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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Reparations & White Privilege
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 05, 2020 04:48 PM

Reparations & White Privilege

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVa-HAsB-xQ


Why there needs to be a conversation about reparations specifically about blacks.

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CountBezuhoff
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posted June 05, 2020 08:31 PM
Edited by CountBezuhoff at 20:35, 05 Jun 2020.

I believe there are three main points to consider when discussing reparations for blacks:

1. Are reparations legally and ethically justified or are they pure populism?

2. If there indeed exist moral and legal grounds on which to base such a measure, how should blacks be compensated? Financially? Morally? Legislatively? Should all blacks be compensated equally? Even those whose ancestors were never slaves? What about whose were later arrivals? Some blacks were shipped to America as early as the 16th century, while others arrived just as slavery was abolished. Would that also be taken into account?

3. Would reparations be financially justifiable or just a waste of money? This question could be the real deal-breaker, even more so when considering that virtually all supporters of the reparation idea are calling first and foremost for financial indemnification rather than any other kind of recompsense.

I, personally, do not see how one will ever be able to make up to those who had suffered under the whip so long ago and have now long cast away both their iron and bodily shackles. I fail even more miserably to recognize how in the world one would be able to appease the vocal calls for, essentially, a huge welfare package without bankrupting the whole of the USA. And, most importantly of all, I do not believe such an action would change a whole lot of things. It might be of use to some poor blacks who wish to start anew, but most of the ones inhabiting slum areas and ghettos would probably waste it all without second thought.

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Stevie
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posted June 05, 2020 09:33 PM

I disagree with the concept entirely. What is the justification behind it? If it's something along the lines of "My ancestors were slaves to your ancestors, so you owe me X", it's invalid. Let's not even talk about how (un)practical wealth redistribution on those grounds would be.
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 05, 2020 09:39 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 21:46, 05 Jun 2020.

It isn't redistribution if it was never their money to begin with, which it isn't. That's why it's called reparation. If you kidnap somebody and make them build your house that you then give to your child, the person who was kidnapped is owed compensation. The child might not be personally culpable to the crime but they are still in possession of something that doesn't belong to them and it wouldn't be an injustice to take something that was never theirs.

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Salamandre
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posted June 05, 2020 09:42 PM

Yes, f your are able to prove that every individual's fortune (from those who will pay) has a percentage coming from slavery, and what percentage exactly. Either is just ransacking honest people.

So good luck with that.
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 05, 2020 09:51 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 21:55, 05 Jun 2020.

That's not necessary. Governments operate on a macro level. Not all US states receive equal federal funding and certain states are targeted for certain programs or grants and get more money than others. As part of the plan to rebuild the south after the Civil War, they didn't go through the impossible task of deciding how many dollars and cents were owed to who.

It was a conversation during the Civil War to give reparations to blacks, but it fell through for obvious reasons. People didn't want to give up the things that didn't belong to them. Naturally, a thief rarely does.

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posted June 05, 2020 10:02 PM
Edited by Stevie at 22:05, 05 Jun 2020.

But you already have that, don't you? I am sure that there are programs and efforts and grants allocated for such purposes. It's not wrong to think of less fortunate people and give them a helping hand. Even here we have our gypsies and such and they get aided by our government and education system to give them a better shot at life (if they'd only help themselves too). I'm more or less fine with that.

But that's not what I'm understanding "reparations" is about. The baggage behind that word is different. It's like someone owes someone else, because they're guilty of something. That doesn't stand. No one is guilty for their ancestor's actions. Heck, no one's guilty for what their father or mother did before them, let alone ancestors they never even met.

Do you personally feel guilty about something you didn't do and feel the need to repair it?
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posted June 05, 2020 11:37 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 23:43, 05 Jun 2020.

