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Thread: Boy... they sure did MISTREAT this franchise This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · «PREV / NEXT»
dark-whisperer
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posted December 29, 2014 12:59 PM
Edited by dark-whisperer at 13:01, 29 Dec 2014.

Rakshasa92 said:
Let's all agree that HOMM5+6+7 are probably good for little children.

Because they hate old times, old style, old graphics, graphics over gameplay and they just like WOW, I hate the WOW-age.


Lets all agree that HOMM1+2+3 are probably good for old people.

Because they hate modern times, modern style, modern graphics, gameplay important as graphics and they just like DAOC, I hate the DAOC-age.

There you go. This makes as much sense as your post.

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cleglaw
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posted December 29, 2014 01:03 PM

i like h3 and h6.

yes i like h6.

h5 has worst aspects of 3d and worst art style. and h6 is not that much buggy when you do necesarry patches.

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Salamandre
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posted December 29, 2014 01:06 PM

heh, rape became mistreat. With all respect, sorry guys/mods, this is ridiculous. Please read artu's post on previous page, it says all you need to know about.
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posted December 29, 2014 01:29 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
Let's all agree that HOMM5+6+7 are probably good for little children.

Because they hate old times, old style, old graphics, graphics over gameplay.

First of all, how do you know what will Heroes VII be like? Ubi has just published arts for 2 factions and they seem to be the most mature from all games they created. I know that your opinion differs but nevermind. Do you know why I still play ToE? Because of its gameplay. Graphics don't bother me andthat is enough.
If you have read other threads, you may know that I recently got Nintendo 2DS. Do you know what is one of the reasons I bought it? Ability to legally play in NES and Game Boy games, who are quite old (as for video games, of course). One of my favourite musicians is Ella Fitzgerald, my favourite actress is Audrey Hepburn. Please, don't tell me I hate old times just because I like Heroes V.
PS. Speaking about Ubi Heroes games, your hatred towards them is pretty well known. If you despise them so much, why your avatar is Vampire lord from Heroes VI? It seems that are not all that bad.

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posted December 29, 2014 01:43 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 13:45, 29 Dec 2014.

Salamandre said:
heh, rape became mistreat. With all respect, sorry guys/mods, this is ridiculous. Please read artu's post on previous page, it says all you need to know about.
Again, saying things like "[Insert game here] killed my family" is a moronic thing to do, not because it's oh so offensive but because one comes off as a crass tryhard with zero originality.

Kind of like Ubi

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artu
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posted December 29, 2014 01:49 PM

Zero originality isnt something the mods edit and "X game killed my family" is quite a dysfunctional metaphor.
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posted December 29, 2014 01:55 PM

artu said:
Zero originality isnt something the mods edit and "X game killed my family" is quite a dysfunctional metaphor.
Well so is "[developer] you-know-what'd this franchise".

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artu
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posted December 29, 2014 01:58 PM

Nope. It's quite ordinary but it's functional. Actually, it's ordinary enough to be considered a dead metaphor.
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Avirosb
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posted December 29, 2014 02:04 PM

Wait, so does metaphors have to make sense or not?
Because I'm pretty sure something as intangible as a franchise would not be able to either consent or dissent.

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Dave_Jame
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posted December 29, 2014 02:10 PM

Man.. topics like this are the reason I don't post here so often anymore.

So much unnescesary hate and negative atitude Why? One bad game? M&M is a large franchise of several geners so in how many games did Ubi suck again?

H V? Most of people here will say that in the end it was one of the best games in the lineup.
DM? Not an epic game but until this time it is rememberd for its combat system. And in EU it was well recieved.
CoH? Sure, anime-ish style is not for everybody, but it was a great, well recieved game. One of the best on its platfrom.
H VI? OK this one was bad.
DoC? A better more iteligent and regulary expanded game then its rivals. If Ubi had made a better promotion it would have lasted.
MaM X? Not a epic success but for what it was, it was a great game.

So.. Most of these games had technical difficulties and/or bad promotion but as games they were OK or even above avarage....

