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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted January 15, 2022 10:49 PM

Dark elves AND spiders?  Dark times indeed
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Narwen
Narwen

Tavern Dweller
Heroes III: DoR representative
posted January 17, 2022 12:59 PM

Hi there everyone,

Thanks to all at HC and across the wider Heroes community for the very kind feedback towards the first short teaser for Heroes III: Day of Reckoning. It's been great to see the excitement and speculation in different places at this very early stage.

As you can probably tell, this was nothing but a humble, work-in-progress showcase we put together to introduce ourselves over the holidays. A fuller presentation will follow in due course. If you're impressed already, be sure to stay tuned, as we have plenty of material cooking yet for this project - and further content will hopefully continue to intrigue. You ain't seen nothing yet .

We're working hard, and are still some time away from a more comprehensive reveal, but as thanks to you all for the warm reception to our efforts, I'd like to shed some early light on perhaps the most enigmatic (and, ironically... the most cold) of the new races you'll be sure to encounter when you revisit Antagarich in DoR.

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The Snow Elves and High Elves of Vori



Many players will recall Gelu, the half-human, half-Snow Elf protagonist of Heroes III: Armageddon's Blade and subsequent campaigns. With the exception of Gelu himself, and a somewhat hampered and nebulous presence in Heroes Chronicles: The Sword of Frost (in which they are represented by the Rampart faction), the Snow Elves have been repeatedly heard of but not seen in the world of Enroth. DoR will finally shift the spotlight towards this mysterious, isolationist race for the first time.

According to Heroes lore, the Snow Elves are the ancestors of the Wood Elves of AvLee (Rampart), dwelling in deliberate and zealously defended seclusion upon the magically frozen elven homeland of Vori, due northwest of the continent of Antagarich. Centuries of tension and philosophical divergence between these Elven societies attest for us that the Snow Elves are best represented as an individual faction, one you will discover for yourselves in the mod.

The Snow Elf of DoR derives inspiration from the most classical real-world concept of an Elf - the Norse Ljosalfar (Light Elves), semi-angelic beings who dwell in a realm likened to heaven. We feel that this mythological rooting and contextualisation is key to an authentic Heroes creature. In this way, the Snow Elves are both literally and mythologically positioned as the forefathers of all other Elves; effectively "one-upping" their Wood Elven descendants, who owe much to Tolkien's interpretation of the Norse myths.

Snow Elven society orients itself around worship of the long-silent Ancients, and grandiose manipulations of time, destiny, and mortality. Ostensibly the favoured chosen ones of the gods, they defend their homeland with all their worth at the direction of the higher powers' representatives on Enroth. In exchange, they are blessed with exceptional powers... and significant responsibilities. This paradigm will be explored in greater detail via future updates.

Gameplay-wise, the Snow Elves are tactically robust. Wielding an oracular crystal ball (New World Computing's writings state that the elven race originally invented these magical tools to rebuke invading armies), the basic Snow Elf can not only initiate their own ranged attacks, but retaliate against ranged enemy strikes. Its upgrade, the most noble and decorated High Elf, influences the speed of all adjacent creatures.

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"If a human watched the dance of the elves, he would discover that even though only a few hours seemed to have passed, many years had passed in the real world. Humans being invited or lured to the elf dance is a common motif transferred from older Scandinavian ballads."


Snow Elves are, appropriately as ever, born with characteristic blanched, snow white skin - a motif commonly encountered in snow- and ice-oriented myths and tales, the character of the White Witch from The Chronicles of Narnia serving as one prominent example.

Continuing some of the Heroes games' running parallels with Tolkien's Legendarium, the Snow Elf / Wood Elf / Dark Elf trinity might be likened to the dynamics of the Vanyar, Noldor, and Teleri respectively. Like the Vanyar, the Snow Elves harbour far stronger devotion - and benefit from a far closer connection - to the cosmic powers that be (the Ancients), compared both to their "renegade" Elven brethren and any of the other races Antagarich hosts.

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Opera
Opera


Adventuring Hero
posted January 17, 2022 01:27 PM

WoW Amazing Model ! Looking very good. Cant wait to see more stuff and of corse more stuff from Forge itself ^^

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


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DoR Dev Team
posted January 17, 2022 02:31 PM

I think that the "Grand Elf" is meant to mean "High Elf". I suggest you guys find an alternative name for Snow Elf upgrade.

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LordInsane
LordInsane


Known Hero
posted January 17, 2022 03:32 PM
Edited by LordInsane at 15:33, 17 Jan 2022.

While drawing from a similar meaning, "Grand Elf" was written by Anglophones who would be well aware of "High Elf" as a term, so it seems very likely they deliberately choose Grand Elf instead of High Elf rather than picking the first with the intended meaning of the second.
Having said that, Might and Magic VIII does use "Light Elven" in explicit contrast to "Dark Elven" in the Glomenmail description.

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LizardWarrior
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Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted January 17, 2022 07:25 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 19:39, 17 Jan 2022.

gg wp
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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted January 17, 2022 11:03 PM

Super cool!

