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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted April 30, 2016 03:42 PM |
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Antalyan said:
I think the second expansion will certainly be the Inferno (if I look at the SC votes), if it comes at all.
Then the 3rd expansion would most probably be our favourite sanctuary but I doubt Ubi will want to support this game so long.
However the potential of this game is great after the upcoming changes 
About the racial, I cannot get rid of the thought that sylvan racial would much better fit to sanctuary.
Well I suppose all we can do is to wait and hope... And perhaps drink a little tea meanwhile. Maybe the gods (or however decides what factions comes in the exspansions) smiles upon us and grants us the Sanctuary faction first...
Though I have to disagree, Sylvans current recial doesn't really fit with sanctuary.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted April 30, 2016 04:54 PM |
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Sanctuary is just not gonna happen in this game. Inferno or a second xpack probably wont either unless this TbF makes it revive hardcore.
Arent fire giants = thanes now anyway?
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted April 30, 2016 05:03 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Sanctuary is just not gonna happen in this game. Inferno or a second xpack probably wont either unless this TbF makes it revive hardcore.
Arent fire giants = thanes now anyway?
As much as you could call it unlikely, there are no reason to rule it out. If TbF can manage to overall fix the worst gameplay issues (skillwheel and specialzations), chances are it revives interests in the game. But neither side of that argument can get anywhere at this point.
And yes, the fire giants is basicly thanes on fire.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted April 30, 2016 05:32 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Arent fire giants = thanes now anyway?
Not really. Thanes are overgrown Dwarves while Fire Giants are this.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 30, 2016 05:39 PM |
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Thing is, the developers have been negative on sanctuary from the beginning. There is a reason it was not in any of the votes and each time that the fanbase asked about sanctuary we only got half answers as to why it was not even considered. The more used answer being "sanctuary does not meddle with the outside world and is not taking any part to the story" which in my books is bullsnow.
Heroes VII should start with the missing races and not the too used ones, meaning Sylvan, Academy, Fortress, Sanctuary and Stronghold/Haven/Necropolis. There should be at least a heroes game without humans. I am bored and tires of seeing stories revolving around them again and again and again. And having even Jorgen telling us a Sanctuary story about a Daimiyo opposing the eternal empress would have been much more in line with the main story than say the Knives of Erebos.
Aside that though ,as far as i know, the studio only had a deal for one expansion so, Trial by Fire might be the only expansion we get with support for about another 8 months i guess. After that, it is prossibly bye bye for Heroes VII. A possible DLC offering a campaign and Inferno as playable faction could happen but i don't see them willing enough or capable enough to make it happen. Ultimately i don;t thing they care about the game.
If they did care about the game, they would have researched the older games, the ones that really stand out and made history and work on that formula. But this has been said and talked over and over to exhaustion.
Anws, just, don;t keep your hopes up. If Sanctuary and Inferno is to even come in the game it will be because we as a community made it happen and not because the developers wanted it to happen. Developers do not care about heroes and i think that right now the game itself is more like an annoyance than a project they like...
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted April 30, 2016 06:02 PM |
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A rather pessimisstic standpoint, but I can't blame you. It is not like the future looks too bright, now is it?
Yet for now we have to wait and see. Trial by Fire have a potentail to be a turning point, but if not we should take matters in our own hands. We'll take that at that point I suppose...
In the other end of the deal, I agree that it is about time we have a game without the knight faction. Because honestly, it's boring like hell with nothing but lots of human troops and doesn't really have the biggest potential for interesting storytelling other than being the corrupt good guy.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 30, 2016 06:11 PM |
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Medic, believe me, i want to be optimistic, but so far, the facts talk for themselves... Inferno is almost in the game and honestly, i think they will reuse most stuff from heroes VI if they put it in. Think about it:
Elite tier: Succubus, Juggernaut, Efreet
Core tier: Cerberus, Maniac, New
Champion: Pit Lord, new
Warfare: Breeder as Offensive, Same Siege weapon, maybe new for support
And still, they might offer it as a piad DLC. I would have made more sense to offer it now with Fortress and it wouldn't have been so badly accepted because well, the expansion at least would have had content.
Also we kept asking for alternatives to strong and elite units in each faction. The developers were not only negative on that but unwiulling to make it happen. AcidDragon did it though and showed that it was possible and more than than, quite doable by someone that doesn't know the Unreal editor all that much. Still, the developers that is their job to work on that are unwilling to even consider it like it is some kind of a hussle...
Do i need to keep going?
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted April 30, 2016 06:19 PM |
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I know, you have all the rights to be pessimisstic and I wont judge you for it. I suppose it that if we want something good now we migth have to do it usselves.
Regardless though, I will wait and see what happens.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted April 30, 2016 06:31 PM |
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Speaking about being pesimistic, there is one strange thing.
