece probably isn't out to riot in ukraine.
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posted March 05, 2014 01:35 PM |
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Because it is an over generalization. Your niece probably isn't out to riot in ukraine.
of course not, but like i've said before, the issue lies with human beings, i'm not focusing on JUST the ukranian situation. my niece told me yesterday that she didn't see rodeos as animal abuse. when i asked her if she thought hitting an animal to get it mad was animal abuse, she said no. i've seen her hit the dog on many occasions. as sweet as she can be to animals, she has the same core as everyone else. if something gets in her way, she abuses it. i've seen the same behavior with all children. i see the same behavior in all adults. it's all just a matter of degree, and preference. deep down, people are all the same. that's what i'm getting at, and why i cannot understand people pointing fingers at a country, or a group. the same bull**** happens wherever humans are. it's with people's core, that the actual problem lies.
but i'm pointing out the obvious again, and still not getting anywhere with anyone. i can hear you saying "so?". well, that's what i've been saying to all this discussion over the ukraine. screaming it in the wind. i'm done. my energy for this is spent.
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posted March 05, 2014 01:45 PM |
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But this thread is about the UKRAINIAN situation, that makes you a completely lost soul in the wrong thread.
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posted March 05, 2014 01:45 PM |
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I agree with fred that the core of the problem is human nature. I've said it myself many times in regards to the problem of political systems. There are a lot of people who destroy and kill so that they'd live happy and well. There are such few people who'd sacrifice their happiness and even their lives for others - if everyone of us would start thinking like this, there'd be no war, no pain, no nothing. I want a world like that, and I'm going there...
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posted March 05, 2014 01:47 PM |
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Move the snow out of snow zone then. It's funny how most of this crap has to do with certain countries, over and over again.
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posted March 05, 2014 02:17 PM |
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@fred
If the discussion was about global warming "the core of the problem" wouldn't be the sun, although all the warming comes from it. The sun will be there, no matter what. Unless, you have a way of replacing this humanity with another one, stating the obvious and very unspecific flaws humans have is not the core of the problem, because THIS humanity can exist WITHOUT this specific problem.
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posted March 05, 2014 03:15 PM |
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I heard about that theory of the selfish gene or whatever. humans are fundamentally egoist and ready to do anything to get what they want, and I suppose we should accept that we are actually all psychopaths, because obviously, a lot of people destroy and kill.
weirdly, a large majority of the people I meet don't do that and I have the impression, that except for a few individuals, the whole humanity is rather good, or at least trying to be.
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posted March 05, 2014 03:22 PM |
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Actually, the famous quote from that book (The Selfish Gene) is something similar to we can not change our genes but we can sabotage their plans. Paraphrasing, I've read it in Turkish.
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posted March 05, 2014 04:37 PM |
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And while muppets all around the globe are arguing against each other over what info they've been fed, the truth can be found only in limited independent sources, such as this Serbian tabloid, which states:
SENSATIONAL DISCOVERY:
Russia and Ukraine went to war over ancient pyramid in Crimea?
"It is claimed that it dates back to the Jurassic period. It is 45 meters tall and 72 meters wide. Ukrainian scientist Vitaliy Gokh claims it has been built in the age of the dinosaurs.
According to his words, the Crimean pyramid has a flat top like the Mayan ones, but reminds more of the Egyptian ones in appearance.
Whether we want to admit it or not, the New world order has taken away territories before we'd manage to understand that they grant them access to advanced technologies of ancient peoples.
Take a look at Alaska, for instance. If you look at the map, geographically speaking, it rather makes sense that it'd be Canadian territory. Yet, it's the property of America, and certain explorers claim that beneath the so-called dark pyramid there lies powerful technology that the USA protects like Area 51.
The discovery of the pyramids isn't a well covered topic today because official media choose to not speak of it. This, it's claimed, is because the Illuminati do not allow us to know more about our past and the truth of our existence."
"Let us remind that we also have the pyramids in the Caribbean in the Bermuda triangle, whose energy is so powerful that it interferes with navigation and allows airplanes and ships to disappear... Of course, there are as well the pyramids on the coast of India, in Siberia near Lake Baikal. Then there is the pyramid of Antarctica where the Nazis built their base during World War 2. Historians and official history are silent over many pyramids."
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posted March 05, 2014 04:43 PM |
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But some would not have it so.
Apparently, five courageous sons of mother Serbia just went off to volunteer in Crimea - presumably to stop the Illuminati from drawing energy from the Jurassic pyramids as well as Western kebab implementation.
I bet the Illuminati thought it's gonna be easy.
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posted March 05, 2014 05:13 PM |
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posted March 05, 2014 05:27 PM |
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