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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted January 17, 2022 11:40 PM

KUDOS!
i was curios how you make it work, and i am happy i saw it!
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assryn
assryn


Adventuring Hero
posted January 19, 2022 10:09 PM
Edited by assryn at 22:47, 19 Jan 2022.

This snow elf and high elf look absolutely regal, I'm trully stunned, they're gorgeous <3 congratulations on making them !

If the name High Elf is an issue with Rampart's Grand Elf, you can always use Pureblood in some form, the Vori do call themselves that, being closest to how the Ancients intended elves to be.

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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted January 20, 2022 09:05 AM

maybe we will find out that the aincents as well as the kreegans are actually kind of elves too..;
and the rest are mutations.,.
now i know , you;d think its all not cannon... but i really really try hard and believe that H4 , H5,H6, H7, MM9 never actually happend and its a bad bad dream with evil ubifart.
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VMaiko
VMaiko


Known Hero
posted January 22, 2022 01:52 AM

DoR is my hope because I might be able to play HotA without the horrible balance proposed by users and HotA crew. It will be like "Horn of the Abyss but with balance proposal original of NWC".

DoR will be a highly modifiable modding platform, so all the proposals in the "Ideas and Suggestions" thread, can be easily added by users to suit their balance standards and you might as well forget about using the thread"How to Edit HotA" when DoR is released.

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Supreme Hero
posted January 22, 2022 11:35 AM

I think it's a promising project, very existed to so see what you guys have planned for the future. I must say I'm especially happy to see a creature that's capable of choosing which spells it can cast, it's a feature that I've always missed in the original game/Hota.

Anyway, couple of questions, if I may:

1) How many people are participating of making this mod currently speaking?
2) How would you guys want to describe this mod? (ie what's the main focus/goals/audience etc.)
3) Will there be any attempts or such of making the game balanced, or will it be strictly about new content?

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted January 22, 2022 01:36 PM

1) There's plenty of people participating in the development at this moment.
2) One way to describe it would be an expansion fully faithful to the world created by NWC; it is not the full answer, but it suffices for now, we don't want to go all-out yet. Though the audience is everyone.
3) There will definitely be balancing options. You might remember that I always was an adept of a balanced game.
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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Modding the Unmoddable
posted January 22, 2022 06:07 PM

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but i really really try hard and believe that H4 , H5,H6, H7, MM9 never actually happend and its a bad bad dream with evil ubi


Ubisoft didn't have a hand in H4 *at all*, it's all NWC original. And it's much better now with mods.

And H5, H6 and H7 aren't even in the same universe so they aren't "canon" to the NWC HoMM world.
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planetavril
planetavril


Famous Hero
posted January 22, 2022 06:26 PM
Edited by planetavril at 18:28, 22 Jan 2022.

The modders what will be able to add and/or modify with the DoR platform?

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shev441
shev441


Adventuring Hero
posted January 22, 2022 07:07 PM

interesting project, seems like it took a lot of work from you guys so thanks for developing H3 after all thouse years. I like that it is going to based on H3 complate instead of some weird ERA subengine.
Mod seems to be massive in terms of content, not only new vori town but also I have seen some creatures from Forge and different VCMI mods. Line up of new faction also seems to be too visualy similar - all units are white. Some more variety. Im afraid that big amount of new stuff might come with lower quality. Lots of new objects/ice mountains seems blurry and blend to much into background (ice redwood onservatory).  Maybe it would be better idea to produce mod with less conent but with better qualtity?
On plus side some of the units look good (model of ice elf form post above and new models of forge units on strategic map.
I look forward to this february trailer.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted January 22, 2022 07:16 PM

@planetavril

Anything in the flavor of the original game and much more would be my answer, as can be seen even in the teaser. It is not yet time to go into specifics such as "how?". A proper reveal of the modding capabilities will follow in due time.


@shev441

I'm glad you're excited for it! Yes, we know that some of the graphics are not up to par yet and we are constantly improving them; for example, the Snow and High Elf have already passed the full examination, and so will the other graphics (and ironically, what we have shown was the most WIP graphics, since we wanted to reveal something winter-themed). So don't worry about the quality levels.

About a so-called February "trailer", there will be none in February: the tease back in Christmas mentioned only a "small gift" after all. A post clarifying this misunderstanding might come soon.
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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted January 22, 2022 07:36 PM

do we have some kind of... date to expect the game at?
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted January 22, 2022 07:43 PM

I'll relay what I said once, on reddit:

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When it's done. I really cannot give or promise a release date, even if much of the asset-work is done (and that's much more than what is seen in this teaser, which does hint a bit of other things as well); after all, we can see the same issue of not respecting promised release dates, in the past and present of this community.


So sadly, even if we had some sort of release date or not, we cannot promise anything of sorts for the aforementioned reasons.
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antipaladin
antipaladin


Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted January 22, 2022 10:01 PM

I wouldn't dream of any collaboration with a small mod such as mine ...
https://discord.gg/YG9M6Thy

unfourntently I am not active in reddit.
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