Among my friends, I am known for being very pesimistic generally.
But when it comes to H7, I found out I am usually quite optimistic.
Maybe because most of the other reactions are pesimistic?
Who knows ... 
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted April 30, 2016 06:35 PM |
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Antalyan said:
Speaking about being pesimistic, there is one strange thing.
Among my friends, I am known for being very pesimistic generally.
But when it comes to H7, I found out I am usually quite optimistic.
Maybe because most of the other reactions are pesimistic?
Who knows ...
Well that's peculiar...
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 30, 2016 07:02 PM |
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It is because of that. I am the same way. I usually take the opposite role of the pack.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted April 30, 2016 07:21 PM |
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Antalyan said:
But when it comes to H7, I found out I am usually quite optimistic.
Maybe because most of the other reactions are pesimistic?
Who knows ...
Articun said:
It is because of that. I am the same way. I usually take the opposite role of the pack.
you are contrarians lol
it's a great way to be for diversity of opinion, albeit not always so good to maintain an opposite position if there is no logic going on beyond "everyone has taken this stance so I will take the other stance" lol
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Aionb
Known Hero
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posted April 30, 2016 07:53 PM |
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Edited by Aionb at 19:55, 30 Apr 2016.
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Antalyan said:
Among my friends, I am known for being very pesimistic generally.
But when it comes to H7, I found out I am usually quite optimistic.
Who knows ...
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 30, 2016 08:37 PM |
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It is not so much as changing your opinion on sonething but mainly to the mood of the group. If the group is hopeless then you try to find reasons to bring them hope. Not that it always works but i have seen it happen generaly in many occasions and with different people. I think it is as all reactions, something tries to find an equilibrium
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted April 30, 2016 11:05 PM |
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Editing at the moment. So, how are creatures/heroes/hero classes officially named?
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted May 01, 2016 12:44 AM |
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Edited by Kimarous at 01:21, 01 May 2016.
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EnergyZ said:
Editing at the moment. So, how are creatures/heroes/hero classes officially named?
I think more has been implied than officially stated. Aside from the Fire Dragons (having artwork on the Steam page), only Fire Giants and Rune Priests have been named (but not visually confirmed). At least, that I've seen.
EDIT:
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I'm too lazy to search earlier in the thread for the matter), but with regard to this image... all other Fortress has been highlighted blue, yet this image shows in the distance a Fortress hero with both a red banner and red armour on his mount.
Campaign unique entity or potential "player colour" tinting being added in this expansion? Expectations say the former, hopes say the latter.
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LordFoxton
Hired Hero
Thin is the wall of illusion
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posted May 01, 2016 07:36 AM |
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Kimarous said:
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I'm too lazy to search earlier in the thread for the matter), but with regard to [url=https://ubistatic-a.akamaihd.net/0004/prod/images/160426_Addon_Ann/MMH7_Addon_S3.jpg]this image[/url]... all other Fortress has been highlighted blue, yet this image shows in the distance a Fortress hero with both a red banner and red armour on his mount.
Campaign unique entity or potential "player colour" tinting being added in this expansion? Expectations say the former, hopes say the latter.
That's already been added.
I'm not sure if it was the most recent patch or the one before, but I notice now that if I choose Blue as a player color for Haven for example, and I enable color coding or whatever it's called, my knights/priests/angel heroes appear in Blue clothes/armor on the overland map as well, where it only used to be in combat. It also works with other colors and factions.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted May 01, 2016 08:38 AM |
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LordFoxton said:
Kimarous said:
Apologies if this has been discussed before (I'm too lazy to search earlier in the thread for the matter), but with regard to this image... all other Fortress has been highlighted blue, yet this image shows in the distance a Fortress hero with both a red banner and red armour on his mount.
Campaign unique entity or potential "player colour" tinting being added in this expansion? Expectations say the former, hopes say the latter.
That's already been added.
I'm not sure if it was the most recent patch or the one before, but I notice now that if I choose Blue as a player color for Haven for example, and I enable color coding or whatever it's called, my knights/priests/angel heroes appear in Blue clothes/armor on the overland map as well, where it only used to be in combat. It also works with other colors and factions.
1) Well, there's a definite sign that I've been out of the loop for a while.
2) Neat. 
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Mediczero
Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
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posted May 02, 2016 05:07 PM |
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I was thinking, hopefully TbF would add additional spells. Miss the wasps swarm...
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Aionb
Known Hero
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posted May 02, 2016 05:14 PM |
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Edited by Aionb at 17:17, 02 May 2016.
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I'll add it here, since I don't want to spoil AcidDragon's nice thread.
Antalyan said:
AcidDragon said:
I do not have an army of paid testers at my disposal.
Limbic has but it does not seem to help
Do not forget the paying beta testers they've been using since September! Actually they've been using them even before ... right?
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
