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Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: Global Modding: Ashan to the trashcan edition
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Articun
Articun


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As i dream, so shall it be!
posted July 12, 2016 04:28 PM

I disagree. No matter what they say, the truth of the matter is that because sanctuary was associated with heroes 6, they didn't want to use it at all. One of the favored factions and they refused to use it.

If a writer is a good one, stories can abount. Especially in the story of Ivan and his personal tale. The stories from the Nagas point of view that have similar problems and honor would be much more essential than say the story of sylvan.

But anyway... Heroes VII should have started with Fortress, Sanctuary, Academy, Sylvan, Haven and then let us choose between Necropolis/Stronghold/Dungeon/Inferno.

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verriker
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posted July 12, 2016 04:36 PM

Antalyan said:
I also miss it really much. Definitely one of my most favourite factions. But it seems there is no place for it in official Ashan stories, they're too conservative according to storywriters.


nor in official Ashan to the Trashcan stories, sorry no naga supremacists here lol
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Articun
Articun


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posted July 12, 2016 04:37 PM

Could there be a Naga faction though in this new world of yours verriker? Or a water based faction with Nagas in it?

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verriker
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posted July 12, 2016 04:50 PM

the nagas are back to the Academy most likely, at least for the default lineup lol

there is a chance of a water faction without the nagas though lol
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posted July 12, 2016 05:27 PM
Edited by frostymuaddib at 17:28, 12 Jul 2016.

Maybe Nagas became the main source for the sushi on Ashan?

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Zeki
Zeki


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posted July 12, 2016 05:54 PM

I would still like an eastern asia themed faction, regardless of wether or not there are nagas in it. Sanctuary was the only good thing about h6 for me.
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The_Green_Drag
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posted July 12, 2016 07:03 PM

^^

I agree, but not because I think Sanctuary was on point as a Water themed faction or anything. The Japanese part was a little too heavy when they started giving units Japanese names. And the water/snow spirits and Kappa were distasteful.

Cool concept though. The actual Naga creature and the Kirin had some awesome abilities I thought. With some beast units at the elite tier, this faction would shine.

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posted July 12, 2016 09:01 PM

LizardWarrior said:
I got enough material to add at least 3-4 more factions , models for both creatures and heroes

Do the new creatures' animations fit to H7 standard ones (attack, idle, critical hit etc.)?

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... perhaps with townscreens it's gonna be trickier...
H3 fortress ftw I may find and import a bull model and reskin it for a better h3 like gorgon, a re-skin of lava elemental may work too, still a bull would. I'm not so sure they are going to add a serpent fly, so we may need to import/make/improvise one.


I think Kobalt may be interested in to draw townscreen for H3 Fortress (maybe even remake of the old one). He posted few pictures of fortress creatures here in HC sometime ago.

I was thinking about the Serpent/Dragon Flies too. The models would be the easier part but the textures and especially the animations will be hard at least for me.

I also think the name of H3 Fortress should be changed. Somehow "fortress" doesn't fit to a marshy faction imo. Something like Slough or Morassfort or something. Someone whose English is mother tongue can come up with some good name for the faction.


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LizardWarrior
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posted July 12, 2016 09:45 PM

foxxxer said:

Do the new creatures' animations fit to H7 standard ones (attack, idle, critical hit etc.)?



Yes, they got enough animations, including multiple attacks, getting hit, dying, running, walking and so on. And I can always copy animation sequences for more uses if I'm short of them.

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I think Kobalt may be interested in to draw townscreen for H3 Fortress (maybe even remake of the old one). He posted few pictures of fortress creatures here in HC sometime ago.


I saw his pictures and they were awesome But I haven't seen him in a while and I don't know if he would like to do that, especially since making a Townscreen is a ton of work and requires a lot of spare time.

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I was thinking about the Serpent/Dragon Flies too. The models would be the easier part but the textures and especially the animations will be hard at least for me.


First let's get there, maybe as a last instance I may try to animate a serpent fly myself.

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I also think the name of H3 Fortress should be changed. Somehow "fortress" doesn't fit to a marshy faction imo. Something like Slough or Morassfort or something. Someone whose English is mother tongue can come up with some good name for the faction.



Well, I think fortress fits pretty well, but maybe Verriker as a native speaker may find a better name.
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Aionb
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posted July 12, 2016 09:54 PM
Edited by Aionb at 21:56, 12 Jul 2016.

Talking about Dragon Flies. And the guy is RO and Fortress enthusiast as well, so maybe you can work something out

Edit: heh, sorry for coming up late ...
And Fortress is the better name. Dwarfess can search for its own name.

