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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted April 21, 2016 10:02 PM |
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They are all environmentally friendly. They recycle.
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"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:03 PM |
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Just launched the game. It's the Ubisoft game actually.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted April 21, 2016 10:04 PM |
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:07 PM |
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Ubisoft had some amazing titles published. Like Assassin's Creed, for example. Which they milk since then.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted April 21, 2016 10:08 PM |
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vitirr
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:08 PM |
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I met Oak long ago when we were both VIPs and met him again in Paris last year. We talked a lot (together with Stevie as well) and I consider him to be a very nice and talented guy (it doesn't mean necessarily talented enough to hold his position though, at least not at this point in his early professional career).
So it is quite sad for me to read these comments from him (as well as other similar in the last weeks / months). I understand that he tries to keep a cold and neutral tone but you can't just answer nonesense to an already infuriated public. Things doesn't work because there are bugs uh? Ok, thanks for the information.
If you as a dev want to make a honest reply give some honest information, don't say just stupidities or avoid the real questions just to make you look like you're actually replying. Otherwise better just refrain from entering the debate.
Dies_Irae said:
The questions are posted above Oak's reply, and the person who wrote them, arain, is from Spain according to his/her profile  .
Yes he is spanish, and belonged to our community for some time. I'd say he is quite a hater yes (some of you would love him), and hated Heroes 7 quite long before it did even came out. The things about haters though is that sometimes they're right, and if we talk about Ubi it seems to be more than just sometimes. So even though there was a hate argumentation (entitled hate one could argue) in the end a lot of the criticism was right.
AlexSpl said:
Heroes V had beautiful 3D town screens, overall atmosphere and decent AI, worth to be played against. Though, there were many AI's flaws, which were heavily exploited in tourmanents, I must admit.
I hope you mean with Quantomas AI and all addons and patches because H5 on release... o man that was certainly one of the worst Heroes I ever played. A lot of people here are very fond of H5 in its final state. Personally I could never get past the fiasco of the release and terrible AI, so didn't get that pleasure. Perhaps that's why I remember the failures of H5 most than the majority.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted April 21, 2016 10:10 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
Ubisoft had some amazing titles published. Like Assassin's Creed, for example. Which they milk since then.
Heroes is an amazing Title too.
But who wants to buy games for aaa prize developed with extremely low Budget and released in alfa state (now finally reached beta, hooray!)?
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Important H7 tips & tricks
H7 Community Patch (UCP)
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted April 21, 2016 10:14 PM |
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Avonu said:
Stevie said:
Heroes 5 was worth it.
...at the end. Before it, it was as bugged as Heroes 7, with 20-minutes-AI turns and Nival was also very stubborn. "It's not a bug, it's a feature!" was once of thier answers.
Who knows if H7 will not follow the way of H5? (it is my wish)
And the nonsenses like "H5 had much better mechanics it was built on" do not have much sense as a lot can change.
But I am aware of H6 scenario ofc.
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Important H7 tips & tricks
H7 Community Patch (UCP)
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted April 21, 2016 10:16 PM |
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vitirr said:
The things about haters though is that sometimes they're right, and if we talk about Ubi it seems to be more than just sometimes. So even though there was a hate argumentation (entitled hate one could argue) in the end a lot of the criticism was right.
To say one is a "hater" would imply that whatever the circumstances or whatever it is being done, the person would hate everything associated to it.
One could say we are haters towards Ubisoft (and even to Limbic), but not to Heroes VII. It can be said people bear grudge to it, for there were talkings how it could be improved and how some things are even nice. Hence there is a positive thread about it.
But this all falls in the darkness, when certain things make people mad, like reusing from Heroes VI (and, as we learned today, from even other Ubi games), features that were added, yet there was no thinking about how the feature would work, the non-functional multiplay, and, most notably, bugs.
So yeah, hate should go to Ubisoft, milking franchise like that and giving it a bad name.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 21, 2016 10:20 PM |
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Antalyan said:
Maybe it is a common Ubi politics? Maybe they copy objects among their other games much more often than we thought?
It makes sense on one hand. They save money thanks to it, nearly nobody will notice it and even less people will have decreased game experience thanks to it.
I don't know if you Guys are aware of this little affair. It made quite an upproar some time ago. It didn't bother me personally cause I didn't play FC 4 and REALLY enjoyed Far Cry Primal (even though I hate Ubi as a company), but this makes you wonder, no?
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agneslynd
Hired Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:26 PM |
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"Why doesn't this work?"
"It has bugs."
ORLY
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 21, 2016 10:37 PM |
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Edited by Articun at 22:49, 21 Apr 2016.