Hey, I want a reparation from the Italians and the Moroccan, too. They invaded us 2000 years (the romans) and 1000 years (the arabs) ago. Can I get my repairs in fresh Pizza and hashish, please?
Why aren't they talking about the reparations owed to the natives, btw? Oh yeah! cause they were exterminated, not enslaved, so they don't have descendants to receive the reparation.
This is just more pandering, can't go anywhere. At the same time this conversation is happening, there are white, black and latino people that went unemployed or bankrupted due to the Covid crisis and Nancy Antoinette is sticking them the middle finger, while bailing out corporations and lobbyists.
I'm not saying there isn't systemic racism in America, I'm saying this is just propaganda from the same privileged people that wont allow for UBI or UHC, something that would help all this minorities and the great unspoken majority, the poor class. Once the election period is over you wont ear a word about this and the reason you ear about it now is precisely because they know they can forget it as soon as they get the votes on the ballot.
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fred79
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posted June 06, 2020 12:08 AM

Have you knelt before the rioters and looters yet, Blizz? Make sure you wear your prettiest skirt. They looooove themselves some submissive white boys.

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Salamandre
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posted June 06, 2020 12:18 AM

Skirt? with or without bra?
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fred79
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you don't have a BS sensor
posted June 06, 2020 01:15 AM

The correct term is "bro". Dudes wear a "bro". And, that's up to Blizz, unless he feels they should choose his attire as well.

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Salamandre
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posted June 06, 2020 01:22 AM

Well, dudes. But we talk about Blizz here

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blob2
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posted June 06, 2020 01:34 AM

I just don't understand why I should feel ashamed I'm white.

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posted June 06, 2020 02:06 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 02:13, 06 Jun 2020.

I haven't worn a skirt and bra in public since I was a senior in high school. It was for humor at the time and in retrospect pretty insensitive to trans people and their struggles.

Also I'm Roman Catholic now so I dont cross-dress, fornicate, watch porn, masturbate, etc.
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posted June 06, 2020 02:28 AM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 02:30, 06 Jun 2020.

blob2 said:
I just don't understand why I should feel ashamed I'm white.


That has nothing to do with anything.
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tSar-Ivor
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posted June 06, 2020 06:35 AM
Edited by tSar-Ivor at 07:09, 06 Jun 2020.

Well a pretty fair form of measurement is the bereaved's weight in gold (market value from the day the case is brought forward).
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Baronus
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posted June 06, 2020 10:37 AM

Now we have colored privilege. Hordes of colored barbarians leaded by Soros and other satanists run for latin West and destroyed all on his road. All human civilisation. Only real world civilisation is latin.

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Salamandre
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posted June 06, 2020 11:11 AM

White privilege.

In France all suburbs, 90% populated by African immigrants, have a rate of 35% unemployment. Is a privilege for whites so subsidize continuous welfare for those brave citizens.

Who burned down their own town, cars, markets, business, schools and hospitals, so every business owner just flew away in despair, therefore the lack of opportunities. But yet have no choice but remain in those areas they fully destroyed because there are the social housing, 80% state subsidized.

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blob2
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posted June 06, 2020 11:11 AM

Blizzardboy said:
blob2 said:
I just don't understand why I should feel ashamed I'm white.


That has nothing to do with anything.


This is how brainwashed you people are: https://twitter.com/i/status/1267657673845075968


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Baronus
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posted June 06, 2020 12:22 PM
Edited by Baronus at 12:24, 06 Jun 2020.

Baronus

Peples have variuous lvls of development. One is simple primitive eg. tribals in bushes second very high eg. latin West. And this CANNOT BE MIXED because in result we have collapse and barbarisations. Simple people should cultivate his simple culture and its ok. But high civilised sholud make his own higher! Smaller civilisations can learn something from the upper and implement to make his own higher. Thats natural and all people have maximum development! Mixing all is victim aggainst humanity.
Something to read:
Feliks Koneczny
His orginal work pdf:
On the pluratity of civilisations
Orignal words always are better than description made by another author.

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