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verriker
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posted July 12, 2016 11:04 PM

probably we'll do our best to avoid too much eurocentrism and will play to the factions' potential for diverse and immersive flavour,
however I think we'll be trying to sidestep the whole Erwin road of blatant and perhaps insensitive cultural stereotype where the Orcs are crude ciphers for the Mongols and the Nagas = Japanese, and duchies just ripping off real world countries wholescale and such, perhaps a bit more subtle and less appropriative in that regard lol

not sure we want to swap out the Fortress name personally, it's got the legacy behind it and we sort of aim to make the point that this is what the Fortress in Heroes should be in our opinion, but maybe if someone can think of an amazing name lol (Ziggurat might be good lol)
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Articun
Articun


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posted July 13, 2016 11:31 AM

For what is worth, i am thanking you guys for taking the time to work on this mod. And the thanks are going much deeper since i know that you hate heroes VII and yet, instead of ignoring it, you are trying to work on it and make it a bit better. I know that not all agree on your vision, i may not agree 100% on it either, but, i am thankful that with this mod the game will really turn out into something different, akin to a new game. Lizard has added and i believe will add a lot of new content, be it as neutrals, or as new units to current factions and maybe later on new Factions and skills.

What you are doing really, is the groundwork for more people to get involved and expand upon the idea that the game can be enriched. Maybe quantomas will show interest in writting a new and better AI for the game, maybe someone can find a way to gain access to the source code making more core changes easier. But in the bottom line, being able to have 20 factions to choose from (counting that maybe Preserve, Asylumn, Rampart etc will become available as separate entities) will make the game much more fun and enjoyable, not to mention replayable. Also, i expect a lot from the skill system overhaul and the rework of the governor system

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LizardWarrior
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posted July 13, 2016 12:24 PM

Thank you for your kind words It kinda baffles me how the devs simply fail to deliver something good, it's like they simply refuse to, as for me, even if I don't enjoy playing the game, I enjoy working with 3d models and unreal engine, I personally try to avoid h6 editor as much as possible and use regular udk instead to preserve my sanity

Also Chaos Hydra, 2nd Hydra upgrade


I know I postponed the mod a lot, but expect a release this week, I aim for Friday, meanwhile I'm busy packing all those things up and programming the installer.
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Articun
Articun


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posted July 13, 2016 12:28 PM

Whenever you can release it before the expansion it will provide a nice buffer and tease before we see the recent failings of ubilimbic.

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lotihoti
lotihoti


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posted July 13, 2016 12:35 PM

What does your mod include on release?

I bought the game only because your mod - my hope of inferno getting included is still there

Playing through campaigns right now, but after i finish them i would love to test new races, creatures, create some by myself etc.

Is there a wiki for modding or something? Tutorials?

Thanx

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The_Green_Drag
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posted July 13, 2016 01:35 PM

Would it look too weird if you put the hydra heads on the body of one of the dragons, maybe the green dragon? Just trying to think of a way to give it legs.

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 13, 2016 01:35 PM

Lizzie should be getting a share for every H7 copy he sells ^^
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LizardWarrior
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posted July 13, 2016 01:40 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 13:46, 13 Jul 2016.

lotihoti said:
What does your mod include on release?


*new necropolis line-up
*new dungeon line-up
*new sylvan line-up
*new champion for haven
*1 extra creature + 2 second upgrades per faction
*more neutral creatures
*modified necro town screen
*new heroes
*new spells
*new heroes portraits/artworks
*reworked warcries
*heroes get more movement
*morale and luck cap increased by 30
*the option to remove flanking
*offense and defense directly affect creatures via percentages
*logistics is percentage based
*ashan goes to the trashcan
*a surprise

lotihoti said:

I bought the game only because your mod - my hope of inferno getting included is still there


What have we done, people now buy h7 because of us

lotihoti said:

Is there a wiki for modding or something? Tutorials?



I made a tutorial

The_Green_Drag said:
Would it look too weird if you put the hydra heads on the body of one of the dragons, maybe the green dragon? Just trying to think of a way to give it legs.


I got to combine two anim sets that way, that might turn to be pretty difficult
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Selpen
Selpen


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posted July 13, 2016 03:16 PM
Edited by Selpen at 15:17, 13 Jul 2016.

LizardWarrior said:


*a surprise



Hmmm

Interesting.

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lotihoti
lotihoti


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posted July 13, 2016 04:45 PM

Im totally intrested in that devil... I even love it... Looks so damn cool ^^
The upgrade could be a in flame devil thing, where you just **** your pants if your going to c it.

Thx for the list and for the links keep up the good work

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