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I am sure that most of you saw this Heroes VII Global Modding but allow me to post this here as well for anyone that can help with modding to get involved. The idea is, for a start, to allow for neutral units to be recruitable from the current factions. AcidDragon is even trying to give some of the units upgrades and in the future to import units from Heroes VI. If you know anyone that might know how to help, or create textures or import units from heroes VI or abilities or script abilities, please contact him.
Heroes VII might not be the game we expected but this is a step on the right direction. So, together, let's make this game a step closer to what it was supposed to be, as much as we can. We may not be able to change the skill system or the AI for now, but we can create a finer replayability value for casual gaming. The rest, i hope will come, when more people might get involved.
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:37 PM |
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Quote:
Personally I could never get past the fiasco of the release and terrible AI, so didn't get that pleasure. Perhaps that's why I remember the failures of H5 most than the majority.
Again, it's not a Nival's fault, but Ubi's only. Due to their constant greedy pressure. So you can't blame Nival really. Black Hole is also a victim.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:47 PM |
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Articun said:
I am sure that most of you saw this Heroes VII Global Modding but allow me to post this here as well for anyone that can help with modding to get involved. The idea is for a start to allow for neutrals units to be recruitable from the current factions. AcidDragon is even trying to give some of the upgrades and in the future to import units from Heroes VI. If you know anyone that might know how to help, or create textures or import units from heroes VI or abilities or script abilities, please contact him.
Heroes VII might not be the game we expected but this is a step on the right direction. So, together, let's make this game a step closer to what it was supposed to be, as much as we can. We may not be able to change the skill system or the AI for now, but we can create a finer replayability value for casual gaming. The rest, i hope will come, when more people might get involved.
i second that, with alternate line ups it will be way more fun. even abilities will get more interesting. and in the meantime maybe limbic will fix a bug or two
the hopes for a true ashan dungeon or a full enroth *shivers* dungeon are finally closer and every one of us can enjoy this problematic faction
joking aside i wish this would get more publicity so the guys behind this could get some donating going. this is big stuff
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:55 PM |
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I don't think H7 will ever be fixed. It has a weak brick in its core. Ignoramus is the name.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 10:58 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
I don't think H7 will ever be fixed. It has a weak brick in its core. Ignoramus is the name.
yeah yeah we heard that, bye now.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted April 21, 2016 11:02 PM |
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airodinamic said:
LOL i just realize that the half of the assets that are not recycled from Heroes 6 are recycled from the Anno 1404. Man i was so disappointed by cheap development but this is even more sad to know...
http://www.mediafire.com/view/eckzxms9iksujme/heroesVIIscreen.jpg#
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Historic_warehouses_foundation
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Mosque
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Tournament_arena
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Keep
This is actually funny xD
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 21, 2016 11:04 PM |
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The game is not so appalling as to not be able to play it. For casual games it is fine. For a challenge not so much. So it is not really so much about "fixing" it, but more about making it more tolerable and more to our liking.
As i said, it is more about replayability right now and content/variety. If someone works on the AI, then challenge will come. Dunno if we can tamper with the skill system, but maybe that one will come as well. So, at the very least, what i ask, is be supportive to those guys that put effort and time into this. If you don't like the game, or think of it as broken beyond repair, that's fine, and you may be right. But it is not fair to the guys trying to make mods to hear all these negative comments.
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 21, 2016 11:12 PM |
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Personally I'm not that negative to the developers. They are just men. But what I can't really understand is why they stubbornly continue to defend their subjective point of view and lie to us.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted April 21, 2016 11:14 PM |
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airodinamic said:
LOL i just realize that the half of the assets that are not recycled from Heroes 6 are recycled from the Anno 1404. Man i was so disappointed by cheap development but this is even more sad to know...
http://www.mediafire.com/view/eckzxms9iksujme/heroesVIIscreen.jpg#
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Historic_warehouses_foundation
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Mosque
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Tournament_arena
http://anno1404.wikia.com/wiki/Keep
I don't really mind this. If the assets look good and are up-to-date quality wise and fit the art-style of the game, what would be the point in using resources on making new assets? Those resources could be spent better elsewhere, we all know there are many places that could use some more love as it is even with the re-used assets.
I actually think the re-used models from H6 is more of a problem. When going to a new chapter of the game, one would expect an upgrade on technical level. Of course we may have reached the age where graphic update is actually not that significant between game releases, meaning that re-using models is from same game is actually possible (unlike previously, where graphics would change radically in just a few years) - and if that is the case, that's something we'll have to adjust to as customers also.
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