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jhb
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posted September 21, 2014 01:38 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 14:06, 21 Sep 2014.
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DarkLord said:
jhb said:
If it was a line up with vampires and titans I would probably try another.
so i guess your vote is Fury
because balance has phoenix and snakes
Basically yea, I started that way, by elimination, like I said before.
Edit: DarkLord said:
but i see your point, choosing from less "out of place"
Exactly, you got it!
Besides the out of place, I started to like fury a bit more, because emerald knights sounded too "paladinish" for me.
But the priority was really the less "out of place" 
DarkLord said:
my point is different, as in my opinion i can tolerate the presence of snake in order to keep the iconic creature which gives me feeling that i am actually playing a faction that existed throughout HoMM series, without loosing the legacy of nature faction
so strenght is my vote! i think it gives the best compromise
I understand, strength is my second choice too, for sure.
@Darklord,
I understand your opinion perfectly. For me it's F > S > B. When I first saw the votes, I was very surprised with Strength representation, I was thinking it would have a LOT more votes. But I guess most of ppl don't really care about the lore and they like the phoenix. I like phoenix too, but summonable like in H5.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 01:45 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 13:45, 21 Sep 2014.
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DarkLord said:
the other thing is that we dont know much about those rotten snakes, maybe they arent that bad in the end
we don't know much about elite blade dancer and deer, maybe they aren't that bad in the end.
double standards all the time that's what i see.
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted September 21, 2014 01:46 PM |
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DarkLord said:
would you be ready to ditch Titans from academy for example if they have other unit that doesnt fit with them?
Like dragon golem for magic bird? Sure. Any day. That is why we have 2 champion units to choose from. Imagine how messed up things would be around here if there was only 1 option.
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somi
Known Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:01 PM |
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DarkLord said:
i agree that having a snake in Sylvan is out of place, same as having phoenix
but its even more out of place not to have unicorns in it
Why would phoenix be out of the question? It is one of the most iconic creatures in hero games, that was in their lineup. A lot of people where angry when h3 changed that.
Phoenix is a must for sylvan, and fits them much more than a dragon.
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dragon
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:13 PM |
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You guys, snake haters do realise that elves betrayed their cousins that now are called dark elves which make them treacherous as snakes.
And you guys who call phoenix chickens do realise that birds are evolved from dinosaurs, that way they are more like dragons.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 21, 2014 02:16 PM |
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Stevie said:
And if there's anything offensive here is the fact that we'll get Unicorns and Snakes in the same line-up and people are trying to defend that.
Taking offense to people's opinions and calling them offensive is the first step towards douchebaggery. Of course you aren't the first but this forum does not need any more of this, you can do better.
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:17 PM |
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dragon said:
You guys, snake haters
Please, let's not start it again, let's keep it into a mature level.
I guess no one here is saying that hate snakes, people just think it doesn't belong the sylvan faction. And that's all!
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:24 PM |
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Elvin said:
Stevie said:
And if there's anything offensive here is the fact that we'll get Unicorns and Snakes in the same line-up and people are trying to defend that.
Taking offense to people's opinions and calling them offensive is the first step towards douchebaggery. Of course you aren't the first but this forum does not need any more of this, you can do better.
but war overlord wasn't a douchebag when he raged saying that "Seeing the line-up that is an insult to the history of the series leading in the polls is another. "
but stevie is?
double standards elvin and you can do better as a moderator first not talking to stevie like that, and try to disitrubute red stars better because war overlord got extremely bitter after that and raged on! but no war overlord is an old member right?
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dragon
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:27 PM |
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@jhb
You do realise that elves betrayed their own kind so snake perfectly fits in sylvan
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:29 PM |
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Snakes might not fit into some goody-two shoes fairy town, but Sylvan is not that. Sylvan is about protecting the forest and using dangerous forest critters, sneaky hit-and-run tactics and ambushes to achieve that goal is perfectly viable. Why do you think (dark)elves are such a good fit as assassins and poison masters: it's very close to their natural fighting strategy in the forest.
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:30 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 15:00, 21 Sep 2014.
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dragon said:
@jhb
You do realise that elves betrayed their own kind so snake perfectly fits in sylvan
lol, I respectfully disagree, snakes are better elsewhere.
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@ Dragon
Yeah man, let's bring stealth unicorns too. Maybe dryads should start using daggers.
Stealth was pretty much the trademark of dungeon in H6.
In H5 they also had invisible units with poison attack.
