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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted April 19, 2015 09:15 PM |
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Protolisk said:
I wish they don't focus on just magic next week. I want to see a flip-flop between might and magic, every time they reveal a skill.
Also, the fact that they "revealed" an article a day last week was great. Yeah, some were small, but I still enjoyed it. I hope they have enough stuff to do that for a while.
I think they are going to mixx it up with some final stronghold and community news.
Like Stronhold heroes or TS/W-F units from other factions
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted April 19, 2015 09:15 PM |
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With 24 skills (not counting faction skills) there are 276 different unique combinations of any 2 skills. As such, it does seem a bit puzzling that we have several examples of classes sharing the same 2 skills as their major skills, given we only have 36 hero classes - that's sloppy work at best. Giving each class a unique combination of 2 skills as their major skill would be the least they could do to secure variation in the game.
About the "why can't I play a might class without any magic skills" discussion - we should remember that even if the class has a magic skill as favored skill, you don't need to choose it. Of course, it does cut you off from an ultimate skill, but even so, I hope the straight 3-ultimate build will not be something you go for too often, otherwise this system will truly have failed.
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What will happen now?
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted April 19, 2015 09:28 PM |
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alcibiades said:
With 24 skills (not counting faction skills) there are 276 different unique combinations of any 2 skills. As such, it does seem a bit puzzling that we have several examples of classes sharing the same 2 skills as their major skills, given we only have 36 hero classes - that's sloppy work at best. Giving each class a unique combination of 2 skills as their major skill would be the least they could do to secure variation in the game.
Exactly 
I take it as a hint that certain skills are going to have OP ultimates and they know that, so they're just distributing them amongst many factions.
alcibiades said:
About the "why can't I play a might class without any magic skills" discussion - we should remember that even if the class has a magic skill as favored skill, you don't need to choose it. Of course, it does cut you off from an ultimate skill, but even so, I hope the straight 3-ultimate build will not be something you go for too often, otherwise this system will truly have failed.
Its irritating though because there doesn't seem to be any trade off. Its either play with your classes ultimates or play at a disadvantage. If it took two or three skill points to level an ultimate ability then at least not going for it would mean I would get a few extra skills or perks.
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ninjata12
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 19, 2015 10:02 PM |
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I just want to say that I totally agree with cleglaw about the negativity. Come on guys, don't be dinosaurs and adapt. Erwan is trying to simplify H7, but make it intresting at the same time. We don't need super complex skills, we don't need 1 million skills. I really like what I see so far from the developers. The game is simple and has a lot of tactics - the focus will be on the different terrains and positioning and not so much on unit abilities and this is GREAT. Chess is the best strategy game and yet it is so simple. I want an easy to understand game that will be played by millions of people online, not some super-complex game that is played between 10 guys from the forum.
“The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change -”. ― Heraclitus
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted April 19, 2015 10:06 PM |
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You don't get the negativity? Check skill system threads from 2012 and find out how hypocritical it is from Ubisoft to say they care about their fan base and listen to the feedback in order to deliver "the best homm experience".
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted April 19, 2015 10:27 PM |
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ninjata12 said:
“The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change -”. ― Heraclitus
“All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward.” ― Ellen Glasgow
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 02:26 AM |
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"The past is in the past, let it go" - Elsa
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted April 20, 2015 08:03 AM |
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ninjata12 said:
Erwan is trying to simplify H7, but make it intresting at the same time.
Ah, streamlining.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 09:46 AM |
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted April 20, 2015 10:01 AM |
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As good as H3 was, I'd rather have something more.
I'm not content with less.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted April 20, 2015 12:14 PM |
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Stevie said:
GenyaArikado said:
"The past is in the past, let it go" - Elsa
"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana
"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past" - Kane.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 01:31 PM |
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"Do you see the truth now? It is time to bid farewell to the past and embrace what is to come." - Sandro
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted April 20, 2015 02:14 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 14:14, 20 Apr 2015.
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Maurice said:
"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past" - Kane.
“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”
- Frank Herbert, Dune
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 02:39 PM |
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"My Neck, my back. Lick my ***** and my *****" - Khia,"My Neck, My Back"
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted April 20, 2015 03:03 PM |
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Avirosb said:
“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”
- Frank Herbert, Dune
"Whoever controls Dune, controls the spice.
Whoever controls the spice, controls the universe."
At least, that's the way it was quoted just before the ominous "Your battle for Dune begins ... nowwwwww" sounded, when starting a new game of Dune 2 . Man, I spent some hours on that game, hehe.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted April 20, 2015 05:12 PM |
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"We doin' quotes now?" - yours truly
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Protolisk
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 05:22 PM |
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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted April 20, 2015 06:11 PM |
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 06:11 PM |
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"Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play and the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake, I shake it off, I shake it off" - Erwan Le Breton
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2015 06:15 PM |
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Sligneris said:
"Do you see the truth now? It is time to bid farewell to the past and embrace what is to come." - Sandro
Here I hoped that the irony of this quote would be noticed...
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