So how did Ubi mistreated the franchise again? They made games in it?
If you just don't like the art then go play WoW or whatever your eyes like.
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Salamandre
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posted December 29, 2014 02:11 PM

On the practical side, we have a CoC. Then we have censored words. Rape is not censored and in this context it was not offensive.

If mods start to add their own rules, we will have soon unintelligible posts, like: I snowed her, but the snow didn't want to snowball my snowberry. Hopefully her snowbird snowbrushed my snowy snowbush, and finally we could snowier some snowflakes, out of any snowploughs.

Just sayin'.

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Avirosb
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posted December 29, 2014 02:12 PM

Dave_Jame raises a good point.
Ubi is more like a pimp than a sex offender.

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artu
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posted December 29, 2014 02:13 PM
Edited by artu at 14:15, 29 Dec 2014.

Avirosb said:
Wait, so does metaphors have to make sense or not?
Because I'm pretty sure something as intangible as a franchise would not be able to either consent or dissent.

It's the action that is being associated with another action and they are functionally analogous, when you talk about a killer movie, you are not talking about a subject that can commit murder, do you? Symbolism doesnt work that way. I'm sure you are aware of this on an intuitive level, when someone says "the company raped the merchandise" it is quite clear to anyone that rape means, they screwed it up harshly and on a level that caused great disapproval.
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Galaad
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posted December 29, 2014 02:14 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:16, 29 Dec 2014.

Salamandre said:
If mods start to add their own rules

I don't think is that. Out of the 3 first pages of the threads, two people did complain about the naming, and the thread's title still remains intelligible.

Avirsob said:
Dave_Jame raises a good point.
Ubi is more like a pimp than a sex offender.

ROFL
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Dave_Jame
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posted December 29, 2014 02:16 PM

Avirosb said:
Dave_Jame raises a good point.
Ubi is more like a pimp than a sex offender.


In other wrords The games were ok-ish. usually.
They had problems but also were made by Ubi

Sadly Ubi has a bad habit of not looking after it's "line-up" THis is not M&M only. Most brands under ubi suffer from this (AC, FC, Prince oP etc.)

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posted December 29, 2014 02:16 PM

Salamandre said:
On the practical side, we have a CoC. Then we have censored words. Rape is not censored and in this context it was not offensive.
In the context of the OP it was the least offensive.
It's quite clear this topic was meant to offend.

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artu
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posted December 29, 2014 02:20 PM

Galaad said:
Salamandre said:
If mods start to add their own rules

I don't think is that. Out of the 3 first pages of the threads, two people did complain about the naming, and the thread's title still remains intelligible.

That doesnt mean anything when the complaints are based on an absurd premise. If I talk about the punch line of a joke and someone complains that the word punch is offensive to victims of a beating, the mods shouldnt act upon it.
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Galaad
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posted December 29, 2014 02:22 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:25, 29 Dec 2014.

artu said:
If I talk about the punch line of a joke and someone complains that the word punch is offensive to victims of a beating, the mods shouldnt act upon it.

Well I agree some people can be over-sensitive, but should mods ignore them ? Plus the word MISTREAT keeping caps lock ships good enough the message, imo.
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artu
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posted December 29, 2014 02:25 PM

Galaad said:
Well I agree some people can be over-sensitive, but should mods ignore them?

Yes.
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Avirosb
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posted December 29, 2014 02:29 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 14:32, 29 Dec 2014.

artu said:
It's the action that is being associated with another action and they are functionally analogous, when you talk about a killer movie, you are not talking about a subject that can commit murder, do you? Symbolism doesnt work that way. I'm sure you are aware of this on an intuitive level, when someone says "the company raped the merchandise" it is quite clear to anyone that rape means, they screwed it up harshly and on a level that caused great disapproval.
We don't have an equivalent of that in my language, which I'm kinda glad for.

Overuse of certain words for the sake of being edgy only serve to desensitize, and in turn trivialize serious matters.

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