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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Minastir's HVIII line-ups
Thread: Minastir's HVIII line-ups This thread is 13 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 · «PREV
Mediczero
Mediczero


Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
posted September 10, 2015 07:12 PM

ShadowMaster said:
BTW,while we're on the subject of "alternate" factions, I had an idea recently about a Ashan faction that could be their "Forge", but with the difference being that they (the Ashan forge) came from a parallel world, not unlike ours, but were the natural resources were magic and now it's depleted and that's the reason why they arrive in Ashan. Maybe you could create a faction around that ?

What about no..? Okay i'm up for seeing a forge faction done right, but that idea isn't what I would call the best. I prefers a industrial revolution theme, where the faction is a group individuals desirering to revolutionize the world into a new Era of enlightment and technology, though at the cost of the old ways and gods.

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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted September 12, 2015 07:02 AM

ShadowMaster said:
BTW,while we're on the subject of "alternate" factions, I had an idea recently about a Ashan faction that could be their "Forge", but with the difference being that they (the Ashan forge) came from a parallel world, not unlike ours, but were the natural resources were magic and now it's depleted and that's the reason why they arrive in Ashan. Maybe you could create a faction around that ?


Dark elven Sylvan. You know you want it

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ShadowMaster
ShadowMaster


Adventuring Hero
HOMM3fa(g)n
posted September 13, 2015 09:41 PM

Mediczero said:
ShadowMaster said:
BTW,while we're on the subject of "alternate" factions, I had an idea recently about a Ashan faction that could be their "Forge", but with the difference being that they (the Ashan forge) came from a parallel world, not unlike ours, but were the natural resources were magic and now it's depleted and that's the reason why they arrive in Ashan. Maybe you could create a faction around that ?

What about no..? Okay i'm up for seeing a forge faction done right, but that idea isn't what I would call the best. I prefers a industrial revolution theme, where the faction is a group individuals desirering to revolutionize the world into a new Era of enlightment and technology, though at the cost of the old ways and gods.

So, maybe some kind of Techno-Mages or something steampunkish ? I can't immediately imagine what their units might be, since mine were based on modern organizations and technology (Protester - Anarchist, Agent - Federal Agent, somewhere later along the line - Hacker - Master Hacker (Hacker Mage). But, there is never enough steampunk in the world, so why the hell not !
GenyaArikado said:
ShadowMaster said:
BTW,while we're on the subject of "alternate" factions, I had an idea recently about a Ashan faction that could be their "Forge", but with the difference being that they (the Ashan forge) came from a parallel world, not unlike ours, but were the natural resources were magic and now it's depleted and that's the reason why they arrive in Ashan. Maybe you could create a faction around that ?


Dark elven Sylvan. You know you want it

But...we've already got Dark Elves, don't we ? Or is it some dark and twisted parody of their original plans and concepts.




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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted September 13, 2015 09:54 PM

In my mind, if there will ever be a "Forge" faction in ashan it will along the lines of enhancement or a non-magical race that cannot use or even sense magic at all, so it evolved around either enhancing themselves or by creating some kind of technology. By technology, i don't mean lazers and such but more likely, simple machinery more complex than the ballista. As for enhancement, i mean units that have put upon themselves weapons or into animals, like swords, razors, spikes etc to become stronger and more formidable.

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Mediczero
Mediczero


Famous Hero
Warlord of the sea
posted September 14, 2015 11:22 AM

Articun said:
In my mind, if there will ever be a "Forge" faction in ashan it will along the lines of enhancement or a non-magical race that cannot use or even sense magic at all, so it evolved around either enhancing themselves or by creating some kind of technology. By technology, i don't mean lazers and such but more likely, simple machinery more complex than the ballista. As for enhancement, i mean units that have put upon themselves weapons or into animals, like swords, razors, spikes etc to become stronger and more formidable.

And what would that race be? Thrust me, of experiance I can say an insect race would likely end up being wierd and generally unfitting, but it's not like I can think of a better idea for your forge.
Honestly I like the idea of some sort of technomages better, as it seems more fitting.

ShadowMaster said:
So, maybe some kind of Techno-Mages or something steampunkish ? I can't immediately imagine what their units might be, since mine were based on modern organizations and technology (Protester - Anarchist, Agent - Federal Agent, somewhere later along the line - Hacker - Master Hacker (Hacker Mage). But, there is never enough steampunk in the world, so why the hell not !

Modern you say..? Well as it wasn't far out anough!
I think we can agree a steampunk setting works better with all the rest.
As for the lineup, the Pyro/Pyromancer idea from the original forge still works, as well as a footsoldier armed with a primitive riffle could be a part of the core. A grenadier or maybe even a soldier armed with a handheld cannon could be elite and a giant, either fully mechanical or a mechanical suit, I think would be a nice champion.
But personally I think it lacks some more fantasy... Ideas..?

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Minastir
Minastir


Promising
Famous Hero
posted October 12, 2015 11:17 AM

kiryu133 said:
guys, guys, listen to this:

Pirate. Nagas.

yeah

anyway, cool lineups.

I would switch places of oliphant and Cyclops in fortress. Otherwise cool.

Not really feeling the Lion rider. I also miss the Justicar or any female soldier... Not my favorite haven.

Too many elves (in both "elf" factions. Matriarch is enough for dungeon and snow any and all blade dancers. I hate blade dancers).

Necropolis is pretty cool, but I'd personally prefer Mummies as neutrals.

Academy is... Academy. Looks cool. Some silly designs, but that's Ashan for ya

Sanctuary is pure cool

I don't hink I'll ever like Ashan Inferno, this is no exception too human and fiery.

Faketress I can get behind, though I'd combine Jötunn and fire giant and put Valkyrie in Champ. hehe, cave mole

Fortress is nice. I feel the lizardman and sharpshooter should be combined to allow another beast and reduce the main-race numbers a bit. Otherwise fantastic.

Polis is cool as far as conflux goes, but all elementals should probably be at the same tier? On the other hand, If it's kept like this the creatures you choose can decide which champ you can/can't pick. like if you get all the elementals you can only get tetramantal and of you get all the non-elementals you get the magic-elemental.

Cool factions. I mostly like them though they still have that Ashan feel...

Didn't had time to take care of this thread but anyway, Hi!

Thanks, it still has that Ashan feel because it still takes place in Ashan. Made it in Ashan becuase that most likely going to be the world for at least another Heroes games if we want it or not
So even if it is Ashan I have tried to spice things up and make it a little better than it is now )

- Stronghold - I could switch places but then there would be two shooters in elite and two strong melee walkers (Behemoth and Oliphant)

- Haven - You know the haven is problematic There was a lot of changes to haven and a lot of ideas, but you would have to read though this thread more, the lion rider:there was griffin rider in his place but people didn't like that griffin was missing in core or elite, another idea was gold dragon but there is already enough dragons so the lion rider it is I also like Justicar so I think I will switch Sentinel for Justicar or some other female warrior

- I think I will remove the blade dancer for something else, not sure for what right now, and in dungeon I will also replace Dark Raider with something else.

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farfromrefuge
farfromrefuge


Adventuring Hero
posted October 12, 2015 01:12 PM
Edited by farfromrefuge at 13:14, 12 Oct 2015.

Give a proper blade dancer to the Dungeon, after all, Dark Elves fit the theme much better from any point of view. And exchange him for HoMM V Dryad in the Sylvan line-up. Dryads were iconic for that faction, at least for me and your pixies do not cut it.

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