Belisarius said:

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magnomagus said:

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In next version brimstone rain will double up the attack bonus from ammo cart for everyone, also the tent will heal more HP, which requires me to revert it back to 3 shots to balance it.

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There is much more options for War Machines as skill this way.

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..and no there are always exactly the same amount of combo's possible.

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Yes. Technically speaking no matter how one reorders perks, there are always the same amount of combinations. Which I believe is pointless to discuss, but also does not says anything about a Skill.

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Engineering + Catapult + Adv. Catapult;
Engineering + Tent + Adv. Tent.

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That being said these combos are pointless.
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They are pointless cause that is how War Machine skill is made now (even with the changes), and until perks are "reordered" they will always stay that way. Which is exactly the point.

To follow my logic, and see if it gets us anywhere, lets divide War Machine to 3 parts, Schools: ballista, catapult and tent. All those three have basic perk and advanced perk, each.

If Ammo Cart benefit (restores ammo cart + double it's hp) is in Engineering. (only there); and If:
Engineering is first in Middle, provided if it also gives equally beneficial things to all 3 schools: catapult, ballista and tent (or gives none to them = also equally); Then:
Once one has Engineering, all three branches would be (equally) allowed to be developed to Advanced perk. (With beneficial things coming from them, put at players choice). Which also gives @magno the option to "reinvent", change, balance, them.

At present it is not even possible to have Engineering (at present it gives +2 initiative to all war machines) with Brimstone Rain, or Engineering with Plague Tent.

This is how I meant that such change would give more options to War Machines. It would give 3 distinctive options to develop the skill, while keeping Engineering (the Ammo Cart benefit + eventual benefit for all 3 schools).
The eventual benefit can be let's say 10% (or other %) to Initiative of tent, catapult and ballista. Then again this benefit can be anything else: whatever is appropriate (doable) and equally beneficial to all 3.

EDIT: On second thought I can't find any logic behind present situation, Engineering being second perk in Ballista branch. It makes the currently strongest branch even stronger, preferable to take; While also making the other two, catapult and tent, even weaker and therefore less desirable.
It gives +2 initiative to all war machines... should be first in middle. Maybe that 2 initiative can be the extra benefit for someone who decides to take Brimstone Rain or Plague Tent. Maybe even without the need to change them as perks.

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matod said:

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In next version brimstone rain will double up the attack bonus from ammo cart for everyone, also the tent will heal more HP, which requires me to revert it back to 3 shots to balance it.

I like this magno cause it will make games shorter

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@magnomagus - that means that Brimstone will give +6 Attack to everyone. While this is good for any race, Necropolis will be totally overpowered when you couple this with the +6 Attack from Leadership. 12 Attack just for 8 skill slots.

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devilfire said:

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@theGryph - actually it was my idea, but whatever, I`m glad that you and Belisarius like it

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Nordos said:

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BTW, what about exchanging Ballista and Engineering? Currently, you can't aquire Engineering and Plague Tent or Brimstone Rain...

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Dunadd said:

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How do i stop getting email updates for every post in this thread? I've tried making a new post and unticking the "Email notification" box , but that doesn't work, and there's no link in the emails for unsubscribing either.

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