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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted June 23, 2015 02:30 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 14:31, 23 Jun 2015.
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Hotarubi said:
Another example- there's still the need to bring up female to male upgrades. Meanwhile, this isn't anything new as it has happened before with Rakshasas (5) and Genies (3).
I blame the graphics, but I never actually saw the base Genie as female. More as a youngling, while the upgrade was an elder. Just like I see a dogface on the Demons, while others apparently see a ratface.
Heroes5 has been too long ago for me since I last played it to clearly remember the Rakshasa's graphics for base and upgrade.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted June 23, 2015 02:49 PM |
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I'd simply prefer the dryads to look more like this:
you know, monstruos and treelike and not "magical lady in dress" which is what the pixie is as well.
Mind, i still like both of them (especially pixie. SO VIBRANT!) but they both sort of fill the "floating lady in dress" archetype.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted June 23, 2015 02:51 PM |
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The fact that we voted for this line-up is not really an argument, the vote was a choice between three line-ups that all were flawed, and while I did vote for Fury (and stand by this vote) one of the strongest objections I had against this line-up - apart from the absence of Unicorn - was the Dryad/Pixie duality in core.
When that's said, they could have made the Dryad appear more different. First of all, it's a tree spirit - why then is it floating above ground!? They could also have made it male, if they wanted to differentiate a bit between these units.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 23, 2015 02:58 PM |
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Maurice said:
I blame the graphics, but I never actually saw the base Genie as female. More as a youngling, while the upgrade was an elder.
I also saw Genie as female and its upgrade as male, and just like Avirosb, it never bothered me.
 
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 03:00 PM |
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IIRC there are only female Dryads, so they should change its name then.
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 23, 2015 03:09 PM |
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And then people would complain that they have Treant and mini-treant and reused model of treant just scaled down and more female like 
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 03:26 PM |
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Indeed, what Articun said. Despite these more tree-like dryads looking really awesome they are too similar too treants. And if we must have a walking humanoid tree, I much rather have the giant treant than a human sized dryad.
As for turning it into a male, yeah they could have done that but dryads are female by myth. Wouldn't that be a similar offence as calling a two-headed dog 'Cerberus'? Besides, as I already mentioned before, that pixie is not female. Yes, it has all kinds of girly flowery stuff, but what do you expect from a creature born from flowers (or something like that)? If you look a bit more closely at the creature itself you would notice that it is quite androgynous and alien looking. The problematic spring spirit/snow maiden combi consisted of two units that were very obviously female.
Another pre is that the dryad nor the pixie will share their (almost) exact look with an elemental.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 03:26 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 15:30, 23 Jun 2015.
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kiryu133 said:
I'd simply prefer the dryads to look more like this:
you know, monstruos and treelike and not "magical lady in dress" which is what the pixie is as well.
Mind, i still like both of them (especially pixie. SO VIBRANT!) but they both sort of fill the "floating lady in dress" archetype.
"drys" in greek means oak. and dryad comes from that word. and i think druid comes from that word too in greek.
so indeed dryads should have been wooden and coming out of the ground like the mizu kami(i wouldn't mind a wooden mizu kami with her hair upwards like branches and that's what i was picturing for the dryad when i was voting.) i don't know how they came up with the transparent thingy :/
she looks like a hippy too
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yeah ok there is the treant situation:/ well in that case she could have worn a wooden armor-like thing. or wooden accessories?
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted June 23, 2015 03:30 PM |
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If the problem is the sex of the unit the solution would be to add the Pan instead of Pixie, since Pan and Puck (probable upgrade) are male faeries, somewhat akin to the the species of pixies.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 23, 2015 03:31 PM |
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ASHAN SAYS NO!
Now bend over.
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 03:31 PM |
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Shame that Devs don't have such nice ideas... .
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 23, 2015 03:53 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
besides, we're busy complaining about the double D's: deers n' dragons
This is the first complaint I see about double D's 
Hermes said:
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 23, 2015 04:21 PM |
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[quote name=Elvin
This is the first complaint I see about double D's
But DoubleDeck is such a nice member of the Community.. Why are you all so angry at him
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 04:24 PM |
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How about to make hermaphrodite sprites/pixies?
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted June 23, 2015 04:26 PM |
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Galaad said:
I also saw Genie as female and its upgrade as male, and just like Avirosb, it never bothered me.
The image you posted shows the make-up of the base Genie quite well, as well as somewhat of a breastsize. Something that I failed to notice in the graphics ingame in H3.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 23, 2015 04:28 PM |
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I know, I just took the excuse to post these artworks.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 04:29 PM |
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Regarding the Sun Deer/Moon Doe: Yeah it's kinda silly although we can assume they live in the same place, they just "awake" at different times and Deers are bigger and stronger than the does, so it makes kinda sense (unlike the djinn apprentices suddenly becoming male)
Regarding the dryad: iirc they looked like normal pretty greek ladies in myth so anything beyond that is already an improvement XD. The concept looks cool but they look like treants there
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 23, 2015 04:58 PM |
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Maurice said:
Hotarubi said:
Another example- there's still the need to bring up female to male upgrades. Meanwhile, this isn't anything new as it has happened before with Rakshasas (5) and Genies (3).
I blame the graphics, but I never actually saw the base Genie as female. More as a youngling, while the upgrade was an elder. Just like I see a dogface on the Demons, while others apparently see a ratface.
Heroes5 has been too long ago for me since I last played it to clearly remember the Rakshasa's graphics for base and upgrade.
Besides, we "have the power" to point out these flaws. It still sounds wierd that an upgrade changes its gender. It happened in H3, in H5 and we are... wiser now to point out the flaw at the correct time. We'll see what Ubi and the devs will do (if anything).
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted June 23, 2015 05:02 PM |
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Funny enough, we pointed out the article's name is "ARMIES OF THE SILVA, PART 1" and nobody has bothered to edit that.
Makes we wonder... is this some sort of analogy compared to the game?
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted June 23, 2015 05:08 PM |
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For me, the Pixie/Sprite/Dryad issue stems from the fact that the latter two were upgrades of the Pixie in H5, so they were obviously considered the same type of creature then.
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