But it's ok, dinosaurs are also animals, maybe we should bring some of them.... What about toads? They live in the forests.
Stealthy toads.
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dragon
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:40 PM |
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good point Steyn
elves are sneaky they are hiding among the trees shooting you with the arrows, they using ambushes.
and sneak and ambush pretty much describe snakes
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 21, 2014 02:46 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 14:47, 21 Sep 2014.
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@ChrisD1
Elvin said:
Of course you aren't the first...
My point is that more than a few members are beginning to cross the line and things are bound to get more heated than they already are. I can overlook the odd comment here and there but we have long crossed that point and some action must be taken. As for Stevie, he has gotten more than a few warnings about his forum behaviour, in public and in private so yes, I am more strict with him than others with a relatively clean slate. That does not mean I have a personal problem with him and he knows that.
Speaking of red star distribution I could use some help like I have mentioned a few times before. I typically work from 6:00-16:00 or 17:00 and from 20-23:00 or so, leaving me very little free time and even less enthusiasm to go through every post so I mostly skim through. To be honest I am at my limit and that is why I have asked for your support in the first place.
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Royin
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 02:53 PM |
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What do red stars do anyway?
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 03:00 PM |
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Elvin said:
@ChrisD1
Elvin said:
Of course you aren't the first...
My point is that more than a few members are beginning to cross the line and things are bound to get more heated than they already are. I can overlook the odd comment here and there but we have long crossed that point and some action must be taken. As for Stevie, he has gotten more than a few warnings about his forum behaviour, in public and in private so yes, I am more strict with him than others with a relatively clean slate. That does not mean I have a personal problem with him and he knows that.
Speaking of red star distribution I could use some help like I have mentioned a few times before. I typically work from 6:00-16:00 or 17:00 and from 20-23:00 or so, leaving me very little free time and even less enthusiasm to go through every post so I mostly skim through. To be honest I am at my limit and that is why I have asked for your support in the first place.
red star distribution is a moderator's job? how can you ask my support?i do my best not getting out of line and i try to provide solid arguments everywhere here.
one of those members beginning to cross the line is war overlord ingoring reason,pushing everyone into reaction.
"Shhhh, just wait one year till people see the big pile of snow they chose, it'll be priceless!"
this was posted by storm giant. where did stevie actually said that balance is a piece of "snow" exactly? i will look at his comments too, but i doubt he ever said exactly that.
worst=/"snow" and we all know what he means by "snow"
just because balance voters here are more than fury voters does not mean the latter don't get an opinion, or that they are the "odd" ones.
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adriancat
Famous Hero
Protector Of The Peace
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posted September 21, 2014 03:01 PM |
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dragon said:
You guys, snake haters do realise that elves betrayed their cousins that now are called dark elves which make them treacherous as snakes.
And you guys who call phoenix chickens do realise that birds are evolved from dinosaurs, that way they are more like dragons.
I think Elves betrayed no one. It was the work of demons.
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hammerhand
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 03:08 PM |
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jhb said:
dragon said:
@jhb
You do realise that elves betrayed their own kind so snake perfectly fits in sylvan
lol, I respectfully disagree, snakes are better elsewhere.
Edit:
@ Dragon
Yeah man, let's bring stealth unicorns too. Maybe dryads should start using daggers.
the ancient Greek forest god Dionysus is also lord of wildness and mad woman
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 03:09 PM |
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I think dragon is referring to the Elven High King ignoring Queen Tuidana's pleas for help when the Falcon/Griffin Empire invaded her land...
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hammerhand
Hired Hero
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posted September 21, 2014 03:19 PM |
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Actually I don't know why ancient people thought snake is eviler than wolf.
Snakes in European forests are rare£¬ wolves are many.
Mostly snakes attack people to protect themselves£¬wolves hunt human for food.
Snake venom usually take hours to kill a person£¬ wolf can kill a man in 10 minutes.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 21, 2014 03:23 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 15:26, 21 Sep 2014.
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@ChrisD1
Not your support in particular. Any poster who wants to see more posts rewarded can mention a good post they saw in the feedback thread. It doesn't cost anything and it can help a lot.
Strictly speaking, considering the balance or a lineup crap is not against the CoC. It is an opinion. What is not fine is when you call someone's opinion offensive because that is bound to provoke. It is not a direct provocation or a personal insult but let's face it, it will rub people the wrong way. It is not forbidden but I'd rather we played nice.
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